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We don't need the 17aa orals!

Do we really need the 17aa orals?

  • YES and I like to use them

    Votes: 43 75.4%
  • NO, no need to at all

    Votes: 14 24.6%

  • Total voters
    57
  • Poll closed .
sk* said:


That's not true at all.

sk* IMO 30mg of dbol will give similar gains to 150mg of anadrol.. I am talking about "Realgains"(pardon the pun he he ) in muscle tissue. Anadrol will appear to get you bigger but I really believe that more of the gain is water. Have you ever noticed how much you loose in weight after going off Anadrol as opposed to dbol?
:) For sure 50 of dbol is equal to 150 of anadrol at least
 
Realgains said:


I don't know where you got this idea bro:(

D-bol is definately estrogenic and will cause gyno in those that will get gyno.

Anadrol is not estrogenic but is thought to probably be progestogenic. It may be an estrogen agonist. Anadrol will bloat you big time and some do get gyno from it too but not as easily as with d-bol.:)


Its called winstrol and anavar as i previously stated.
 
Realgains said:


sk* IMO 30mg of dbol will give similar gains to 150mg of anadrol.. I am talking about "Realgains"(pardon the pun he he ) in muscle tissue. Anadrol will appear to get you bigger but I really believe that more of the gain is water. Have you ever noticed how much you loose in weight after going off Anadrol as opposed to dbol?
:) For sure 50 of dbol is equal to 150 of anadrol at least
50 dbol or 30mg?
 
Punschkrapfen said:

17aa is only to get the steroid molecules through the liver first pass unharmed. Gyno is caused through actions of the steroid itself like through aromatization. How it got into the bloodstream - injected or digested - is irrelevant.


No fuckin shit. God Dammit use you fucking brain and figure why the in the FUCK gyno prone individuals use winstrol.
 
Mike001
Please be so kind as to point out my mistake as I do not believe I made any ...yet:)

Bro where did I say that winny doesn't go through the liver when injected. :( All through my posts I was referring to why we do not need to use 17aa orals. All steroids go through the liver at some time....it is a part of the detoxification process as they all get into the blood stream and all blood goes through the liver.:)

I can't believe I am getting bashed:( But bring it on dudes he he he I love this board too:smash: :wavey:
 
Realgains said:
Mike001
Please be so kind as to point out my mistake as I do not believe I made any ...yet:)

Bro where did I say that winny doesn't go through the liver when injected. :( All through my posts I was referring to why we do not need to use 17aa orals. All steroids go through the liver at some time....it is a part of the detoxification process as they all get into the blood stream and all blood goes through the liver.:)

I can't believe I am getting bashed:( But bring it on dudes he he he I love this board too:smash: :wavey:
can you see i edited it as soon as i re-read it sir. thank you
 
Mike001

I personally believe that 30 of dbol taken in 4-5 divided doses will give equal realgains in muscle tissue to 150mg of anadrol...remember I am taking about real muscle and not just water weight.... PERHAPS this could be stretched to 50 mg...I was just trying to be less dogmatic bro...heck I never claimed to be a guru.....just sharring my experience and knowledge:)

BTW Guru Bill Llewellyn agrees with me on this HELLO BILL are you out there?:( :) :rolleyes:
 
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