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Wal Mart thread

Lifterforlife

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How many of you have been seeing the commercials knocking Wal Mart, telling you not to shop there, etc. Been on TV, even websites promoting the practice.

Wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the Wal Mart issue?? I think in some way, it affects most of us, I do believe they passed a law there has to be a Wal Mart every 5 mi.! ;)
 
who cares
 
Lifterforlife said:
Wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the Wal Mart issue?? I think in some way, it affects most of us, I do believe they passed a law there has to be a Wal Mart every 5 mi.! ;)

A walmart every 5 mi., that would be great, then we could all have minimum wages jobs.
 
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We have super walmarts here. You can everything cheaper at Walmart for the same brands and products. Groceries are much cheaper. The only thing I don't like are the very classy people that shop there.
 
biteme said:
We have super walmarts here. You can everything cheaper at Walmart for the same brands and products. Groceries are much cheaper. The only thing I don't like are the very classy people that shop there.

I rather pay an extra few dollars, and support the local buisness in my area. One hand washes another, when it comes to walmart they screw small communities.
 
marqui77 said:
I rather pay an extra few dollars, and support the local buisness in my area. One hand washes another, when it comes to walmart they screw small communities.

Interesting.
 
wal-mart requirements before shopping;
1. kids at least 3 to single parent usually women -they must be sick with colds or flu
2. kids must cry for the entire duration of shopping venture
3. no parking- because everyone who shops there doesnt work
4. must fill at least 2 shopping karts, and have the 4 year old push one of them
5. no one speaks any english
6. there are two registers open for the entire store of 3500 shoppers waiting to check out.
7. security guards must be at least 75 years of age
8. shopping karts will be found in the north 40 next to Vons at the other mall
9. out of 3500 shoppers, 6000 of them are kids under age 5 with snot running down their nose.
10. wtf was i thinking...
11. bonus- theres' no music just a cleark yelling for a price check on pampers...
 
Walmart does have its upsides

Average wage for a low level worker (cashier, cart getter, stockboy) is around $8/hr, which is $3/hr more than the minimum wage. Alot of places will pay closer to $6/hr for work as a cashier or cart getter. Many low wage places offer absolutely no healthcare benefits. At least walmart has something. Most gas stations or other grocery stores will pay $6/hr and offer no healthcare, walmart pays $8/hr and offers some healthcare.

Walmart requires its chinese suppliers to follow certain human/labor rights before it is willing to buy from them. So walmart uses its market power to drive companies into bankrupty, but they also use it to enforce human and labor rights in China.

The money most people save at walmart equates into something like a $600 a year raise. Not alot, maybe $0.30 an hour for a 2000 hour/year workyear. The lower prices also stave off inflation.

Overall they get shit on more than they should. But they do do alot of bad too that shouldn't be overlooked. I'd take higher inflation and higher prices in exchange for living wages, labor unions and not driving everyone else out of business.


Hi mom
 
There are 2 within about 10 miles of each other near me. One is new and in a nice area. the other is older and in a less desireable city. It's amazing the difference in customers and employees you see at one vs the other. All the register girls at the dumpy one are ghetto and don't know the meaning of customer service or even being nice and saying hello.
 
Lifterforlife said:
How many of you have been seeing the commercials knocking Wal Mart, telling you not to shop there, etc. Been on TV, even websites promoting the practice.

Wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the Wal Mart issue?? I think in some way, it affects most of us, I do believe they passed a law there has to be a Wal Mart every 5 mi.! ;)

They're profitable because they have a good business model and the attacks by organized labor haven't stopped their expansion. If Americans really supported big labor Walmart wouldn't be as successful as they have been. I consulted with a company who sold Christmas ornaments in the heart of the "union belt" and he decided to switch from his cheap Chinese suppliers to US suppliers. Guess what, nobody wanted to pay more and due to his own company's survival he went back to his Chinese suppliers.
 
foreigngirl said:
yeah, like a week ago I saw the special on TV about Wal-Mart and it didnt look too good. They make ton of money and paying people poorly.

I shop at Costco. The CEO makes only like 300 000 a year, payes the employees like 17$ and hour and they have some good prices too. Not too shaby

not to mention the lowest turn over rate for employees of any retailer in the US. 100% opportunity for advancement - a lot of the corporate officers started in the warehouse breaking down boxes etc.

Costco's customers also have the highest average salary of any retailer.

Largest Wine retailer in the US.

With the membership you filter out the undesireable wal-mart shoppers.
 
I love walmart, I go there to waste spare time all the day. I really hate kmarts, stupid ghetto trash, that is all the place is .....
 
Basic_wonder said:
I love walmart, I go there to waste spare time all the day. I really hate kmarts, stupid ghetto trash, that is all the place is .....
Wait...that's all I've ever seen at Walmart....I go there for the good deals and not the company.
 
SoKlueles said:
walmart rocks



I only looked at this thread to see what soklu would have to say. I was very disappointed that she chimed in so late, she must have been there shopping with the van.
 
/walmart cleared the forest in front of my house talk about a heat wave in the summer with the asphault & hot car engines, then to make matters worst they movers after 2 yrs leaving a hot vacant lot----i want my forrest back at least then it was cool

RADAR
 
why do they employ elderly people?

They aren't cheaper than younger ones!?
Is it because they won't have to pay their pensions for too long?
 
anthrax said:
why do they employ elderly people?

They aren't cheaper than younger ones!?
Is it because they won't have to pay their pensions for too long?

Perhaps it's their reliability and work ethic? Most young people say screw it if they don't want to work one day. Their attitude is they can just go get another crap job somewhere. They also tend to be greeters, imagine two nineteen year olds playing grab ass instead of greeting customers.
 
jenscats5 said:


this sight was funny to me considering almost all of those same facts are true with my employer. The main difference is the health care part, where I have great health care. On that note though I don't believe someone working at walmart should get the same health care as a soldier who is putting their life on the line. Thus I laugh at all the facts about Walmart when the nations largest employer is guilty of all the same violations, yet I don't hear anyone screaming pay SFMONSTER more money.
 
SoKlueles said:
having a job at walmart=at least keeping you off welfare
Actually over the vast majority of wal mart workers are on food stamps and medicare / medicade becuase wally world doesn't pay them above the poverty line.

You're actually supporting the welfare state by shopping at wally world.
 
it is a good place to go if u have some time to kill

go to a 24 hour open on o jus go @ 11 pm

u see the real winners.




ok i shop there since they all have the all cleaning supplies etx and that type og shit
 
WODIN said:
Actually over the vast majority of wal mart workers are on food stamps and medicare / medicade becuase wally world doesn't pay them above the poverty line.

You're actually supporting the welfare state by shopping at wally world.
id love to see your stats showing the "vast majority" of walmart employees are on medicaid, i call bullshit on that
 
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17647

"One of the most telling of all the criticisms of Wal-Mart is to be found in a February 2004 report by the Democratic Staff of the House Education and Workforce Committee. In analyzing Wal-Mart's success in holding employee compensation at low levels, the report assesses the costs to US taxpayers of employees who are so badly paid that they qualify for government assistance even under the less than generous rules of the federal welfare system. For a two-hundred-employee Wal-Mart store, the government is spending $108,000 a year for children's health care; $125,000 a year in tax credits and deductions for low-income families; and $42,000 a year in housing assistance. The report estimates that a two-hundred-employee Wal-Mart store costs federal taxpayers $420,000 a year, or about $2,103 per Wal-Mart employee. That translates into a total annual welfare bill of $2.5 billion for Wal-Mart's 1.2 million US employees.

Wal-Mart is also a burden on state governments. According to a study by the Institute for Labor and Employment at the University of California, Berkeley, in 2003 California taxpayers subsidized $20.5 million worth of medical care for Wal-Mart employees. In Georgia ten thousand children of Wal-Mart employees were enrolled in the state's program for needy children in 2003, with one in four Wal-Mart employees having a child in the program.[9]"
 
You Wal-Mart bashers need to take your gospel to the unwashed masses!

that way, there will be a shorter wait and less trailer trash to see when I shop there.
 
WODIN said:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17647

"One of the most telling of all the criticisms of Wal-Mart is to be found in a February 2004 report by the Democratic Staff of the House Education and Workforce Committee. In analyzing Wal-Mart's success in holding employee compensation at low levels, the report assesses the costs to US taxpayers of employees who are so badly paid that they qualify for government assistance even under the less than generous rules of the federal welfare system. For a two-hundred-employee Wal-Mart store, the government is spending $108,000 a year for children's health care; $125,000 a year in tax credits and deductions for low-income families; and $42,000 a year in housing assistance. The report estimates that a two-hundred-employee Wal-Mart store costs federal taxpayers $420,000 a year, or about $2,103 per Wal-Mart employee. That translates into a total annual welfare bill of $2.5 billion for Wal-Mart's 1.2 million US employees.

Wal-Mart is also a burden on state governments. According to a study by the Institute for Labor and Employment at the University of California, Berkeley, in 2003 California taxpayers subsidized $20.5 million worth of medical care for Wal-Mart employees. In Georgia ten thousand children of Wal-Mart employees were enrolled in the state's program for needy children in 2003, with one in four Wal-Mart employees having a child in the program.[9]"


thats not saying the vast majority of their employees are on medicaid

that report is also assuming the person is single, what if they arent single and their spouses income brings them above the poverty line

your bringing down walmart which i hate just on the basis that its a redneck store, but their wages are going to be better than someone that works at a fast food restaurant or is a cashier at a gas station or a 7-11

what is walmart supposed to pay these unskilled workers? $20 an hour?
 
hamstershaver said:
thats not saying the vast majority of their employees are on medicaid

that report is also assuming the person is single, what if they arent single and their spouses income brings them above the poverty line

your bringing down walmart which i hate just on the basis that its a redneck store, but their wages are going to be better than someone that works at a fast food restaurant or is a cashier at a gas station or a 7-11

what is walmart supposed to pay these unskilled workers? $20 an hour?
They pay their associates minimum wage.

The average associate works less than a 40 hour week.

Walmart's insurance plan is a employee buy in plan and the average associate can't afford to pay the $4000 - $5000 premiums per year that the plan requires. If they're not married and do not have a spouse with a good job, there only choice is medicare/medicade.

90% of Walmarts employees are associates.

I'm just stating the facts of the situation. I don't care what they pay the stupid idiots who work there.

It is a redneck store.

You go to a walmart and do a survey of people who watch nascar and listen to country music and it will be in the 90% range.
 
one thing about the "mart" is they are the most awsome guys in the buisness regarding supply chain management..JIT and all the goodies..
 
I went to Wal-Mart with my parents. My dad has bad knees and hips and he has to have one of those scooters with a cart attached to it. My dad almost ran over a rude little old lady who cut in front of him in line.
 
They have this place in Oregon called "Fred Myers." It's like Wal Mart done right. Apparently been here forever, they are all over the place, but name brands as well as store brand and they actually have customer service.

The locals are all up in arms about someone trying to open up a WalMart in the southeast side. Bumper stickers, the whole deal; some guy owns a lot that used to be a big Goodwill (?!) and he's trying to pressure the town to buy it to keep him from selling it to WalMart. The whole city is about small business and "buy locally" so they really think of WalMart as the devil incarnate.
 
I love wal-mart. I can get everything i need in one stop cheap. Also around here its the place to hook up with hot young chicks. Luckily everyone speaks english and its not the ghetto. But lots of old bastards who work there get in the way when you first walk in. I am serious about the chicks though. Its like a hang out here. lol If i was not married I would hang out there. hahahahah Lots of hotties.
 
Wal-Mart’s business model of “everyday low prices” is dependent upon eliminating the inefficiencies from the entire supply chain, it must consistently offer the very best price on every product it sells, and the only way to do that effectively is to relentlessly cut costs. Vendors that can make themselves efficient enough to supply the system are rewarded with vastly higher volumes, but you can’t make up a loss on volume. In the world of Wal-Mart, only the most efficient vendors survive, and they do so on razor-thin margins.

Becoming a Wal-Mart vendor is a matter of choice. If a company can not become efficient enough to compete head-to-head with the most efficient vendors in the market, it shouldn’t agree to supply Wal-Mart. Period. “Wal-Mart or nothing”, however, is a false proposition. If you don’t like their low-price strategy, pick another one.

In the same vein, becoming a Wal-Mart employee is a choice. There are a lot of other companies that pay ~$8.50/hr if that’s the economic value of your skills. Stocking shelves is not a skill that is difficult to acquire, nor is there a shortage of people in the world willing to do it. Don't expect Wal-Mart to pay more for anything than it's worth, including labor.

Continuing to purchase products at Wal-Mart is also choice. If you don’t like the company, for whatever reason, don’t shop there. You vote with your dollars.

Wal-Mart has gained its economic power due to massive productivity and efficiency gains developed by employees who chose to work there, selling products produced by vendors who chose to supply them, sold to consumers who chose to buy them. It’s a choice-driven model.

I understand the unease of dealing with such a large economic force. The complexity of the issue is immense, and it's easy to see aspects of the company that don't point to utopia. But it is unjust to imply that a company is a threat to the community simply because it does not coincide with your ideals of human and societal development, whatever they may be. It appears that Wal-Mart's economic clout is a matter of justice, the justice of the aggregation of free and voluntary choices of consumer, vendor, and employee that we commonly call the free market.

Prove Wal-Mart used force or fraud against any individual (consumer, vendor, or employee), and you have a limited case. (Which can be settled in a court of law.) Otherwise, you have no defensible reason to call foul.
 
LOL. So how much stock do you own with Wal-Mart?

Jayhawk21 said:
Wal-Mart’s business model of “everyday low prices” is dependent upon eliminating the inefficiencies from the entire supply chain, it must consistently offer the very best price on every product it sells, and the only way to do that effectively is to relentlessly cut costs. Vendors that can make themselves efficient enough to supply the system are rewarded with vastly higher volumes, but you can’t make up a loss on volume. In the world of Wal-Mart, only the most efficient vendors survive, and they do so on razor-thin margins.

Becoming a Wal-Mart vendor is a matter of choice. If a company can not become efficient enough to compete head-to-head with the most efficient vendors in the market, it shouldn’t agree to supply Wal-Mart. Period. “Wal-Mart or nothing”, however, is a false proposition. If you don’t like their low-price strategy, pick another one.

In the same vein, becoming a Wal-Mart employee is a choice. There are a lot of other companies that pay ~$8.50/hr if that’s the economic value of your skills. Stocking shelves is not a skill that is difficult to acquire, nor is there a shortage of people in the world willing to do it. Don't expect Wal-Mart to pay more for anything than it's worth, including labor.

Continuing to purchase products at Wal-Mart is also choice. If you don’t like the company, for whatever reason, don’t shop there. You vote with your dollars.

Wal-Mart has gained its economic power due to massive productivity and efficiency gains developed by employees who chose to work there, selling products produced by vendors who chose to supply them, sold to consumers who chose to buy them. It’s a choice-driven model.

I understand the unease of dealing with such a large economic force. The complexity of the issue is immense, and it's easy to see aspects of the company that don't point to utopia. But it is unjust to imply that a company is a threat to the community simply because it does not coincide with your ideals of human and societal development, whatever they may be. It appears that Wal-Mart's economic clout is a matter of justice, the justice of the aggregation of free and voluntary choices of consumer, vendor, and employee that we commonly call the free market.

Prove Wal-Mart used force or fraud against any individual (consumer, vendor, or employee), and you have a limited case. (Which can be settled in a court of law.) Otherwise, you have no defensible reason to call foul.
 
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