Want to gain mass

[worksux]

i want to gain mass and am thinking of taking creatine. i just want to make sure that its safe and that they are no long term side affects. so if there are any please let me know. im thinking of doing this with my workout

Before workout http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html

After workout http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html

also how much creatine should i take?

i workout in the morning between breakfast and lunch so:

between lunch and dinner im going to take a half of a serving of this http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pl/large.html


also if i take creatine till i reach my desired weight and choose to stop using it but still continue to workout and drink protein shakes will i lose what i gained from using creatine?

thanks

 

[OMEGA]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...ultra-amplify-02-lipoflame-rawmcc-587174.html

 

[Kevsta96]

Your thinking to much. Sounds like you are just starting to get into working out. Eat, eat, eat, and also eat if you want to gain mass and workout hard! Throwing in some creatine will help you put on some fast weight but it will mostly be water weight and yes you would most likely lose the water weight if you stopped taking the creatine. Good luck

 

[Tatyana]

Your thinking to much. Sounds like you are just starting to get into working out. Eat, eat, eat, and also eat if you want to gain mass and workout hard! Throwing in some creatine will help you put on some fast weight but it will mostly be water weight and yes you would most likely lose the water weight if you stopped taking the creatine. Good luck

+1 on the focusing on training and a solid diet.

Creatine is great though, it works really well in 'trained' athletes.

Operative word being 'trained'.

Post up your diet and routine in the other sections if you want any advice.

 

[worksux]

thanks for the responses. im not new to working out i've been working out for a couples of years now (im 18) but i just recently started to use supplements. since i will eventually loose what i gained from creatine i think im going to stay away from it. currently i am doing this

after workouts i drink a full serving of this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pl/large.html

im planning on taking http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bsn/xplode.html before workouts because i feel kind of tired (even when i get a good nights rest). but besides taking xplode before and the mass gainer after. are there any other supplements that i should consider?

also my diet is something like this:

breakfast: cereal
snack: protein bar (400 calories)
lunch: varies from day to day but usually around 500 calories
snack: peanut butter and jelly sandwich
dinner: also varies but its around 600 calories

i workout monday through friday and take the mass gainer right after workouts. and drink it on my days off (saturday and sunday) between meals.

any advice on how i can gain more mass?

thanks

 

[Tatyana]

also my diet is something like this:

breakfast: cereal
Cereal is usually all simple carbs and sugar. Shredded wheat with a protein shake or eggs, oatmeal with whey protein or eggs.
snack: protein bar (400 calories) Glorified candy bar, full of sugar and trans fats, most are again, rubbish food, good in an emergency or as a treat, not as a daily meal.

lunch: varies from day to day but usually around 500 calories

snack: peanut butter and jelly sandwich

Again, I would think that you are not getting enough protein, and I would guess that the bread is also not the best quality. Jelly = sugar.

dinner: also varies but its around 600 calories

i workout monday through friday and take the mass gainer right after workouts. and drink it on my days off (saturday and sunday) between meals.

any advice on how i can gain more mass?

thanks

Supplements are not going to make a huge amount of difference with your diet as it is right now, it would be trying to build a boat with platinum nails with rotten wood (supps being the nails, your diet being the wood).

Check out this thread, while you are bulking, and young, the occasional pizza and Maccie D will probably benefit you for the calories, but if you are serious about building muscle, well, it is down to diet and your training.

Diet, check this thread, covers almost everything

Help to sort out your diet, including BMR calculations and shopping list
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...iet-565562.html


Training, what is your split?

What is your intensity like?

 

[worksux]

thanks for the response. my training is like this

monday, wednesday (im lifting 3x8)

Bench
Incline
Shoulder press
Shurgs


tuesday thursday (also 3x8)

barbell curls
squats
lat pulls
tricep extension

fridays are heavy days (5x5)
bench
shoulder press
barbell curls
squats

saturday and sunday are off

also i dont think the link that you gave me is working, it puts me back to the front page of the forums.

 

[Tatyana]

thanks for the response. my training is like this

monday, wednesday (im lifting 3x8)

Bench
Incline
Shoulder press
Shurgs


tuesday thursday (also 3x8)

barbell curls
squats
lat pulls
tricep extension

fridays are heavy days (5x5)
bench
shoulder press
barbell curls
squats

saturday and sunday are off

also i dont think the link that you gave me is working, it puts me back to the front page of the forums.

Here is the link.

I would also suggest you are over-training, you are benching, squatting, bar-bell curs and shoulder pressing three times a week.

Some can tolerate that sort of training and make gains, usually the genetic elite.

For those that are taller and leaner, ectomorph types, that will seriously hinder any muscle growth.

It may sound at odds, as we normally think more is better, but training two or three times a week you may see better gains.

 

[worksux]

thanks, the link is still not working. also i dont want to over train so im thinking of taking out the heavy day so i am lifting each body part twice a week. like this:

Monday/Thursday
Bench
Incline
Shoulder press
Shrugs

tuesday/friday
barbell curls
squats
lat pulls
tricep extension

would this also be over training?

 

[Tatyana]

thanks, the link is still not working. also i dont want to over train so im thinking of taking out the heavy day so i am lifting each body part twice a week. like this:

Monday/Thursday
Bench - Chest/tris
Incline - Chest/tris
Shoulder press - shoulders/arms
Shrugs - shoulders/back

tuesday/friday
barbell curls - biceps
squats - legs
lat pulls - back
tricep extension - triceps

would this also be over training?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/help-sort-out-your-diet-565562.html

Try this link again, if not, go into the women's forum, there is a thread with links to all the top threads, this is the bottom one, I will bump it as well.

You are training triceps two days in a row.

Also there is not a lot for your legs (or calves) or really for your back development.

It is those big muscle groups that really help to develop the overall physique.

What is your build like?

You could just try what you are doing, taking measurements, weight, and if you don't make any progress in 4-6 weeks, then something is not working.

Training needs to be changed quite frequently anyway, not just the exercises, but the rep ranges as well.

Some of the best building exercises:

Back - deadlifts, bent over rows, T-bar rows, pull ups (a lot of these will also hammer your biceps, so if you drop an exercise, drop bicep curls), deadlifts also are great for legs, especially the hamstrings.


Chest and Triceps - dips

I also think that french press/skull crushers are great for tricep development