we are hated

[strongchick]

I am watching 60 minutes...and someone I respect is doing the interviews....Christiane Amanpour.

She asked 'rich', educated, college Pakistani students a few questions. They said they have a soft spot for bin Laden...while they do not support his extremism, they do feel the anger bin Laden feels and kind of admire him for taking action.

Again, they do NOT support terrorism. They want to come to America to study and advance their lives and the lives of their people.

But like they say, we have ignored the plight of Muslims around the world, using them and leaving them with the aftermath of wars fought on their land.

It hurts me deeply to know that many of the people I have worked with, laughed with, etc., have been feeling this way.

We are hated for good reason, not because we are rich and better off..

..we are hated because we have not lived up to our promises.

These are the seeds of a long, protracted, ineffective war on terrorism.

 

[Kahn]

yeah, the warm fuzzy feeling of reaping the benefits of our country disappear when they go home and we don;'t do more for them doesn't it? Piss on them. Next time do it without the US

 

[satanic goatslayer]

I don't burn pakis because the curry stench is unbearable.

 

[spentagn]

Naw, having a government which prevents the furtherment of society and kills anyone who doesn't fall in line are the seeds of terrorism. Schools supporting Jihad, recruiting Muslims to "kill Americans" support this terrorism. We have no alternatives. The passivism expressed by past Presidents does not work, as many people (dems and repubs) are quick to point out.

 

[Fart Barker]

jealousy begets hatred

 

[Taps]

But why do they hate the US? I doubt China or Russia ever did much to help the muslim cause.

There has been war in the middle east for thousands of years. The US has only been involved there for what...the last 50 years or so?

I think they hate the US (and most western countries) because they _need_ to hate something. The US is just the most visable target.

 

[Gorlim]

strongchick most people here hate you too. Should we care? I'll answer that with do you care. You obviously dont because u keep posting dumb shit.

 

[Balls of Steel]

They say the have a soft spot for Bin Ladden?

Fucking pricks.

 

[strongchick]

http://www.madblast.com/oska/bin.cfm

u folks should get a kick out of this.

 

[Milhouse]

I am watching 60 minutes...and someone I respect is doing the interviews....Christiane Amanpour.

She asked 'rich', educated, college Pakistani students a few questions. They said they have a soft spot for bin Laden...while they do not support his extremism, they do feel the anger bin Laden feels and kind of admire him for taking action.

Again, they do NOT support terrorism. They want to come to America to study and advance their lives and the lives of their people.

But like they say, we have ignored the plight of Muslims around the world, using them and leaving them with the aftermath of wars fought on their land.

It hurts me deeply to know that many of the people I have worked with, laughed with, etc., have been feeling this way.



We are hated for good reason, not because we are rich and better off..

..we are hated because we have not lived up to our promises.

These are the seeds of a long, protracted, ineffective war on terrorism.

I think you have a deep down crush on Bin Laden. Maybe you should write him a letter professing you desire to tickle his turban. Possibly he will invite you back to his cave for a candlelight dinner date.

 

[strongchick]

Re: Re: we are hated

LOL. You will see the error of your ways, you freak!

 

[chesty]

I can't believe the stupidity that abounds between your ears. They have a soft spot for him? Please, what they are saying is we are chicken shits.

Why is the US responsible for the rest of the world? Last time I checked the US Constitution was all about America and her people, not the rest of the freakin world.

And what promises did we make to the rest of the world? We will give you unlimited funds to use as you see fit? God, the vacuum in your head must be a full one.

Amanpour, please, she is as liberal and ugly as she is stupid.

 

[OMEGA]

Strong CHick..............

let the sheep be sheep, let the hurd follow the hurders.

you speak truth, and that is a noble act, but you are agitating the sheep, that curse you for introducing thoughtfull commentary, on the situation.
Let them be sheep, and let them be comforatable in ignorance.

I however appreciate you.

you can email me if you like. I will give you an article that you could post on this site. its titled us foreign policy, and terrorism, written by a colleage of mine at a prestigiuos university, if 5 % of this article is right, than the sheep will be forced think about the situation, rather than curse you.

those fucking sheep, I used to want to help them, but they cursed me for doing so......now I am going to screw them and take advantage of them, and they will know nothing, they will probably kiss my ass, just like they kiss the ass of people that you and I despise.

fuck the sheep

write a response and we wil swap email addresses, you don't want to miss on this article, I guarantee it.

ps dont be offended my the petty remarks of sheep
they deserve the fate that is bestowed upon the ignorant

they wil remember people like you later in life, and wich too themselves that they heard your words
take care

 

[bill39pa]

Well, I agree to some extent. but I have a problem with them not liking us. First, they have been around a lot longer than the USA, but still live like they did 100 years ago. They want our education, money, sell us their products and envy our lifestyle. But, then admire Bin Ladden, burn our flag and think we should be destroyed ? I have a real good idea .....How 'bout we see if the Navy can set a new worlds record for emptying all the missle tubes on a nuke sub and turn that region into the worlds largest kitty litter box. Then, restock it with more rocks...something that has a higher IQ than the morons there now !

PS...$20 bucks the the first one that brings me Bin Ladden's head on a stick !

 

[rushx79]

Strong CHick..............

let the sheep be sheep, let the hurd follow the hurders.

you speak truth, and that is a noble act, but you are agitating the sheep, that curse you for introducing thoughtfull commentary, on the situation.
Let them be sheep, and let them be comforatable in ignorance.

I however appreciate you.

you can email me if you like. I will give you an article that you could post on this site. its titled us foreign policy, and terrorism, written by a colleage of mine at a prestigiuos university, if 5 % of this article is right, than the sheep will be forced think about the situation, rather than curse you.

those fucking sheep, I used to want to help them, but they cursed me for doing so......now I am going to screw them and take advantage of them, and they will know nothing, they will probably kiss my ass, just like they kiss the ass of people that you and I despise.

fuck the sheep

write a response and we wil swap email addresses, you don't want to miss on this article, I guarantee it.

ps dont be offended my the petty remarks of sheep
they deserve the fate that is bestowed upon the ignorant

they wil remember people like you later in life, and wich too themselves that they heard your words
take care

haha youre funny!! yes anyone that doesnt agree with YOUR political views are sheep. moron.

 

[MoneyBags]

who cares if they hate us? why should that have any impact on what we do?

 

[strongchick]

who cares if they hate us? why should that have any impact on what we do?

Because this war on terrorism will continue on and on and on.

You reap what you sow. We can't stop them from hating us...I realize. It is just so sad. It really frightens me and for the first time I realize that the US is not all powerful, and cannot protect us.

 

[MoneyBags]

i like the war on terrorism. let it go on and on until all terrorists are dead. id much rather have that than have to suck the dicks of scumbag pakistanis because we are afraid they may commit acts of terrorism against us.

the US is all powerful. we are fucking up those afghanis.

 

[DamnRedneck]

fuck the sheep

Damn, son, you sure you ain't a redneck just like me? If sheepfuckin's in your blood, then there is a hick insida you just waitin' to come out.

 

[spongebob]

Strong CHick..............

let the sheep be sheep, let the hurd follow the hurders.

you speak truth, and that is a noble act, but you are agitating the sheep, that curse you for introducing thoughtfull commentary, on the situation.
Let them be sheep, and let them be comforatable in ignorance.

I however appreciate you.

you can email me if you like. I will give you an article that you could post on this site. its titled us foreign policy, and terrorism, written by a colleage of mine at a prestigiuos university, if 5 % of this article is right, than the sheep will be forced think about the situation, rather than curse you.

those fucking sheep, I used to want to help them, but they cursed me for doing so......now I am going to screw them and take advantage of them, and they will know nothing, they will probably kiss my ass, just like they kiss the ass of people that you and I despise.

fuck the sheep

write a response and we wil swap email addresses, you don't want to miss on this article, I guarantee it.

ps dont be offended my the petty remarks of sheep
they deserve the fate that is bestowed upon the ignorant

they wil remember people like you later in life, and wich too themselves that they heard your words
take care

dude, will you just come out and tell her you want to get in her pants instead of talking all that babble to her. it sounds foolish.

 

[OMEGA]

No not really rushX69

people who do not share my views, are people with differing opinions, thats all.

But when someone of the "liberal" persuasion comes on to engage in dialogue they get cursed to kindgdom come.
thats unfair and un-democratic.

So if you want to discuss individual issues I am all for that.

You see the term "sheep" is relegated to those who have no critical thinking skills. sheep usually, when asked for their opion either say "ah i dunno", or they snap at you in the form of profanity, and other overt, overley gut driven remarks.

you catch my drift?

so if you or I have an opinoin lets share not swear.

 

[Balls of Steel]

Damn, son, you sure you ain't a redneck just like me? If sheepfuckin's in your blood, then there is a hick insida you just waitin' to come out.

LMAO!!!

 

[DamnRedneck]

Dammit Omega, you had me all excited and whutnot with that talk of fuckin' sheep!

Commie Bastard!

 

[kitKat]

Why is the US responsible for the rest of the world? Last time I checked the US Constitution was all about America and her people, not the rest of the freakin world.

Here Here!!

 

[OMEGA]

communist?????

where did that come from?

Ah I see.
its a tactic that conservative sheep use to conveniantly objectify, and categorize, and differing opinion then their own, into a neatly packed ideological hay stack for other sheep to eat....
now I got it!

thanks, dude!

by the way I am twenty two and I know hundreds like me,, we are the future guys, so fear us for we have knowlege to share.

 

[DamnRedneck]

communist?????

where did that come from?

Ah I see.
its a tactic that conservative sheep use to conveniantly objectify, and categorize, and differing opinion then their own, into a neatly packed ideological hay stack for other sheep to eat....
now I got it!

Look here fella, you ain't gotta clue about them sheep. They ain't particularly fond of haystacks. They prefer grassy fields and that kinda shit, you know whut I mean? Here's a hint - if you are gonna fuck a sheep, like you was claiming way up on the post, get 'em by the cliffs. They'll back up, and you can just act like they are enjoyin' it. You're welcome in advance.


thanks, dude!
by the way I am twenty two and I know hundreds like me,, we are the future guys, so fear us for we have knowlege to share.

Well, I am a redneck, 21, and I know a bunch of shitkickin' bastards like myself spread out all over the place. Feedin' your ass WILL NOT be my priority. Got it there, little fella?

 

[spongebob]

No not really rushX69

people who do not share my views, are people with differing opinions, thats all.

But when someone of the "liberal" persuasion comes on to engage in dialogue they get cursed to kindgdom come.
thats unfair and un-democratic.

So if you want to discuss individual issues I am all for that.

You see the term "sheep" is relegated to those who have no critical thinking skills. sheep usually, when asked for their opion either say "ah i dunno", or they snap at you in the form of profanity, and other overt, overley gut driven remarks.

you catch my drift?

so if you or I have an opinoin lets share not swear.

why dont you try doing a search on strongchick and see where the name calling started before you start calling someone sheep. your actions are exactly what you despise.

 

[OMEGA]

You got a good sense of humor dude!


tarnations, beesies callen e' gain, got service dem darn sheeps an' all.

Serious though

no matter what ideological persuasion you come from.
we all have a common sesse of justice, sheep or not.

 

[spongebob]

You got a good sense of humor dude!


tarnations, beesies callen e' gain, got service dem darn sheeps an' all.

Serious though

if any would like a copy of an essay written about US foreing policy, that is laden with irrefutable facts about the situation I would be more than happy to email a copy.

this article would of interest no matter what ideological persuasion you come from.
we all have a common sesse of justice, sheep or not, so this article should be of interest

cant you post it.

 

[MoneyBags]

communist?????

where did that come from?

Ah I see.
its a tactic that conservative sheep use to conveniantly objectify, and categorize, and differing opinion then their own, into a neatly packed ideological hay stack for other sheep to eat....
now I got it!

thanks, dude!

by the way I am twenty two and I know hundreds like me,, we are the future guys, so fear us for we have knowlege to share.

look in the mirror kid. you are ugly. you are stupid. you are a pathetic idealist. do you really think that someone like you could be the future when there is someone like me on this planet? i win every single time.

 

[OMEGA]

I wish I could post it, but I don't have the techno
give your email address and I will mail it too you.

send a private message via elite private mail.

 

[dballer]

who cares if they hate us? why should that have any impact on what we do?

They hate us. Do they? They burn our flag. Cheer at our deaths. Fly airplanes into public building in our country.

They hate us. Do you think? Do you care? I don't. They will be a memory soon.

This whole situation has gone too far. I am not talking about the muslims, I am talking about the American sympathy for these terrorist assholes. I believe it is high time we as American people take the ideals that made this country great.... back to life.

The days of me spending my money on non-domestic products is over. I suggest that all of you who feel the same way as I do follow this example.. that is if you are not yet doing so. This means clothing, stores, dining... whatever it may be. Our country needs OUR support. Not our ridicule. Excuse my language... but FUCK YOU if you do not support this country. I work to hard to see MY tax dollars pissed away for foreign aid. I want American aid. I care about what these American haters think of us as much as the pilot who flew into the WTC thought about American lives.

If you are not with US.... you are Against US!!!

 

[OMEGA]

?

 

[OMEGA]

I understand

 

[Gorlim]

Omega's probably strongchick on another name or sadly they're is someone as dumb if not dumber then strongchick .

 

[OMEGA]

OMEGA

 

[HighIntensity]

we are strong, thus we are hated

 

[WODIN]

But like they say, we have ignored the plight of Muslims around the world, using them and leaving them with the aftermath of wars fought on their land.

All right now.... this part of the "victim" role this people are trying to play up is total bullshit. You as an individual and they as individuals have just as much choice in turnnig away from violence as any human being has on this planet. No one forced anyone in afghanistan to pick up a gun and start fighting.

And don't give me that what if it were here bullshit, yes I would fight for my country in a heart beat but that is my choice and I don't need some poor me bullshit, drama loving, fools saying I am a victime of anything.

 

[cm3504jm]

Omega is just another Ryan H, trying to inflame on purpose.

Once again, the spin falls off those with simple common sense.

 

[Kahn]

oh shit, not anothrer one

I'm glad cm3504jm(what's that mean?) and moneybags caught this ryanh bullshit. Its the same crap I jumped ryans ass for yeesterday. I remember when I thought not using profanity put you a step up(about age 21-22 like them). Now I am just sick of the same small minds grabbing onto the first piece of an issue that they understand and babbling before they get the whole story. You arrogant little fuck, calling us sheep. You'd like to believe you are intelligent? There are more people that dwarf me intellectually here than I'd like to admit. Judge me by my language? Suck my dick, kiddie. You probably spell check to look more intelligent, don't you. Well kiddie, it won't catch the difference between then and than, which you misused. There was another one you misused but I won't go back and look. Is all this shit sinking in yet? Shut the fuck up, kiddie. Your young arrogant ass pisses me off because of my humility punching me in the face. I have to face, once again, I was a stupid fucker then, like you are now. Like I was told too many times, its better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt. Take heed fuckface, I wish I did. Trying to impress the ladies on the net is done the same way its done in person, with sincerety, not bullshit. Women are smarter and more independent nowadays and they will toss your punk ass overboard in a heartbeat. (wow, cool vent, huh?)hehehe

 

[OMEGA]

If any one would like an article that de lineates american foreign policy, overt and covert actions, I will email it too you, just send a private message with your email address.

whatever your ideological disposition, this is a must read.

both conservatives and liberals, will find it interesting.

Just ask and I will give it too you.

lets learn together, and try to share, not scare each other.

 

[strongchick]

The days of me spending my money on non-domestic products is over.

How will you be able to tell which products are foreign vs. domestic? Many products aren't made in the USA, although they are sold by US companies.

 

[Gorlim]

thats why the products say made in the usa, or made in china and so on, idiot.

 

[strongchick]

thats why the products say made in the usa, or made in china and so on, idiot.

um, so every part in say, a Pioneer DVD player was made in the USA, right?

Don't be so naive.

We are in a global economy. If you think we are not interdependent, you need to go back to school yourself.

 

[rushx79]

strongchick, i believe he is talking about products primarily or partly manufactured in the u.s.. yes, some if not all of the parts may come from another country, but americans still assemble the final product. thus the phrase made in america, smartass.

 

[OMEGA]

bump for the social democrats out in the world

 

[OMEGA]

one last bump

 

[gymnpoppa]

A great deal of our "American products" are made in other countries. Example, My Harley-Davidson Jacket has a tag on it
Made In the Usa. However, an accidental discovery of a second tag, said Made in Taiwan. As is the majority of Harley-D merchandise. Imagine my shock. So, wake up, domestic, is still probably imported.

 

[OMEGA]

NICE HARLEY!

one last bump for the progressives

 

[FrankRizzo]

Strongchick - we are not obligated to help anyone else with anything. If you feel such a strong obligation to help these people then take your obviously brilliant self and form an organization to help them through a private medium and membership. But NO, in true liberal fashion you would FORCE all others to take the same action you would choose to take, and have the whole nation acting on your beliefs. Pass it into law right? Hell yes! make more policy, tax more and hire on more bureaucrats to impliment your social agenda.

If you want to act so righteous accomplish all the "obligatins" then make it happen yourself with your other liberal friends. Don't obligate ME into anything.

As for purchasing non domestic goods, man, keep doing it!! We white boys are very enterprising and wish to run our own corporations some day. Buy purchasing these products being manufactured by exploiting 3rd world people getting paid next to nothing for labor we can keep them in this socio-economic state and keep the cheap labor markets alive for when it becomes our turn to "use" them. (this is what you EXPECTED to hear, isn't it??)

 

[strongchick]

As for purchasing non domestic goods, man, keep doing it!! We white boys

blah blah blah

. (this is what you EXPECTED to hear, isn't it??)

No. I was just kidding. Some of my best friends are white boys.

heehee.

No, I hate everybody equally. I've said this before. There are Black men that get on my nerves too.

Usually, white men are in a position to hire me.

A more tactful, diplomatic thing to say is that

I have fully assimilated the majority culture so as to achieve success in my career.

I truly didn't mean offense...sometimes I fall into the same ways of communicating as some of these folks that post here.

Such as:

"kill every towel head"
"beat down Muslims"
"take everything those stupid fuckers have"
"they should be glad we drop food on their dumb poor asses"

etc.

I know my 'whitey' comment is much worse than those. <g>

But seriously...I have love for everyone who loves me. I return respect the same. Don't think I'm just out here spewing racial epithets. I am what you are, just as you are what I am (DNA-wise, at least)

 

[spongebob]

A great deal of our "American products" are made in other countries. Example, My Harley-Davidson Jacket has a tag on it
Made In the Usa. However, an accidental discovery of a second tag, said Made in Taiwan. As is the majority of Harley-D merchandise. Imagine my shock. So, wake up, domestic, is still probably imported.

you know what pissed me off one day. i had a car alarm for a yr. or so and one day i noticed the sticker that said "made in america" on it was peeling up, i pele it ff completely and under that sticker was another one that said "made in taiwan", i was pissed just for the fact that they tried to do that shit.

 

[OMEGA]

only 10 people have asked for a copy of what I had to offer..


come on don't be afraid of the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DamnRedneck]

tarnations, beesies callen e' gain, got service dem darn sheeps an' all.

GODAMMIT, KEEP BESSIE OUTTA THIS!!!

Bessie is mine, you cotton pickin' fool.

 

[gymnpoppa]

only 10 people have asked for a copy of what I had to offer..


come on don't be afraid of the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You sound shocked........I'm not. Sheep are led by whoever produces the inferior attitude that feels good. Be they liberal, or conservative.

 

[OMEGA]

SO true so true.

I used to think that we all had the propensity to learn and collect and interpret knowledge........

I used to think that "elite ists" were assholes for saying that most people are sheep.

But increasingly as I age I realize that this startiling concept indeed may be true.

Albert Einstein said that "Few are the people who see with there own eyes".......
and I guess this is true.

So "see ers" in essence have 2 choices. use that ability to help people or use it to take advantage of them.

When a beneficent "see er" try to help the people then gets attacked, it makes it hard for them to not want to take advantage of them.

I'm, too young (22) to be thinking like this.
If we all realized that .......oh fuck never mind

 

[Sushi X]

how is taking away my rights and making pay higher taxes for things i'll never get to use like welfare, free/inexpensive healthcare, and so on.

you can call conservatives sheep, maybe cause we have a shephard, libs are like lambs being lead to the slaughter cause they follow mindless hypocrits.

sa for me i see things for what they are, all the high taxation is nothing more than the fleecing of america and neither side is doing anything about it. i am still an advocate of a ten percent flat tax rate across the board. it's only fair.

 

[OMEGA]

sushi I totally agree with flat tax.

but the same right wing or corporate wing whatever you call it, does not favor that, at it's highest levels I mean. to them you are a radical

You speak of well fare?

the largest wellfare recepients in the UNITES STATES, are corporations. And when they recieve money from us, the tax payer because they have a hierachical structure, most of that money goes to managment and CEO's
and the like. not workers

question, whatever happened to the " us worker" that works more than any other person in the industrial world!

Workers are the ones that create wealth to begin with, not ceo's or managment that have a gene in a bottle that gives them secrets to run a corporation.

the truth is is that corportions, big corporations I mean, are the ones who recieve the most wellfare, and guess who suffers pal.

medium and small sized businesses, and workers, you and me. and if this reality does not chime with you, then, I have no purpose.

I am not a flaming liberal, I am reasonable.

please reply.

 

[OMEGA]

bimp

 

[Stillhere]

These people hate us yet they have a burning desire to come here and educate themselves to build weapons of destruction to kill the very same hand that nurtured them and gave them a chance, a chance that not even their own country could provide.
I understand now, we are so unfair!

 

[Stillhere]

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Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TxCollegeguy]

Fuck Pakistan, I wish they shit on us so we would let india go in and kick their muslim asses


Educated Pakistanis???not to many of those left. It's kinda funny that they blame us for doing so little to help the muslims there, but What the fuck do you call aiding them for Generations during the cold war, We just forgave over 35 billion in debt that those fuckers would never be able to repay

AND if this didn't piss me off enough Where is their blame for all those Rich sons of bitches in those countries who dont do SHIT to help the "MUSLIMS" in the middle east. Talk about a Gross misrepresentation of the facts. Those Rich fuckers there created this problem and only added to it by Blamming the Jews and the west for their plight while they continued to get rich over the years

Fuck those people and their Cause and Fuck their So called beliefs if they truly feel we are to blame. We gave Pakistan BILLIONS over the years only for the "Educated" to squander it and not do shit to help themselves. Those fuckers need to look a little closer to home before they blame us. I swear to GOD ALMIGHTY that I hope India Crushes them once the Paki General is overthrown. The sad thing is he probably was their best chance at any hope of rebuilding.

I urge all of you to write your Reps in DC to tell them stop ANY FUTURE AID TO Pakistan. Those fuckers were harboring Terrorists for years and Pakistan people make up the Majority of the Taliban. For 50 years they have pushed India time and time again over Kashmere(SP?) and we did jack shit. At least Russia has and continues to support India and if and probably once India Invades Russia will be by their side...NOW Will we???If not I sure as hell hope we dont back Pakistan

It's rather said to think that those fuckers historically made Educational achievements for the world and more importantly helped our country develop better Nukes and Weapon capabilities.

If anyone doesn't understand why I'm pissed off about this just try reading any online news publication in Pakistan and India

 

[gymnpoppa]

Fuck Pakistan, I wish they shit on us so we would let india go in and kick their muslim asses


Educated Pakistanis???not to many of those left. It's kinda funny that they blame us for doing so little to help the muslims there,

Fuck those people and their Cause and Fuck their So called beliefs if they truly feel we are to blame. We gave Pakistan BILLIONS over the years only for the "Educated" to squander it and not do shit to help themselves. Those fuckers need to look a little closer to home before they blame us. I swear to GOD ALMIGHTY that I hope India Crushes them once the Paki General is overthrown. The sad thing is he probably was their best chance at any hope of rebuilding.

I urge all of you to write your Reps in DC to tell them stop ANY FUTURE AID TO Pakistan. Those fuckers were harboring Terrorists for years and Pakistan people make up the Majority of the Taliban. For 50 years they have pushed India time and time again over Kashmere(SP?) and we did jack shit. At least Russia has and continues to support India and if and probably once India Invades Russia will be by their side...NOW Will we???If not I sure as hell hope we dont back Pakistan

It's rather said to think that those fuckers historically made Educational achievements for the world and more importantly helped our country develop better Nukes and Weapon capabilities.

If anyone doesn't understand why I'm pissed off about this just try reading any online news publication in Pakistan and India

Tx, not to dispute what you said, but why even bother? We should just get out. Nobody likes the Muslims, Pakistani's, Indians, Iranians, Saudi's, but nobody is in favor of us getting the hell out of the area. Why? Greed, plain, and simple. It's so OBVIOUS that the people don't want us there. Whatever role we're claiming to play, just get out. Find bin LOOP, put him in prison for life, and get the fuck out. No more aid, no more weapon sales, no more training, no military training.....no more Arabs coming over here for flight school. End this shit.

 

[spongebob]

the largest wellfare recepients in the UNITES STATES, are corporations. And when they recieve money from us, the tax payer because they have a hierachical structure, most of that money goes to managment and CEO's
and the like. not workers

question, whatever happened to the " us worker" that works more than any other person in the industrial world!

Workers are the ones that create wealth to begin with, not ceo's or managment that have a gene in a bottle that gives them secrets to run a corporation.

please reply.

1. corporations recieve tax breaks, it is not welfare, they are not given money to operate. the term coporate welfare was coined by the liberals i think when republicans were threatening the welfare system, so in return the liberals wanted to point out the "injustice" of it. i guess you fell into the herd.

2. what US worker are you talking about, how long have you been in the workforce, shit theres some lazy ass mofo's out there.

3. people who invest money and take risk create wealth and opportunity. IMO bill gates deserves every nickel he has. the name of the game is capitalism.

4. im sure when you finish college you'll obtain emlpoyment on the management side and fall right in line, it happens everytime.

 

[TxCollegeguy]

India is someone I feel we can do business with. The only problem is that they wont cave in to what our Govt has wanted from them. That is why Russia was always on friendly terms with them. Russia couldn't get their troops in force their but were able to set up Trade with India

India has it's crazy groups as well but they offer more cause the overwhelming majority of the people think with a business mindset. Not comparable to the mindset of Business here in the States but def something we can work with.

I'm now bias on this issue strictly because I have an Aunt who is from India. Grant it she wouldn't live back there ever again but she has over the past 6 years offered insight into the culture and people that I never hear about from people from india I grew up around.

For the most part yeah I think we should get the hell out in general but I dont think that will be possible.

We didn't pay those people any attention they continued to remain poor while the overwhelming majority remained rich. Money has the big role to play here and we

India would embrace a better realtionship with us. Trade between our countries has possibilities that can't even be dreamed of

 

[gymnpoppa]

1. corporations recieve tax breaks, it is not welfare, they are not given money to operate. the term coporate welfare was coined by the liberals i think when republicans were threatening the welfare system, so in return the liberals wanted to point out the "injustice" of it. i guess you fell into the herd.


3. people who invest money and take risk create wealth and opportunity. IMO bill gates deserves every nickel he has. the name of the game is capitalism.

4. im sure when you finish college you'll obtain emlpoyment on the management side and fall right in line, it happens everytime.

Okay, I disagree, big corporations should not get tax breaks...why? The tax rate should be higher for those who have made billions, instead of less.......and I see where they keep throwing crumbs to the small biz (such as mine), and huge benefits to those who fill their campaign coffers. That is bullshit. That is greed plain and simple. Keeping the field tilted in their favor. I know the refrain, it's the American way. It's capitalism. Whatever. I don't believe in sucking up to a lying politician to keep minimum wage down for those who work for me, or other measures used to keep the majority down. That is fucked up mentality.

The bill they just passed today, favored the wealthy, yet they keep asking the majority to keep American rolling. The wealthy have their private planes, but the avg joe (most of us) has to get on a plane, which they cannot pass a security bill on. Is anybody paying attention? This isn't some political tilted propaganda, its the current movement in D C. We can't get a leadership message to admit glaring holes in our medical response to the anthrax threat, but a bill is on the table for a 5k annual pay raise for congressmen, and senators.

 

[spongebob]

Okay, I disagree, big corporations should not get tax breaks...why? The tax rate should be higher for those who have made billions, instead of less.......and I see where they keep throwing crumbs to the small biz (such as mine), and huge benefits to those who fill their campaign coffers. That is bullshit. That is greed plain and simple. Keeping the field tilted in their favor. I know the refrain, it's the American way. It's capitalism. Whatever. I don't believe in sucking up to a lying politician to keep minimum wage down for those who work for me, or other measures used to keep the majority down. That is fucked up mentality.

The bill they just passed today, favored the wealthy, yet they keep asking the majority to keep American rolling. The wealthy have their private planes, but the avg joe (most of us) has to get on a plane, which they cannot pass a security bill on. Is anybody paying attention? This isn't some political tilted propaganda, its the current movement in D C. We can't get a leadership message to admit glaring holes in our medical response to the anthrax threat, but a bill is on the table for a 5k annual pay raise for congressmen, and senators.

i hope you didn't throw bad karma my way..he..he i dont believe big businesses should get the tax breaks they get, i was just pointing out to OMEGA that its not welfare, its tax breaks. i think small businesses should pay less taxes than larger businesses. we shouldn't even call it a tax break. we should just call it thier "tax rate".

 

[strongchick]

i hope you didn't throw bad karma my way..he..he i dont believe big businesses should get the tax breaks they get, i was just pointing out to OMEGA that its not welfare, its tax breaks. i think small businesses should pay less taxes than larger businesses. we shouldn't even call it a tax break. we should just call it thier "tax rate".

Please explain why the billions given to the aviation industry is not welfare. Not being an asshole...I just want to understand.

 

[gymnpoppa]

i hope you didn't throw bad karma my way..he..he i dont believe big businesses should get the tax breaks they get, i was just pointing out to OMEGA that its not welfare, its tax breaks. i think small businesses should pay less taxes than larger businesses. we shouldn't even call it a tax break. we should just call it thier "tax rate".

Not at all, I kicked ya some good karma.....I respect the good, levelheaded, points you bring to my attention. I'm bothered by the in bed mentality of the government with those big biz.....(oil comps, munitions corps, etc. That is the biggest danger to the
American people. It is nowhere close to a democracy. I'd love for a good, honest, independent candidate to run. I'd vote for them, but who could you trust? Jesse Ventura.

I remember Bush saying a few weeks ago, he wasn't going to drop a million dollar bomb on a 4$ tent, well, it appears that is what's happening. A lot of them. I'm assuming he's trying to avoid casualties, but we haven't learned a thing from the cruise missile (Clinton), we are just doing it up close now.

 

[spongebob]

Please explain why the billions given to the aviation industry is not welfare. Not being an asshole...I just want to understand.

call it welfare, call it a bailout, call it whatever, i dont agree with giving them that money. my company just recently filed for bankruptcy and nobody will help them. and i dont think they should. if you cant run a business then get out. the airlines industry was in trouble before 9-11. due to fierce competetion they run thierselves into the ground(no pun intended). the number of flights in this country is rediculous.

 

[spongebob]

Not at all, I kicked ya some good karma.....I respect the good, levelheaded, points you bring to my attention. I'm bothered by the in bed mentality of the government with those big biz.....(oil comps, munitions corps, etc. That is the biggest danger to the
American people. It is nowhere close to a democracy. I'd love for a good, honest, independent candidate to run. I'd vote for them, but who could you trust? Jesse Ventura.

I remember Bush saying a few weeks ago, he wasn't going to drop a million dollar bomb on a 4$ tent, well, it appears that is what's happening. A lot of them. I'm assuming he's trying to avoid casualties, but we haven't learned a thing from the cruise missile (Clinton), we are just doing it up close now.

thinks for the karma bro. whats a "gray sguare" in your karma points mean?

i agree with you on that "in bed" mentality shit. its the way the lobbyist operate. thats the shit that needs to be changed.
anyway, goodnite.

 

[OMEGA]

You see this is great, we are not attacking each other, we are just talking.....
and it should be elevated to a higher level since we are talking online, and not face to face.

in regards to corporate wellfare.

ever heard of the S&L crisis..............this was an incident of White collar crime.........and becuase of the bail out every american has to pay for it.

would you like the estimate according to Dr. James Lance Taylor PHD. USC 1000 dollars for every man women and child in the US.

also the the majority of money for the aiplane bail out went to the corporations, and a miniscule amount went to fired workers of those airlines who recieved the bail out......also the airlines in order to cut costs, are thinking of eliminated some "perks" that you got before,,.....like airplane meals, and service orientated things. all in the name of keeping the economy going, and cutting costs. If you think these changes will be temmporary, think again.

also did you know in that in one year in the 1990's GE who makes weapons, lightbulbes, refriderators, contruction equipment, telecommunication technolgies, and own TV stations, and other media, paid less tax than one individual US taxpayer from the medium income tax Bracket?

Is that Capatalism? I think not, it's called closed capatalism limited only to those elite who already controll most markets`.
Capatalism is a bout comeptition, and an inferior product beating a superioir product. This just does not happen in the US man.

 

[strongchick]

ever heard of the S&L crisis..............this was an incident of White collar crime.........and becuase of the bail out every american has to pay for it.

Some might say the dotcom fallout was a white collar crime. History repeating itself?

 

[OMEGA]

the karma police are getting me.......ouch

I need a cam corder to document this!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spongebob]

also did you know in that in one year in the 1990's GE who makes weapons, lightbulbes, refriderators, contruction equipment, telecommunication technolgies, and own TV stations, and other media, paid less tax than one individual US taxpayer from the medium income tax Bracket?

i believe companies dont pay taxes when they dont turn a profit, but im no expert. and im not sure if GE turned a profit those yrs. if your gonna make statements like these you need to add more info so as we can make a true judgement.

 

[BigGuns2]

What in the hell do we owe muslims? I believe the oil rich arab states could do plenty to help their poorer muslim brothers. However they would much rather spend their oil money on lavish palaces and weapons of mass destruction to be used against us. If the Pakistani students have a "soft spot" for Osama Bin Laden, then maybe they should go to Afghanistan and join his Jihad. The more Jihaders we have in one place, the easier it will be to kill them.