wanting to start this cycle; educated advice desired...

[rcmf5525]

me:
29yo, 5'8", 200lbs, 11% bf.

Cycle:
Trenbolone (Trinaplex) - 100mg EOD for 60 days
Winstrol Depot (Stanogen) - 50mg EOD for 60 days

Thermogenics:
Cytomel T3 - Stepped from 25mcg ED to 50mcg to 75mcg and back down over 35 days in combo with:
Clenbuterol - 100mcd ED for 60 days


PCT:
Liquidex - 1mg ED for 30 days, .5mg ED for 30 days
-Heard a lot of good things about Liquidex and how it works better than Clomid/Nolvadex... BS or not?


Im not a body builder, just want to lean out, get more ripped, and gain strength (who doesnt...). Diet is good, just one of those body types that cant seem to get ripped up naturally... I was thinking about adding Anavar to the cycle, but not sure if it will be too much...

Thoughts?

Thanks...

 

[wolfman87]

definitely don't do var and winny at the same time. also where's the test bro? your pct sux, look into the Test recovery stack and forged post cycle. where are you getting your liquidex? diet? routine?

 

[rcmf5525]

I was getting the Liquidex from *edit* (lol, sorry), but I guess I will go with nova and clomid. You arent the first to suggest a change.

I really dont understand why the Test? I have seen what Test does in a cycle and dont want that. Bloat, gyno, high blood pressure, ect... Tren is a relative, using that word lightly, safe AAS that produces good results. I did a partial cycle of the Tren/Winstrol combination while over seas a few years back and my only complaint was that I wish I had more to do. Only available product was a 10ml vial of each: Tren200 and winny@50mg/ml. Needless to say, it left me wanting more, but what I did get, for the short time I was on it, was great. I was more wondering about the T3 and Clen stacked together with the AAS and the PCT, not so much the AAS stack by itself. Should have been more clear, sorry. Im changing the PCT though...

Anyone have experience with T3 and Clen together?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Hey you want to do me a fav and edit out where your getting your L-dex from i dont like seeing this out in the open .


Brad.

 

[wolfman87]

i've heard that the T3/clen stack ALONE is pretty cool so i would imagine that while on a cycle like that it would be just as effective. it looks like a pretty sweet cycle you have planned, i just thought that you would like to add some test in because it adds size and strength pretty well (and cuts fat too! lol). any bloat that could happen would be wiped out by the other stuff, the high blood pressure can come with most any AAS to my knowledge, and the winny and aromasin (if needed at all) would take care of any gyno. tren can cause gyno as well... in case you were unaware.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

so your not a body builder and just want to "lean out".....?

You want to use tren, winstrol, clen, and T3 with NO test? Seriously? Am I the only one who sees a problem with this?

Then for PCT you want to use 1mg of dex daily?

No one else thinks all this is a VERY bad idea?
I assume since you did not say otherwise that this is your first try with AAS? Which would make it and even worse idea. What happens if you get tren gyno? The dex wont help you. Also wont help you for PCT after tren.

 

[usmcnut]

I don't like it!!!
First, No Test... can it be done? Sure! but Tren is mean, I hope your ready, and get the right Anti's.
Second, Clen at 100mcg's for 60days? Your body will get use to it and build a tolerance after 2-3 weeks. Its recommended 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off at 40mcg through 120mcg.
Last, Your PCT needs work.

 

[rcmf5525]

Cycle:
Test e (Testplex E 250) – 400mg/week for 12 weeks
Trenbolone (Trinaplex) - 100mg EOD for 60 days
Winstrol Depot (Stanogen) - 50mg EOD for 60 days

Thermogenics:
Cytomel T3 - Stepped from 25mcg ED to 50mcg to 75mcg and back down over 35 days in combo with:
Clenbuterol - 60mcg ED; 2 weeks on 2 weeks off x 3

AI:
Liqiudex - .5mg ED; Start on day of first Test injection. End 2 weeks after last Test injection

PCT:
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20; Start 2 weeks after last Test injection (day after last Liquidex dosage)
Clomid - 100/50/50/50 (day after last Liquidex dosage)

Look any better?
Ok, I might not have been totally clear, this is my first “real” or “full” cycle. I did 10ml of Tren200 and Winny Depot 50 when I was overseas once a few years back (winter 2005). It gave me exactly what I wanted it just wasn’t enough product. I was in Afghanistan, and did not know about the mail order revolution at the time. Too bad. I only did .5 mil of each, EOD, to stretch it as long as I could. Not a bad dose of Tren, it turns out, but low on the Winny. I actually lost 8lbs, but everyone was like, DAMN! Physique and strength wise. When I got home, the wife was impressed. I took some OTC estrogen blocker (I think it was the Sylvester Stallone crap, remember that? LOL) as my PCT, and did not notice any negative SE. Of course it was low dose, short duration, and low SE AAS. I have done a lot of research and reading since then, just haven’t been in the situation right for another cycle until now. Not too sure where I missed that Test is the basis for most cycles, bulking cycles I get, but not cutting ones. I have posted the same question on multiple forums, no offence, and got about the same response… Where is the Test? I’m just leery of the shit from what I have seen. A buddy got all swollen and grew tits. Don’t want that! I’m sure he had no idea what he was doing though… Also been told, multiple times, that Liquidex as my PCT sucked… Everywhere I read says it’s a good AI and if Im taking Test, might as well throw that in with the stack to keep the SE low. Good idea?

The Nolva and Clomid are only once a week for 4 weeks @ the dosage listed above?

The total cycle, AI, sharps, and pct is about $825, sound in the ball park? I will be placing my order on the 15th and just want to get my shit together…

Thanks guys…

 

[rcmf5525]

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