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Want to start martial arts, need advice

you dont know his background. he could be LE or a bodyguard or someone who NEEDS to have a firearm him 24/7

regardless if you are going to carry a gun you need to know how to protect it first and then also train in fighting with it and without it.

the last thing you want is to lose the weapon.

I have trained a bunch of LE and for them they are most likely to get into an altercation while having a loaded firearm.

delphiOne said:
There is a tricky bit of business with using a gun for self defence. I suppose this might be hijacking the thread slightly because paridhm mentioned his interest in a defensive art. Sending someone to the hospital or morgue by using a deadly weapon isn't too defensive.

The main problem with a gun is that these are really your only two options, unless you merely want to use it to intimidate which is an extraordinarily bad idea, by the way.

The fantasy of defending yourself with a firearm is drastically different from the reality. Realistically, if you defend yourself by shooting someone, you WILL end up in court and you WILL be faced with approximately $10K in expenditures and probably a year of legal hassling - and that it is if you are found innocent of any misjudgement!

If it is found that your judgement was off in any way, you could be in very serious trouble. If someone is dead, you can bet there will be someone who wants the person to blame for it. It is a little more lienient in Texas but everywhere else in the US, the legal system seems to protect the criminal more than the victim. Totally backasswards, sadly, but that's the way it is.

This brings up another very interesting statistic: more than 85% of violent crimes are not random street encounters, but happen between people that have met before. Chances are if you are involved in a violent confrontation, it will be with a friend, relative, or someone you know. Do you really want to leave someone you know dead or hospitalized? To me, this is the biggest case for martial arts training. You should be able to neutralize a threat without killing or seriously injuring someone. Through training, you can choose just how much you need to 'illustrate your point' upon an attacker. There are a number arts that you can really put the hurt on someone and not leave so much as a bruise for him to use as evidence.

Now, it's not that I'm against guns. In fact, I've been an eager gun enthusiast since I was a kid and own quite a few. There are times when a gun is exactly the tool for the job, and martial arts won't do squat for you. I'd love the opportunity to carry a gun all the time (it'd be sweet to live in Vermont), but it would be used only as a last resort. I would only bring it out if I felt there was no other option and my life were being threatened. For most situations, it is way more tool than you need - kinda like using a chain saw to cut your steak.

One last thing, you can also get through a metal detector with martial arts training!
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paridhm said:
Don't get me wrong I have no problem defending myself. I prefer option #1. I'm just saying I'm not one of those hot heads who goes looking to hurt someone. I want the mental and physical confidence martial arts can give me. I live in South Carolina so my options are very much limited compared to you bros whom live in big cities. I own a Glock .40 caliber by the way.

by chance do you live in very northern sc
cus my instructor and I are always after dedicated students
right now we have 2 or maybe 4
but only 2 that show up regularly
 
paridhm said:
Don't get me wrong I have no problem defending myself. I prefer option #1. I'm just saying I'm not one of those hot heads who goes looking to hurt someone. I want the mental and physical confidence martial arts can give me. I live in South Carolina so my options are very much limited compared to you bros whom live in big cities. I own a Glock .40 caliber by the way.

Bubbah I drive 2-3 hours EACH WAY to MY lessons , I SO have no Idea what youre talking about ! (wish I DID , but hey ...)


There are ppl in SC . Whats your Zipcode ?
 
Kane Fan said:
by chance do you live in very northern sc
cus my instructor and I are always after dedicated students
right now we have 2 or maybe 4
but only 2 that show up regularly

I live in the Upstate. 29625 zipcode. I only mentioned having a gun because djimbe brought it up in his post. One of the benefits of Matial Arts is having an option of not having to use a gun. I don't want to kill, just defend myself.
 
heres a better option that carrying a gun everywhere you go to (which i think is just retarded)

1. mace/ bear spray in a tiny little bottle
2. a taser
3. a small swiss army knife or something
 
have to agree with yarg brazilian jiu jitsu is the way to go!


"Brazilian jiu jitsu is the pitbull of Martial arts"
 
bjj is good but by far it is not the end all for self defense especially for someone who carries a gun

ground work needs to be trained but the amount of time you spend on the mat in most bjj classes (80%+) it does not make it the best sole choice for self defense.

IMO you need basic ground work, good striking and good take downs.

i would prefer NEVER to leave my feet in a self defense situation and in BJJ most of your best weapons are when you are on your back or on the ground where you cant really see all aspects of a self defense situation.

BTW i learned a great deal about striking when i first started BJJ. my instructor was great at closing the distance and getting a clinch or takedown.

I also prefer not to strike in a Self defense situation. my hands are very valuable to me and I also have far more control with takedowns, throws and submissions then i do w/ my strikes.

also do not discount tournament styles for self defense again IMO some of the best styles for self defense are tournament based: boxing, kickboxing, MTB, wrestling, Judo, BJJ all have tournament aspects and most schools teaching these arts focus a great deal of there time prepping for tournaments.

prepping for tournaments does a good job of prepping you for a self defense situation. if you are ready to go out and take on skilled opponents in your style and excecute your moves that they are proficient in defending then odds are that you will not get nervous in a Self Defense situation and most likely your opponent will not be as skilled as your opponents you face in a tournament.

also the sparring in tournament styles is a great way to train or prepare yourself.
 
Judo, I also agree with you in regards to bjj not being the ultimate in self defense.I'm just more partial to it cause its what I've been training for the last 2.5 years.Just starting to train judo and I enjoy it just as much as bjj.

I think its safe to say that fighters are evolving.Most fighters are training 2 or more arts at the same time.We have seen that you need to be a well rounded fighter,to be effective your feet as well as on the ground.

Being able to strike and you use your hands effectively is a must.I too would prefer to stay on my feet before having to to the ground.

I just think that arts like bjj and judo are arts that you can train in the dojo that are close contact and give you an idea if these moves work.Plus for cardio and building up a sweat they're great.

Judo Tom I agree with what you say and he should definetly take into account.
 
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