Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've been contemplating the perfect cutting diet for me 6'2 210 9% and I see a similar problem with all. It seems that keto/low carbs eventually mess up your thyroid and ultimately lead to putting back on the fat when you quit, or reaching a bitch of a platue. Thats why I'm interested in this type of diet where fat burning takes place all day unitl post workout where recovery of muscles and thyroid takes place. If anybody has done this type of dieting please give me some results and suggestions.
Warrior/Animalbolic diet?
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I did this diet last year and the year before (Animalbolics). I have nothing but good priases for this diet and it has helped me loose vast amounts of wieght as well as make strength gains. I am in a different position then you as far as bodyweight though. I am about 17% bodyfat but last year was able to bring myself down to about 10-9% in about 2 1/2 months on the animalbolics diet. And the year before that the same. I am just starting up again last week and will let everyone know how it goes.. so far i am feeling great and have already lost weight.. i have gained many comments while on this diet.. even accusations of me starting to use steroids again.. and many of my friends have taken on this diet as well because of the results they have seen in me.. so yes i would say this diet definately deserves to be looked at more then once.. and i would reccomend it to anyone..
Thanks for the reply SCHNiKEN, in my first week I've lost 3lbs and I'm pretty lean already plus I can actually feel my strength go up. I'm pretty much using the exact copy of animal,s diet except I'm cutting out all processed carbs all my post workout carbs come from fruits. It seems like a very natural easy to follow diet. Did you use any supplements? Right now I'm using two eca in the morning and a good multivitam and 600mg of ALA postworkout to enhance the gylcogen refueling process.
nikolai_bolkov
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Anyone got a link to the details for this? I am desperately in need of a cutting diet.
Iron Thrower
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I don't know exactly what this diet consists of. Could someone please explain what it is. I am very interested in it. Thanks, Iron
I wish I was good at posting links, but I'm computer illiterate, anyways do a search here on animalbolics or go to testosterone.net and seacrh for warrior diet. Both the warrior diet and animalbolics are similar as they are based around one anabolic meal. This meal should be 200g carbs and 100g protien. which is 1200 calories the rest of your calories come from veggies and the 2-4 pieces of fruit and protien. The fruit should be apples or oranges or something low GI this supposedly keeps T3 converting to T4 and actually assists in the fat burning process during the day. My diet looks like this
Meal 1 8:30: 20g Tuna, Orange, ECA, Multi Vit
Meal 2 12:00 30g Salmon, 1 Tablespoon flax, ECA
Meal 3 1:30. 8g Glutamine on empty stomach (promotes GH release)
Meal 4 3:00 1 Apple, 1 Orange
Workout 4:00-5:30
Meal 5 postworkout: 4pieces of fruit, 100g of protein from either chicken, steak, venison, nonfat cottage cheese
Meal 6: Some salmon or tuna and an apple if I feel I need one
This diet is no means concrete just my interpretation of these two type of "one meal diets". SCHNiKEN please throw in some suggestions.
Meal 1 8:30: 20g Tuna, Orange, ECA, Multi Vit
Meal 2 12:00 30g Salmon, 1 Tablespoon flax, ECA
Meal 3 1:30. 8g Glutamine on empty stomach (promotes GH release)
Meal 4 3:00 1 Apple, 1 Orange
Workout 4:00-5:30
Meal 5 postworkout: 4pieces of fruit, 100g of protein from either chicken, steak, venison, nonfat cottage cheese
Meal 6: Some salmon or tuna and an apple if I feel I need one
This diet is no means concrete just my interpretation of these two type of "one meal diets". SCHNiKEN please throw in some suggestions.
Yeah, i also take some eca in the morning. Previously i was using xenadrine, this time I am giving md6 a shot. Actually im not using the md6 just yet, im waiting for the weight loss to slow down and im going to use them to give it a jump start. I am also taking some pure glutamine powder everyday, and thats about it for the supps.
My diet is pretty much the same. I eat all protien and fat during the day. Sometimes ill throw in a piece of fruit or two, which ill try to keep low on the gi chart. Occasionally before my workout, about an hour before, ill drink a cup of grape juice, or something with alot of quick carbs, to give me some energy for my workout. After my workout, I do the post workout meal a little differently. I actually split up the post workout meal into two meals. Right after the workout I will have a myoplex shake and a cup or two of brown rice. After that I will wait about an hour and a half and I will repeat the same type of meal, this time maybe some chicken and a baked potatoe or some brown rice. And then i sleep.
By splitting up the two meals instead of eating one big meal, I feel that my body is supplied with nutrients for a longer time. Also with the brown rice, or baked potatoe, my insulin level is higher during the postworkout period, and also stays elevated for a longer period of time, driving more protien/nutrients into my muscle during the 2 hour golden opportunity window for recovery.
The whole point of this diet from what i can grasp, and i have read quite a bit about it is:
1. Keep your carbs down during the day nothing except occasional fruit, which should also be kept to a minimum. During this period of time your body will not be releasing any insulin, and therefore FFA's or free fatty acids or "Your Fat" will be released into the blood easier and therefore burned away much quicker.
2. After your workout, your body should be fully depleted of any muscle glycogen or carbs stored in your body. So now you have had no insulin or very little flowing through your body all day. So after your workout, you basically want to shock your body with alot of carbs, alot of protien, and very little if any fat. According to animal this spikes your insulin way up and drives the protien nutrients into your muscles for the recovery. By starving yourself of carbs all day, your insulin sensitivity should be high and your postworkout meals should have more of an effect then a normal postworkout meal.
3. After your postworkout meals.. thats it no more carbs till the next day after your next workout. And if you don't workout that day, then guess what? No carbs for you all day and all night.
If you would like to read up on this diet there are three excellent articles on ironmag.com in the nutrition section. Of course, the animalbolics diet/warrior diet will vary from person to person because some people have found that certain things work better for them during this diet. But the basic ideas, and main point of the diet is too manipulate your insulin levels to cause fat loss throughout the day and then an anabolic state after your workout. Therefore in theory, allowing you to loose fat and gain muscle at the same time. And so far I can vouch for that, because it has worked so great for me.
The link is here... http://www.ironmag.com/im_one_meal_diet.html Part 1
http://www.ironmag.com/im_animalbolics.html Part 2
http://www.ironmag.com/im_bolics3.html Part 3
These three are very very informative and a good place to start if youd like to learn more about this diet.
My diet is pretty much the same. I eat all protien and fat during the day. Sometimes ill throw in a piece of fruit or two, which ill try to keep low on the gi chart. Occasionally before my workout, about an hour before, ill drink a cup of grape juice, or something with alot of quick carbs, to give me some energy for my workout. After my workout, I do the post workout meal a little differently. I actually split up the post workout meal into two meals. Right after the workout I will have a myoplex shake and a cup or two of brown rice. After that I will wait about an hour and a half and I will repeat the same type of meal, this time maybe some chicken and a baked potatoe or some brown rice. And then i sleep.
By splitting up the two meals instead of eating one big meal, I feel that my body is supplied with nutrients for a longer time. Also with the brown rice, or baked potatoe, my insulin level is higher during the postworkout period, and also stays elevated for a longer period of time, driving more protien/nutrients into my muscle during the 2 hour golden opportunity window for recovery.
The whole point of this diet from what i can grasp, and i have read quite a bit about it is:
1. Keep your carbs down during the day nothing except occasional fruit, which should also be kept to a minimum. During this period of time your body will not be releasing any insulin, and therefore FFA's or free fatty acids or "Your Fat" will be released into the blood easier and therefore burned away much quicker.
2. After your workout, your body should be fully depleted of any muscle glycogen or carbs stored in your body. So now you have had no insulin or very little flowing through your body all day. So after your workout, you basically want to shock your body with alot of carbs, alot of protien, and very little if any fat. According to animal this spikes your insulin way up and drives the protien nutrients into your muscles for the recovery. By starving yourself of carbs all day, your insulin sensitivity should be high and your postworkout meals should have more of an effect then a normal postworkout meal.
3. After your postworkout meals.. thats it no more carbs till the next day after your next workout. And if you don't workout that day, then guess what? No carbs for you all day and all night.
If you would like to read up on this diet there are three excellent articles on ironmag.com in the nutrition section. Of course, the animalbolics diet/warrior diet will vary from person to person because some people have found that certain things work better for them during this diet. But the basic ideas, and main point of the diet is too manipulate your insulin levels to cause fat loss throughout the day and then an anabolic state after your workout. Therefore in theory, allowing you to loose fat and gain muscle at the same time. And so far I can vouch for that, because it has worked so great for me.
The link is here... http://www.ironmag.com/im_one_meal_diet.html Part 1
http://www.ironmag.com/im_animalbolics.html Part 2
http://www.ironmag.com/im_bolics3.html Part 3
These three are very very informative and a good place to start if youd like to learn more about this diet.
Animalbolics
These are not my ideas. These are Animals.
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Biochemistry
The whole idea behind the diet is to control the release of insulin and to make it work for you and not against you. As we all know stimulation of the secretion of insulin is caused by an increase in blood glucose levels. Insulin is a polypeptide hormone that stimulates the assimilation of glucose into glycogen by the liver. Glycogen is a branched polymer of glucose residues that is the storage for of the latter in the liver and skeletal muscle. The funny thing about insulin is that when the muscles and liver is full of the glycogen the insulin will slam the excess into fat cells which is a BAD, BAD thing!! If you eat excess sugar (glucose) when your body doesnt need it or can't handle it then at least some of it will be changed to fat!
Diet
If you control control your intake of carbohydrates to the times when you muscle stores of glycogen are depleted then when you replenish the lost Glycogen you can actually add more than there was before. There is no greater time for need of the glycogen than after a workout where you have just burned a ton of your muscle glycogen. By ingesting adequeate amounts of the right type of carbohydrate you can Supercompensate for the lost muscle glycogen. If you ingest only enough of these high GI index carbs to fill your muscles and liver a bare minimum will get changed to fat at the most!! After ingesting these carbs if you go back to a "No Carb" diet you will make sure that no extra glucose will be turned to fat!!!
Animals original post on Animalobolics
Study perfi,rmed by Taylor and colleagues.' Following ingestion of a test meal consisting of cereal, skim milk, scrambled eggs, French toast, apple juice, and a milk shake [200 g (60% or 800 calories) carbohydrate, 45 g (21% fat or 405 calories), 80 g (19% or 320 calories) protein; 1,914 kcall] [The total calories and the breakdown of the intake is wrong because my scanner screwed it up and I don't have the original] by healthy subjects, muscle glycogen concentration did not start to rise until 1-2 hours after eating, and the increase was not statistically significant until 3 hours after eating. Seven hours following the meal, plasma insulin levels were still elevated threefold. Four hours following the meal, muscle glycogen began to fall, suggesting a flux of excess carbon out of the muscle and into storage as triglycerides (fat).
Another argument for Animalobolics! I had been looking for this entry into my comp for 2 years and though I don't have the entire study, that last line is significant. This was a mixed meal containing fat. This is not what you want to do after a workout. Look how long it took glycogen levels in the muscle to rise. 1-2 hours and it wasn't important until 3 hours. You need no fat and simple carbs with protein after a workout.
Seven hours following the meal, plasma insulin levels were still elevated threefold. Let's see, you want to eat small meals all day, still? The point is that eating mixed meals gets your insulin up and keeps it up for a long time. Hell, by 7 hours many would have eaten 2 more times and that would push your insulin up even higher and longer. Remember, if insulin is present, fat burning is negative!
The magical last line!!! Four hours following the meal, muscle glycogen began to fall, suggesting a flux of excess carbon out of the muscle and into storage as triglycerides (fat). Ahahahaha! Your insulin is still sky high and you haven't eaten anything, and carbon is leaking out of the muscles to be turned into fat! The muscles have all the carbs they need and when they are full of glycogen any excess glucose is going to be stored as fat! Read it, again. This is a main point of Animalobolics and why you only have carbs after your workout. Why? Because you carbed up AFTER the workout when it is most important and any further influx of carbs is going to leak out of a fully carbed up muscle and go to fat.
Again, I will give you the basics and most of you can figure out the rest. Base calorie should be figured out at 10-12 x your wt in lbs. All caloric intake is worked out by going backwards from your post workout meal. For that meal you take in 1g carbs for every 1k bodyweight. Now, you also take 1g whey or soy protein for every 2.5g of carbs that you just figured out. Do this immediately and 1-2 hours later. Subtract those numbers from your total caloric intake to see how much else you can eat for your other meals.
200lb man x 12 = 2400 calories.
200/2.2 = 90K
90K = 90g carbs after workout.
90/2.5 = 36g protein.
90g carbohydrates = 360cal
36g protein = 145 cal protein.
Total immediate intake is 505calories.
If you don't that regimen 1-2 hours later you will then have 1010calories.
2400 base - workout meals = 1390 calories left to eat for the next 24 hours. (Almost 3 Bigmacs) and if you can't make it through the day on those calories I don't know what to tell you) I'll tell you that with all that protein it is hard to eat after those 2 postworkout meals.
ALL YOUR SUBSEQUENT MEALS ARE GOING TO BE NO GLYCEMIC MEALS! Except for 2-3 doses of 200calories worth of fruit for a total of 400-500calories in carbs to keep your liver converting T4-T3. 200 in the morning 100cal or so at lunch and 100-200 at 2hrs before your next workout.
1390 - 500 calories leaves you with 890. If you are taking 1g protein per lb which I find very hard to do, that is 200g protein and 800 calories. You already have taken in 72g protein for 288 calories. From morning until your next workout you then need to get 128 g protein or 512 more calories in protein. That leaves you with only 378 calories in fat which is 42g. Just make sure you eat whey protein and eggs in the morning, then you can eat chicken or tuna salad (no bread) or taco salads (no shell) for lunch and you will be set. After the 2nd post-workout meals try to eat somewhat of a regular small meal to slow absorption and give you a release of protein while you sleep.
My Abolics Diet (~200lbs)
Outline: Protein Carbs Fat Cals
2 Post-workout shakes each at 36 90 0 505
Fruit 0 125 0 500
Remaining Protein 128 0 0 512
Remaining Fat 0 0 42 378
Total: 200 305 42 2400
Meal Food Protein Carbs Fat
Breakfast
~10am 3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs 26 0 12
Protein shake 18 1 0
16oz OJ 0 51 0
Lunch
~noon 1 can Tuna 30 0 0
1 Orange 0 17 0
Pre-Workout 16oz OJ 0 51 0
~1:30
Post-Workout #1
~immeadiately after Shake 36 90 0
Post-Workout #2
~1-2hrs later Shake 36 90 0
Dinner 4oz Ground Sirloin 32 0 17
~9:00pm 1oz cheddar 7 0 9
1/2 Potato n/a n/a n/a
Total: 185 300 38
You guys need to understand that the fruit is vital for this diet to work. If you guys can stand mixing a little honey w/ lemon in water that is much better becuase honey is like 95% fructose. The reason for eating this fruit or honey is that fructose is 4x better at getting converted to liver glycogen than glucose is. This is mandatory to keep your liver converting T3 and T4. The reason for eating the potato before bed is to make sure the protein eaten is absorbed slowly over the entire night.
5-6 MEALS A DAY MAKES YOU FAT!!!!!! How 5-6 meals a day makes you fat! That's right, and you read it here first. They make you fat. After I proved the farce of the ketogenic diets I began to think, 'What type of diet was I on that made me the leanest and put on the most mass!' Then one of the ketogenic diets authors sent me a nasty email which said, 'What diet won't shut down your thyroid, genius.' Well, if nothing else, he was at least smart enough to realize that those almighty diets do shut down your thyroid. I felt pity for him because it was sad how he was still clinging to dreams of ketosis even though he had been scammed. But realized there was hope for him when he called me 'genius'! He still had the power of rational thinking left and I'd be damned if I didn't help this poor soul. Hmmm. What diets don't shut down your thyroid? First, what do we know about how the thyroid shuts down when dieting? There are 3 ways; lack of carbohydrate, heat (DNP and external) and DNP binding to T4 protein and excreting it which is actually good, but that is another story. We aren't going to take DNP so those two are out and we are left with lack of carbohydrates. We are also not going to take CLA or pyruvate so we are left with a pure diet with no catches. How can we keep the carbs going. We all know of one diet that won't shut things down and that is the 'Up and down' type diet. We eat normal one day and lower our calories the next an repeat. This maintains all the hormones, but could take quite a long time. We need a faster and possibly simpler way. Why not eat 5-6 small meals a day? Because it makes you fat! Now we are going to use the ketogenic authors arguments against them. Insulin does what? It drives glucose and needed nutrients into the cells, including fat cells, AND it stops lipolysis!!!! It stops lipolysis!!!!! If I am eating 5-6 times a day I am going to be stopping lipolysis every single time I eat again because I will get an insulin rise which, can you all say it? Stops lipolysis!! You cannot burn fat if you are eating all day! Now, I am back to thinking about when I was the leanest. About 5 years ago when I was finishing college, but why? Because I only ate 1-2 meals a day! That's right and when you see the logic you will see the light always and realize that another scam has been perpetuated upon all of us in order to cell meal replacements. When did all this 5-6 meals a day really start to hit. When those meal replacements became all the rage. Throw them out because you don't need them anymore!! We will start our diet in the morning. The night before we replenished all our carbs before going to sleep. It is morning and we wake up and our body is in what mode? Fat burning mode!!! The first thing you usually learn is that if you want to burn the most fat off with aerobics you do it in the morning before you eat. Since we are in fat burning mode why would we want to ruin it with food that would raise insulin? And for what? What exercise are you going to do which you are going to need all that energy for? Remember you are fully carbed from last night. If you are fully carbed up and you eat carbohydrates then where are the carbs going? They can't go to muscle so they are going to FAT! Your morning meal makes you fatter!! So what do we do? You most likely are going to sit in a car and go sit in an office for 8 hours or so. The only thing which needs sugar is your brain and it doesn't need much. To keep in and enhance the fat burning you are going to drink coffee and take an ephedrin or PPA and add some yohimbine. The coffee suppress blood sugar and the E and Y and PPA cause a release of noradrenaline which is a potent fat burning hormone. If you get hungry you can have a protein drink, but no sugar. Fructose goes to fat automatically and the protein keeps the glucagon level up which is another fat burner. You don't want too much protein, though or that can go to sugar which is going to go to fat, as well. What do I do for lunch? You want to stay in fat burning mode right? First let's look at what others recommend. Eat your largest meal at lunch! Absolutely and totally wrong. What happens about an hour later. You are so tired from the insulin that you can hardly think and it takes all you can do to stay awake. Not only that, but all the carbs you ate are going to fat! What did you do to deplete the liver or muscle of carbs from the morning until now? NOTHING. You sat at your desk and maybe walked across the street to buy lunch. Your muscles need nothing so it all goes to fat and you ruined your fat burning as well with the insulin from the meal. You eat a light low glycemic high fat meal, like a salad for lunch and have some more ECY and maybe another protein drink. 2 hours - 45 minutes before you are going to work out you eat a low glycemic meal like oatmeal or an apple. This is scientifically proven to improve performance and will help you burn more fat. You workout and then you get to eat! Your muscles are primed for growth and now you want the insulin to be spiked so you get more glucose and AA's into them. We also know that most if not all of the recovery substrates need to be supplied to the muscle in a two hour window and then again before 6 hours. Immediately after your workout you consume up to 400 calories in a glucose/protein drink. 2 hours later you hit the damaged muscle again with your regular meal. Your muscles are now loaded with glucose and protein and they are waiting for you to take some ghb and go to bed so they can get some GH. That's it!. No BS. No pain. Look at it again. You are all carbed up. In the morning you are in or near ketosis and you want to keep it there. Eating would ruin it so you don't eat and besides, the insulin and carbs from the meal have nowhere to go so any calories would just go to fat. You don't do anything strenuous in the morning so you don't eat a high carb lunch which keeps you in ketosis. Eat a low glycemic meal 45 minutes before your workout. The time to eat and recover is AFTER you have worked out and that is when and how you do it. Simple carbs and protein and then your meal. Sleep. No expensive powders or pills or special foods. Can't get much simpler. This is now copyrighted material and I am serving notice that this cannot be reprinted, or posted, without my permission. Do it and I sue ya! There are supplements and steps to follow to get the most out of your thyroid and liver, but that will be later. If you have something to say about this being wrong then get some science to prove it or shut up. Just as I had science to expose the fallacies of ketogenic diets, I also have all the science to back this up. Anarchy in the USA
These are not my ideas. These are Animals.
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Biochemistry
The whole idea behind the diet is to control the release of insulin and to make it work for you and not against you. As we all know stimulation of the secretion of insulin is caused by an increase in blood glucose levels. Insulin is a polypeptide hormone that stimulates the assimilation of glucose into glycogen by the liver. Glycogen is a branched polymer of glucose residues that is the storage for of the latter in the liver and skeletal muscle. The funny thing about insulin is that when the muscles and liver is full of the glycogen the insulin will slam the excess into fat cells which is a BAD, BAD thing!! If you eat excess sugar (glucose) when your body doesnt need it or can't handle it then at least some of it will be changed to fat!
Diet
If you control control your intake of carbohydrates to the times when you muscle stores of glycogen are depleted then when you replenish the lost Glycogen you can actually add more than there was before. There is no greater time for need of the glycogen than after a workout where you have just burned a ton of your muscle glycogen. By ingesting adequeate amounts of the right type of carbohydrate you can Supercompensate for the lost muscle glycogen. If you ingest only enough of these high GI index carbs to fill your muscles and liver a bare minimum will get changed to fat at the most!! After ingesting these carbs if you go back to a "No Carb" diet you will make sure that no extra glucose will be turned to fat!!!
Animals original post on Animalobolics
Study perfi,rmed by Taylor and colleagues.' Following ingestion of a test meal consisting of cereal, skim milk, scrambled eggs, French toast, apple juice, and a milk shake [200 g (60% or 800 calories) carbohydrate, 45 g (21% fat or 405 calories), 80 g (19% or 320 calories) protein; 1,914 kcall] [The total calories and the breakdown of the intake is wrong because my scanner screwed it up and I don't have the original] by healthy subjects, muscle glycogen concentration did not start to rise until 1-2 hours after eating, and the increase was not statistically significant until 3 hours after eating. Seven hours following the meal, plasma insulin levels were still elevated threefold. Four hours following the meal, muscle glycogen began to fall, suggesting a flux of excess carbon out of the muscle and into storage as triglycerides (fat).
Another argument for Animalobolics! I had been looking for this entry into my comp for 2 years and though I don't have the entire study, that last line is significant. This was a mixed meal containing fat. This is not what you want to do after a workout. Look how long it took glycogen levels in the muscle to rise. 1-2 hours and it wasn't important until 3 hours. You need no fat and simple carbs with protein after a workout.
Seven hours following the meal, plasma insulin levels were still elevated threefold. Let's see, you want to eat small meals all day, still? The point is that eating mixed meals gets your insulin up and keeps it up for a long time. Hell, by 7 hours many would have eaten 2 more times and that would push your insulin up even higher and longer. Remember, if insulin is present, fat burning is negative!
The magical last line!!! Four hours following the meal, muscle glycogen began to fall, suggesting a flux of excess carbon out of the muscle and into storage as triglycerides (fat). Ahahahaha! Your insulin is still sky high and you haven't eaten anything, and carbon is leaking out of the muscles to be turned into fat! The muscles have all the carbs they need and when they are full of glycogen any excess glucose is going to be stored as fat! Read it, again. This is a main point of Animalobolics and why you only have carbs after your workout. Why? Because you carbed up AFTER the workout when it is most important and any further influx of carbs is going to leak out of a fully carbed up muscle and go to fat.
Again, I will give you the basics and most of you can figure out the rest. Base calorie should be figured out at 10-12 x your wt in lbs. All caloric intake is worked out by going backwards from your post workout meal. For that meal you take in 1g carbs for every 1k bodyweight. Now, you also take 1g whey or soy protein for every 2.5g of carbs that you just figured out. Do this immediately and 1-2 hours later. Subtract those numbers from your total caloric intake to see how much else you can eat for your other meals.
200lb man x 12 = 2400 calories.
200/2.2 = 90K
90K = 90g carbs after workout.
90/2.5 = 36g protein.
90g carbohydrates = 360cal
36g protein = 145 cal protein.
Total immediate intake is 505calories.
If you don't that regimen 1-2 hours later you will then have 1010calories.
2400 base - workout meals = 1390 calories left to eat for the next 24 hours. (Almost 3 Bigmacs) and if you can't make it through the day on those calories I don't know what to tell you) I'll tell you that with all that protein it is hard to eat after those 2 postworkout meals.
ALL YOUR SUBSEQUENT MEALS ARE GOING TO BE NO GLYCEMIC MEALS! Except for 2-3 doses of 200calories worth of fruit for a total of 400-500calories in carbs to keep your liver converting T4-T3. 200 in the morning 100cal or so at lunch and 100-200 at 2hrs before your next workout.
1390 - 500 calories leaves you with 890. If you are taking 1g protein per lb which I find very hard to do, that is 200g protein and 800 calories. You already have taken in 72g protein for 288 calories. From morning until your next workout you then need to get 128 g protein or 512 more calories in protein. That leaves you with only 378 calories in fat which is 42g. Just make sure you eat whey protein and eggs in the morning, then you can eat chicken or tuna salad (no bread) or taco salads (no shell) for lunch and you will be set. After the 2nd post-workout meals try to eat somewhat of a regular small meal to slow absorption and give you a release of protein while you sleep.
My Abolics Diet (~200lbs)
Outline: Protein Carbs Fat Cals
2 Post-workout shakes each at 36 90 0 505
Fruit 0 125 0 500
Remaining Protein 128 0 0 512
Remaining Fat 0 0 42 378
Total: 200 305 42 2400
Meal Food Protein Carbs Fat
Breakfast
~10am 3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs 26 0 12
Protein shake 18 1 0
16oz OJ 0 51 0
Lunch
~noon 1 can Tuna 30 0 0
1 Orange 0 17 0
Pre-Workout 16oz OJ 0 51 0
~1:30
Post-Workout #1
~immeadiately after Shake 36 90 0
Post-Workout #2
~1-2hrs later Shake 36 90 0
Dinner 4oz Ground Sirloin 32 0 17
~9:00pm 1oz cheddar 7 0 9
1/2 Potato n/a n/a n/a
Total: 185 300 38
You guys need to understand that the fruit is vital for this diet to work. If you guys can stand mixing a little honey w/ lemon in water that is much better becuase honey is like 95% fructose. The reason for eating this fruit or honey is that fructose is 4x better at getting converted to liver glycogen than glucose is. This is mandatory to keep your liver converting T3 and T4. The reason for eating the potato before bed is to make sure the protein eaten is absorbed slowly over the entire night.
5-6 MEALS A DAY MAKES YOU FAT!!!!!! How 5-6 meals a day makes you fat! That's right, and you read it here first. They make you fat. After I proved the farce of the ketogenic diets I began to think, 'What type of diet was I on that made me the leanest and put on the most mass!' Then one of the ketogenic diets authors sent me a nasty email which said, 'What diet won't shut down your thyroid, genius.' Well, if nothing else, he was at least smart enough to realize that those almighty diets do shut down your thyroid. I felt pity for him because it was sad how he was still clinging to dreams of ketosis even though he had been scammed. But realized there was hope for him when he called me 'genius'! He still had the power of rational thinking left and I'd be damned if I didn't help this poor soul. Hmmm. What diets don't shut down your thyroid? First, what do we know about how the thyroid shuts down when dieting? There are 3 ways; lack of carbohydrate, heat (DNP and external) and DNP binding to T4 protein and excreting it which is actually good, but that is another story. We aren't going to take DNP so those two are out and we are left with lack of carbohydrates. We are also not going to take CLA or pyruvate so we are left with a pure diet with no catches. How can we keep the carbs going. We all know of one diet that won't shut things down and that is the 'Up and down' type diet. We eat normal one day and lower our calories the next an repeat. This maintains all the hormones, but could take quite a long time. We need a faster and possibly simpler way. Why not eat 5-6 small meals a day? Because it makes you fat! Now we are going to use the ketogenic authors arguments against them. Insulin does what? It drives glucose and needed nutrients into the cells, including fat cells, AND it stops lipolysis!!!! It stops lipolysis!!!!! If I am eating 5-6 times a day I am going to be stopping lipolysis every single time I eat again because I will get an insulin rise which, can you all say it? Stops lipolysis!! You cannot burn fat if you are eating all day! Now, I am back to thinking about when I was the leanest. About 5 years ago when I was finishing college, but why? Because I only ate 1-2 meals a day! That's right and when you see the logic you will see the light always and realize that another scam has been perpetuated upon all of us in order to cell meal replacements. When did all this 5-6 meals a day really start to hit. When those meal replacements became all the rage. Throw them out because you don't need them anymore!! We will start our diet in the morning. The night before we replenished all our carbs before going to sleep. It is morning and we wake up and our body is in what mode? Fat burning mode!!! The first thing you usually learn is that if you want to burn the most fat off with aerobics you do it in the morning before you eat. Since we are in fat burning mode why would we want to ruin it with food that would raise insulin? And for what? What exercise are you going to do which you are going to need all that energy for? Remember you are fully carbed from last night. If you are fully carbed up and you eat carbohydrates then where are the carbs going? They can't go to muscle so they are going to FAT! Your morning meal makes you fatter!! So what do we do? You most likely are going to sit in a car and go sit in an office for 8 hours or so. The only thing which needs sugar is your brain and it doesn't need much. To keep in and enhance the fat burning you are going to drink coffee and take an ephedrin or PPA and add some yohimbine. The coffee suppress blood sugar and the E and Y and PPA cause a release of noradrenaline which is a potent fat burning hormone. If you get hungry you can have a protein drink, but no sugar. Fructose goes to fat automatically and the protein keeps the glucagon level up which is another fat burner. You don't want too much protein, though or that can go to sugar which is going to go to fat, as well. What do I do for lunch? You want to stay in fat burning mode right? First let's look at what others recommend. Eat your largest meal at lunch! Absolutely and totally wrong. What happens about an hour later. You are so tired from the insulin that you can hardly think and it takes all you can do to stay awake. Not only that, but all the carbs you ate are going to fat! What did you do to deplete the liver or muscle of carbs from the morning until now? NOTHING. You sat at your desk and maybe walked across the street to buy lunch. Your muscles need nothing so it all goes to fat and you ruined your fat burning as well with the insulin from the meal. You eat a light low glycemic high fat meal, like a salad for lunch and have some more ECY and maybe another protein drink. 2 hours - 45 minutes before you are going to work out you eat a low glycemic meal like oatmeal or an apple. This is scientifically proven to improve performance and will help you burn more fat. You workout and then you get to eat! Your muscles are primed for growth and now you want the insulin to be spiked so you get more glucose and AA's into them. We also know that most if not all of the recovery substrates need to be supplied to the muscle in a two hour window and then again before 6 hours. Immediately after your workout you consume up to 400 calories in a glucose/protein drink. 2 hours later you hit the damaged muscle again with your regular meal. Your muscles are now loaded with glucose and protein and they are waiting for you to take some ghb and go to bed so they can get some GH. That's it!. No BS. No pain. Look at it again. You are all carbed up. In the morning you are in or near ketosis and you want to keep it there. Eating would ruin it so you don't eat and besides, the insulin and carbs from the meal have nowhere to go so any calories would just go to fat. You don't do anything strenuous in the morning so you don't eat a high carb lunch which keeps you in ketosis. Eat a low glycemic meal 45 minutes before your workout. The time to eat and recover is AFTER you have worked out and that is when and how you do it. Simple carbs and protein and then your meal. Sleep. No expensive powders or pills or special foods. Can't get much simpler. This is now copyrighted material and I am serving notice that this cannot be reprinted, or posted, without my permission. Do it and I sue ya! There are supplements and steps to follow to get the most out of your thyroid and liver, but that will be later. If you have something to say about this being wrong then get some science to prove it or shut up. Just as I had science to expose the fallacies of ketogenic diets, I also have all the science to back this up. Anarchy in the USA
The diet does work very well and I follow a somewhat similar plan. There is now some scientific research to support such a plan as well. I feel this is a natural way that our bodies were meant to eat based on evolution and a hunter/gatherer lifestyle. I have a lot of other info on my post that's still towards the top of the diet board, "Ultimate Fat Loss Plan". Keep in mind you don't want to go over 18hours w/out a protein meal, so 1-3 smaller meals during the day before the big meal at night, OR, this works just as well, the big meal in the morning after an AM workout and a few smaller meals afterwards.
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i tried this diet a while back. it worked pretty damn good for me i think, or maybe it was because i was just eating more cals? i basically didnt eat anything through the day when i was on this diet the only time i ate was before workout and a ton of protien and carbs after workout
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