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redguru said:
Agreed.
What pissed so many people off is that this thread was not created to spark discussion about the what's going on.
I don't why it was created. I don't know what this person was trying to accomplish. Maybe he thought he was trying to be cool and jump on the FTF & 75th bandwagon. Lets be honest here, the first post and title is blatantly ignorant.
ziggyziggy
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gjohnson5 said:
How is the truth racist?
Zig
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By the way, after reading this entire thread for the first time today, I have to say......
I feel like I have front row seats to the biggest limp-wristed slap fight in the history of mankind. The level of ignorance of some people on both sides of this argument is simply astounding. Keep it up though, this is entertainment at its finest!
Anyone got some popcorn?
Zig
I feel like I have front row seats to the biggest limp-wristed slap fight in the history of mankind. The level of ignorance of some people on both sides of this argument is simply astounding. Keep it up though, this is entertainment at its finest!
Anyone got some popcorn?
Zig
75th said:
I'm not accusing you. I've seen your threads. And I agree with some of things you said. But this person was seeking attention and trying to spark some controversy. I guess he accomplished what he wanted. This thread was not created to spark any kind of intelligent discourse.
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gjohnson5 said:
I'm not knocking his accomplishments. They are worthy of a place in history. I'm just wondering how speaking the truth about someone, good or bad, can be considered racist.
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samoth said:Bingo, heh. Apparently there's not too much flood damage, but mostly wind and tree damage. President Cowen's saying it should be a somewhat easy fix, and that seems the general consensus. Hopefully. The '09ers are really in a tough spot though.
Well, the good thing is classes can be held anywhere. Labs, on the other hand...
milo hobgoblin
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LOL Im racist for pointing out a simple truth ..
MLK wrote the "forward" in a book advocatring the killing of whites.. and yes GJohnson you KNOW which one Im talking about.
You have A LOT of nerve calling me a racist. I would NEVER advocate violence against someone based on their skin color.
The ONLY thing above ALL else I stand for is TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS. this has nothing to do with skin color, culture, whatever.
the difference is everything I say is verifiable.. crime stats, history, social issues...
you want to talk about racism? Africa is thriving with slavery.. 25 million people are enslaved.. blacks.. by other blacks.. for the simple reaon that their skin is a shade lighter or darker.. or their tribal name is different.
there are more slaves in Africa.. that there was in the entire South.. white AND black.
Most of you lack even a basic undertsanding of cultural history other than what you read in some bullshit revisionist high school textbook.
MLK wrote the "forward" in a book advocatring the killing of whites.. and yes GJohnson you KNOW which one Im talking about.
You have A LOT of nerve calling me a racist. I would NEVER advocate violence against someone based on their skin color.
The ONLY thing above ALL else I stand for is TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS. this has nothing to do with skin color, culture, whatever.
the difference is everything I say is verifiable.. crime stats, history, social issues...
you want to talk about racism? Africa is thriving with slavery.. 25 million people are enslaved.. blacks.. by other blacks.. for the simple reaon that their skin is a shade lighter or darker.. or their tribal name is different.
there are more slaves in Africa.. that there was in the entire South.. white AND black.
Most of you lack even a basic undertsanding of cultural history other than what you read in some bullshit revisionist high school textbook.
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ziggyziggy said:
You keep using the word truth... truth in who's eyes? Truth coming out of who's mouth? Things are only "true" if you believe them to be true. 2+2 = 5 if you so choose to believe this to be true.
I call people "racist" by the comments that they make, by the "truths" that they so choose to believe, and the "truths" that they choose to ignore. Focusing on ones personal life while ignoring the selfless acts and jail stays that one has made to fight ignornace and oppression give ammunition in my eyes that they are "racist" if someone donate $1,000,000,000 to the national Cancer foundation , stays with kids at Shriner's hospital for hours on end and gives scholarships to to medical students , but yet may have a personal problem , does that make the person bad???
Stop using the word "truth" while ignoring 85% of the "facts", because truth at that angle becomes fabrication.
milo hobgoblin
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GJohnson.. give it up. If MLK's records were released by the feds his rep would be ruined.. even his daughter admitted it.
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redguru said:
I too agree, except out jackass pres believes under no circumstances looting is acceptable , (food/meds too) and wants to punish all involved
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Milo Hobgoblin said:
You are an idiot trying to use dirt as a means of clouding the "truth" Truths are created by liars in an attempt to gain followers. Your "point of view" cannot and should not be used as a moral reference point as one fact in the face of hundreds , even if the one fact is "factual" , it will be heavily out weighed. I bet your favorite preacher is Jimmy Swaggart , lol
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gjohnson5 said:
Truth as in documented facts.
I never intended to give the impression that I thought MLK was anything less than a great man. I merely wanted you to answer the question, which you still have not done.
No, 2 + 2 does not = 5. Perception and opinion are not fact or reality. All people have flaws, and have made some poor choices in life. However denying that these flaws or poor choices exist, or labeling the person pointing them out as racist, smacks of hypocrisy and insecurity.
It is no better than saying that Joseph Stalin was a great man for doing most of the work in defeating Nazi Germany. Then calling a person a racist for pointing out that he was responsible for the deaths of around 15 million during farm collectivization, and another 600,000 through torture between 1936 and 1939.
Zig
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Milo Hobgoblin said:
Milo I've always loved your posts. I even said one time you should be president.
Therefore you definately can't be black.
j/k.
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gjohnson5 said:
They have already been pointed out by other posters in this thread. You have simply chosen to disregard them.
Zig
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nycgirl said:
I think he figured he could start a low brow cynical topic and actually have it stay on that course and not have it turn into a serious racism thread of epic proportions. I saw what he was doing from the go, i took it for what it's worth, I thought it was plain as day, but alas, people will be people and use any excuse to start shit.
This thread right now is a microcosm of the past 5 days of New Orleans.
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gjohnson5 said:
The point I was trying to prove, well, it really doesn't matter now that you resorted to a personal attack to distract from your perception = reality view of things.
Bashing an American hero? Hardly. Read the first reply that I made to you. You have been dodging the question from the get go. Don't get emotional, it only makes you look
Did you have to look that quote up, or were you able to come up with that all by your lonesome?
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ziggyziggy said:The point I was trying to prove, well, it really doesn't matter now that you resorted to a personal attack to distract from your perception = reality view of things.
Bashing an American hero? Hardly. Read the first reply that I made to you. You have been dodging the question from the get go. Don't get emotional, it only makes you look
Did you have to look that quote up, or were you able to come up with that all by your lonesome?
Zig
I don't wish to go over any of the lack of content that you have spewn on this thread. There are no "fact" that you have shown, but you and a few other have tried to make a "point" that MLk is not a man of his word. Then again the same has been said for Jesse jackson and every other african American leader since they do not have the same skin color as you knuckleheads...
To quote the doctor:
This note was a promise that all men would be guaranteed the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation.
Enough said... Your bank of bullshit has just come to went NSF
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gjohnson5 said:
You still have not answered my original question. How is the truth racist?
Zig
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ziggyziggy said:
There was a question there???
OOh , my bad.
Since I did not give your post the respect to go back and swim in a lake of idiocy. i'll repeat so people with your intelligence can understand
If you wish to call something true , then prove it...
saying 2+2 = 5 does not make it "true"
Making a arguement that MLK is not a moral authority despite his words and actions is like saying GW Bush has never had a DUI... ,LOL
ziggyziggy
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gjohnson5 said:
I never made that argument. You made the ASSumption that I did. You let your emotions mold your train of thought.
gjonhson5 said:
Lucy, you've got some 'splainin' to do....
Look, if you want to turn this into an excercise in self-mental masturbation in order to make yourself feel good, then by all means, continue to make an ass out of yourself on this issue. The truth is that you are flip-flopping more than John Kerry during an election speach on why he voted to go to war with Iraq.
As far as my intelligence goes......... you do not know a thing about my educational level, research papers that I have published, or what I do for a living now. You choose to swim in a pool of self pity and suppossed moral superiority, bacause, why? Is it easier to be a victim, and label everyone who doesn't agree with your narrow interpretations of the world around you as a racist or something worse?
Oh yeah, you still haven't answered the original question. By all means though, keep sidestepping it. It is amusing to me.
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Im just gonna post that Ziggy was trying to be neutral and I respect that. Also I believe even if a person does a lot of great things for society and donates googles amount of money and then goes home and molests children or beats his wife that he is still a bad person. Going out and saying great things is easier then going home and being great things...if that makes sense.
P.S. I dont believe 75th to have made racist remarks.
Disclaimer: This was a hijack of the thread and Im sorry...I just wanted to state my opinion.
P.S. I dont believe 75th to have made racist remarks.
Disclaimer: This was a hijack of the thread and Im sorry...I just wanted to state my opinion.
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chefbone said:I still think GJ is a good dude.
i agree. i have found many of his posts to be insightful and of value. this argument with me, however, is an exception to that rule.
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samoth said:Theorem: 2 + 2 = 5
Proof:
n(5n - 5) = n(5n - 5)
n(5n - 5) - n(5n - 5) = 0
(n - n)(5n - 5) = 0
5n(n - n) - 5(n - n) = 0
5n - 5 = 0
5n = 5
n + n = 5
or setting n = 2
2 + 2 = 5
QED
You, sir, have mad math skills. Having been a physicist at one point in my distant past, I giveth you props.
Having said that, though. Can you find a real-world application for your theorem?
Zig
ziggyziggy said:
Sure can:
Theorem: All numbers are equal.
Proof:
Choose arbitrary a and b, and let t = a + b. Then
a + b = t
(a + b)(a - b) = t(a - b)
a^2 - b^2 = ta - tb
a^2 - ta = b^2 - tb
a^2 - ta + (t^2)/4 = b^2 - tb + (t^2)/4
(a - t/2)^2 = (b - t/2)^2
a - t/2 = b - t/2
a = b
So all numbers are the same, and math is pointless.
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samoth said:Sure can:
Theorem: All numbers are equal.
Proof:
Choose arbitrary a and b, and let t = a + b. Then
a + b = t
(a + b)(a - b) = t(a - b)
a^2 - b^2 = ta - tb
a^2 - ta = b^2 - tb
a^2 - ta + (t^2)/4 = b^2 - tb + (t^2)/4
(a - t/2)^2 = (b - t/2)^2
a - t/2 = b - t/2
a = b
So all numbers are the same, and math is pointless.
Thanks, my brain hurts now
Zig
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gjohnson5 said:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=truth&x=0&y=0
2 a (1) : the state of being the case : FACT (2) : the body of real things, events, and facts : ACTUALITY (3) often capitalized : a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality b : a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true <truths of thermodynamics> c : the body of true statements and propositions
If you are going to make a "truth" about MLK moral position , then making a statement that he may be an adulter based on the words of a biased group at the time is not a viable source of information
Prove to me that I should ignore words of a man who even loves his enemies...
So I want to turn your attention to this subject: "Loving Your Enemies." It's so basic to me because it is a part of my basic philosophical and theological orientation—the whole idea of love, the whole philosophy of love. In the fifth chapter of the gospel as recorded by Saint Matthew, we read these very arresting words flowing from the lips of our Lord and Master: "Ye have heard that it has been said, ‘Thou shall love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy.' But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you; that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven."
Certainly these are great words, words lifted to cosmic proportions. And over the centuries, many persons have argued that this is an extremely difficult command. Many would go so far as to say that it just isn't possible to move out into the actual practice of this glorious command. They would go on to say that this is just additional proof that Jesus was an impractical idealist who never quite came down to earth. So the arguments abound. But far from being an impractical idealist, Jesus has become the practical realist. The words of this text glitter in our eyes with a new urgency. Far from being the pious injunction of a utopian dreamer, this command is an absolute necessity for the survival of our civilization. Yes, it is love that will save our world and our civilization, love even for enemies.
The man is on a street sign in every town in America for a reason... He loved even people who bashed him without "facts" such as yourselves
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gjohnson5 said:
You are changing the subject again. Answer the question.
Zig
ziggyziggy said:
He wont, because he cant without embarrasing himself.
He probably also thinks Nelson Mandela is a fine human being.
gj, try educating yourself for a change: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...rockwell/102-5007150-9692949?v=glance&s=books
jacked clown
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I have made my opinion made about 75th and Ziggy but now I must end this thread with the OH ALMIGHTY QUOTE from like ancient rome...
"Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics...You may win but you are still retarded"
And just so there is no misunderstanding I have at least one retarded friend...
"Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics...You may win but you are still retarded"
And just so there is no misunderstanding I have at least one retarded friend...
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jacked clown said:
Thanks bor, its good to know I have at least one friend.....
Zig
There was a hurricane in New Orleans? Should I plug my TV in?
jacked clown
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Only if you didnt steal it
jacked clown said:
I didn't steal it. But I can't guarantee it wasn't stolen at one time.
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HumorMe said:
I have the t-shirt in your avi............
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redguru said:How did you get from step four to five? hopefully not by dividing by (n-n)
Shhhhhhh!!! LOL, kinda like this?
Theorem: 4 = 5
Proof:
-20 = -20
16 - 36 = 25 - 45
4^2 - 9*4 = 5^2 - 9*5
4^2 - 9*4 + 81/4 = 5^2 - 9*5 + 81/4
(4 - 9/2)^2 = (5 - 9/2)^2
4 - 9/2 = 5 - 9/2
4 = 5
QED
You're not supposed to point out the incorrect operations! Sheesh!
the bunny cult is geigh
redguru
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samoth said:Shhhhhhh!!! LOL, kinda like this?
Theorem: 4 = 5
Proof:
-20 = -20
16 - 36 = 25 - 45
4^2 - 9*4 = 5^2 - 9*5
4^2 - 9*4 + 81/4 = 5^2 - 9*5 + 81/4
(4 - 9/2)^2 = (5 - 9/2)^2
4 - 9/2 = 5 - 9/2
4 = 5
QED
You're not supposed to point out the incorrect operations! Sheesh!
I took Euclidian geometry in the 9th grade instead of the normal skate geometry course. I tried all kinds of incorrect operations to prove shit I didn't know
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my best friends bro is a Kenner fireman and he told me that the blacks have taken over the westbank ever since they let them across the missisippi river bridge to evac the city. They torched a police station and the Oakwood mall! They are shooting at people trying to evacuate people from the hospitals and the city. 19 Jefferson Parish cops have turned in their badges b/c they are outnumbered and the government hasn't stepped in to help. My friend said that he thinks if they don't send the law enforcement help in the next 42 hours, they could take the eastbank too. I don't want any of these pieces of shit even near my house.
I heard from a reputable source that I know that they are sending in the Army. I hope they do and shoot every last one of these disobedient pieces of human trash. I want to go check out my house in Kenner on Monday, and I don't want to bring a fucking gun w/ me when I do, but it looks like I have to. I will be picking up a shotgun or two when I stop in Baton Rouge before I head to Kenner on Monday.
I just got off the phone w/ my friend who told me this, so the rage is fresh in me right now.
I heard from a reputable source that I know that they are sending in the Army. I hope they do and shoot every last one of these disobedient pieces of human trash. I want to go check out my house in Kenner on Monday, and I don't want to bring a fucking gun w/ me when I do, but it looks like I have to. I will be picking up a shotgun or two when I stop in Baton Rouge before I head to Kenner on Monday.
I just got off the phone w/ my friend who told me this, so the rage is fresh in me right now.
U
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samoth said:Shhhhhhh!!! LOL, kinda like this?
Theorem: 4 = 5
Proof:
-20 = -20
16 - 36 = 25 - 45
4^2 - 9*4 = 5^2 - 9*5
4^2 - 9*4 + 81/4 = 5^2 - 9*5 + 81/4
(4 - 9/2)^2 = (5 - 9/2)^2
4 - 9/2 = 5 - 9/2
4 = 5
QED
You're not supposed to point out the incorrect operations! Sheesh!
make yourself useful and build a machine or something...
oh wait you're not an engineer.
Ralph_Wiggum said:
WTF?
Its going to suck if the national guard is forced to regulate, like hardcore regulateHumorMe said:
jacked clown
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Be careful bro
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I know man..its fucked up. I just hope the army lays the law down and stops these shitheads from getting in kenner. It kills me that they are in the city and I'm all the way over here in Houston.
edit: oh yeah, and one of the reasons they are looting the wallmarts is b/c they want the weapons in the stores! My aunt over here in houston has a friend who owns the trucking company that delivers goods to the Academy Sports stores in the area in Kenner/Wank and he said the drivers couldn't go in b/c they feared it was too dangerous. THey were carjacking people on the interstate and mugging them for money. The police are in a shortage of people and can't be everywhere at once.
edit: oh yeah, and one of the reasons they are looting the wallmarts is b/c they want the weapons in the stores! My aunt over here in houston has a friend who owns the trucking company that delivers goods to the Academy Sports stores in the area in Kenner/Wank and he said the drivers couldn't go in b/c they feared it was too dangerous. THey were carjacking people on the interstate and mugging them for money. The police are in a shortage of people and can't be everywhere at once.
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I don't see how it could suck any worse than it is already.
Regulate them....that is what they need right now.
I'm sitting here listening to a NO police scanner streaming live for two days...
Right now....
Some sort of fire at the convention center happening now.
It is a fluid situation..we've had hostile takeover of bus, a black man in a maxima that has armed robbery three folks..
people driving wrong ways..
I mean..the night is young.
Regulate them....that is what they need right now.
I'm sitting here listening to a NO police scanner streaming live for two days...
Right now....
Some sort of fire at the convention center happening now.
It is a fluid situation..we've had hostile takeover of bus, a black man in a maxima that has armed robbery three folks..
people driving wrong ways..
I mean..the night is young.
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humor me..where are you from?
Have you heard anything about EJ hospital? My cousin is a nurse over there and I'm not sure if she left yet.
Have you heard anything about EJ hospital? My cousin is a nurse over there and I'm not sure if she left yet.
Ralph_Wiggum
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hrmm guys talking about math? Why the thread hijacking?
Ralph_Wiggum
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Yep...I figured you were hijacking the thread b/c you were tired of unjustifiably defending the people who are looting b/c they are black.
Learn to differentiate b/w the fact that they are black and the fact that they are the lowest forms of human beings for shooting at people trying to evacuate/help people!
Learn to differentiate b/w the fact that they are black and the fact that they are the lowest forms of human beings for shooting at people trying to evacuate/help people!
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Boardin087 said:
People need to take back their right to speak their mind and stop worrying about brainwashed sheep regurgitating some worn out phrase or label. An idiot is an idiot, there are plenty of them on both sides of any debate. My problem is with people who have real concerns, but remain silent because they are afraid of being labeled a racist, which is the most worn out word of our generation. The PC plague has robbed people of their individuality and made them ashamed of their own race, to feel responsible for everything bad in the world. I have always had strong views about things, I know who I am and what I'm about. I will not say anything on a message board that I won't say in person, I'm a stand up guy, if I have a view about something I will not change it just because it may be unpopular. Therefore, I don't get concerned when someone calls me a (insert buzzword here). They are only reciting what they learned in school or watching MTV. Unlike many of the "tolerant" people who think I'm wrong because I think for myself, I don't feel superior to anyone different than me. I am not a moral authority or a self proclaimed expert on every topic, I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I respect people who at least believe in something, at least they think about things. I do wish that people who carry the PC flag would follow their own rules, as I do mine.
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foobar said:
He's more likely to have steroids on him than the 80 year-old grandmother who's inching through customs with her walker...so...yes, that would be effective profiling.
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HumorMe said:
is that over the internet?
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gjohnson5 said:
He is on a street sign in my town because some blacks demanded that the former name be changed "or else". The business owners were against it for various reasons including the need to change names on their paperwork and because the name MLK often is a sign that you are not in a good part of town. Plus, blacks make up about 5% of my area and while people here don't have a problem with MLK, they don't discuss him around the dinner table either. I think he was a good person and definitely influential, but he would not be on my top 10 list of people to name a street after. Now the street in my town is called by 2 names in order to satisfy everyone. Ironically, the street follows part of the path of The Trail of Tears (from the forced migration of the Cherokee Tribe to those who don't know). Since I have some Cherokee blood I would find it more appropriate to name the street after something that actually occurred there instead of naming it after someone who never even passed through the area. Again, nothing against MLK, it's just that different people have different heroes.
yeah, do you have winamp?Mavafanculo said:
if you do, go to the internet radio and type in "scanner" It will be the first thing that comes up.
Breeze said:
frucking awesome post
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gjohnson5 said:
I wouldn't like Jesse Jackson if he was the color blue, he is the ambulance chaser of civil rights. About the "Note". Is that really MLK's interpretation of the Constitution? What does life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness have to do with someone writing him a check? That sounds like a Jesse Jackson quote, he thinks he is owed a living for blackmailing people and showing up at every crisis he can attend. "We refuse to believe the bank of justice is bankrupt". That sounds like a looters philosophy to me. The mentality of entitlement, a debt that will never be paid, personal responsibility that will never be taken, an outer enemy to take the focus away from the inner self. It's true that I don't have the same reverence for these people that you do, and you probably feel the same about my heroes. I don't expect you to, and I don't think you are wrong if you don't.
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This is a general problem with education in America that tends to shy away from accomplishments and achievments of African Americans. Infact African American history doesn't get much press at all in schools except black ones.Breeze said:
Maybe this is the reason they demanded an MLK drive??
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