Week 4 Test/EQ, opinion and concerns....

[High-Jacked]

I am on week 4 of 250mg Omnadren e3d, and 200mg QV Eq e3d, which is approximately 550mg test/450mg Eq ew. I really noticed nothing at all until week three, now my strength is begginning to increase and I can notice some more vascularity (small blue colored veins) on my quads,calves and trispossibly from the Eq? My weight has gone up a few pounds, but I definetly am experiencing some incredible pumps in the gym.

On this cycle should I just now be noticing strenght size gains or should I have noticed them sooner?

I am noticing some testicualr atrophy, I have 15,00 I.U's of HCG on hand. Please give me your opinion on running this mid and post cycle rather than just post cycle. I was planning on using 7,500 iu's mid and then 7500iu's post, how would I best go about doing this???? Should I just inject 1000iu's eod for 2 weeks then agian post cycle?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Hmmm... you should be noticing strength gains right about now. You are using slower esters. The pumps and viens are a good sign that the eq is kicking in. I noticed the same thing the first time I used eq. Was on 400 mg ew, so about the same dose and same timing. Personally I've never used hcg mid-cycle, any testicular atrophy I get lasts less than a week and my balls come back. On prop/tren/eq now and have a handful of balls, so really can't give good advice here. Theoretically you could do 2500 iu's eod for 3 injections to correct the problem mid-cycle. This was adviced to a friend of mine by his doctor in Houston who specializes in HRT and works with alot of atheletes and bodybuilders.

 

[jubei]

Everything sounds about right. Remeber to eat like your on death row.

 

[babbabuee]

high_jacked,
what kind of water retention/bloat are you experiencing? are you using any nolva/ldex/adex?

 

[canadianhitman]

Atrophy after only 4 weeks? That's unusual...are you sure it isn't imagined? I've run this same stack, but at slightly lower doses, and didn't sense any atrophy until after week 8. Since I was only going to run it for 12 weeks, I just waited til' the cycle was over to run HCG. Post-cycle is 500IU EOD for a couple of weeks. If you really are getting atrophy already, I think most bros run HCG 500mg sat/sunday on the weekends during cycles. do you have 1500IU, or did you mess up typing 15,000? I'd be reluctant to crack into a 15,000 IU vial for mid-cycle use, since you'd end up wasting most of it. I think it only keeps for a couple of weeks once you reconstitute it with water.

 

[High-Jacked]

I am just now experiencing strength gains in week 4. I look thicker and am starting to feel pumped all day long almost.

Maybe its not atrophy, but rather my balls for a lack-of-a-better-word are "riding high", my sac is shrivelled up like I am in ice cold water, but I guess my actual testicle size has not decreased to drastically. Maybe I will just wait till post cycle.

I am running 10-15mg Nolva ed to prevent gyno, but I am still getting some bloat. The bloat actually just started after week 3, could either be the gear starting to do its thing, or that fact that for the first 3 weeks I was eating less calories and hitting cardio 4 times a week for 25 minute sessions, no I am doing zero!

I have (3) 5000 iu "kits" so 15,000 iu's in total.

From mid week 2 to mid week 3 I switch from Omna's to ICN's. My sex drive seemed to be a little lower and I felt less bloated than with the Oman amps, in that short of a time period that is most likely not a good judgement. I am nervous that I got a bad lot of the ICN's, the injections were completely painless, nothing at all???? I have 2 Oman amps left then I will be running ICN's for the last 4 weeks or so, so I will post how my results progress while on them.