Waited two years, ready, please critique

[EricG]

Hey guys,

I came to this board two years ago, i was pretty over weight, (240+ lbs) now after two years of diet and exersize im at 190, not sure for body fat but very low. (i am 21 1/2 years old)

I've been reading everything on these boards for the past two years and i believe im ready for my first cycle.

Week 1-4 D-bol, 30mg a day (Teragon Labs)

Week 1-12 Test E 500 mg per week ( Syrus labs)

+ pct i have nolva on hand


I have a few questions, first for the d-bol there 10mg tablets, so for dosing i should take 1 when i wake up, one around lunch, and one afternoon sometime?

And to keep the bloat/sides down should i run 10mg of nolva every day?



For diet im going to be running a clean 4500-5000 calorie a day, i'm still tweaking at it, but should be ready soon.

Suplements i'll be taking is multi-vitamen, vitamin e, milk thistle and ON pro complex for protein powder.

Any suggestions/recomandations or opinions of what you think would be greatly apreciated,

E

 

[georgie24]

sounds like a good plan!!!!

for bloat grab some AIFM keep nolva incase nips flare

 

[EricG]

So if I run AIFM across my cycle I wont need to use Nolva t'ill the end of my cycle for PCT correct?

Sorry just want to make sure lol

 

[NickyE3]

im ur age bro and I think im too young to start

 

[solidspine]

How tall are you?

I think you are too young.

 

[mr.nitro]

I predicted these responces before I even opened this thread.

 

[EricG]

im ur age bro and I think im too young to start

Maybe we are, but the general comments i see here was to wait t'ill i was 21, , i waited almost two years t'ill i was old enough and had enough knowledge of what im doing. I think that atleast that i take peoples advice and keep myself informed, everything should go well.


and solidspine i'm 6'1

E

 

[ole farte']

how many yrs u been lifting, how heavy are you going on ur lifts?

 

[EricG]

how many yrs u been lifting, how heavy are you going on ur lifts?

I have been lifting for almost 4 years. Although to be honest only the past 2 1/2 that i took it very seriously.

E

 

[H_T_]

you can wikipedia any steroid and find out half lives and such. D-bol is about 6 hours a crack. being an "older" juicer, i always recommend waiting when i here young fellas, under 25, wanting to juice. it's just because your test levels are so high and will make significant, retainable gains for a long time. if you juice, there is a chance you could wind up smaller than when you started if you abruptly stop. and as nice as pct sounds, it just doesn't live up to the rep. else, everyone would only be doing 6 week cycles, twice a year.

 

[EricG]

you can wikipedia any steroid and find out half lives and such. D-bol is about 6 hours a crack. being an "older" juicer, i always recommend waiting when i here young fellas, under 25, wanting to juice. it's just because your test levels are so high and will make significant, retainable gains for a long time. if you juice, there is a chance you could wind up smaller than when you started if you abruptly stop. and as nice as pct sounds, it just doesn't live up to the rep. else, everyone would only be doing 6 week cycles, twice a year.

I have no plans of stopping suddently, but i thought at 21 + if i did proper PCT everything would go back to normal?

I have access to HCG and clomid as well if thats better/needed.

Also, would doing this at this age make me sterile , or with proper PCT everything go back to normal?

E

 

[needtogetaas]

 

[Primordial Performance]

ericg,

Id cut the cycle length down to eight weeks. You will probably plateau by the 8th week anyway at that 500mg/wk dosage. No need to keep on the AAS if the gains have stopped.

When I hear about people taking Dbol and then asking “how to take care of bloat”, it makes me bang my head against the wall. If your concerned with bloat, don’t use Dbol. It makes no sense to use an estrogenic drug like dbol, just to use another liver-toxic drug to counter the effects. Try Winny, (or Anavar if you have the extra cash.) A Test and Anavar combo is thee' most effective combo for quality muslce with minimal sides IMO.

Finally, don’t forget your hCG midway through your cycle. 250iu EOD for 3 weeks should be enough to prevent your testis from atrophy. Don’t neglect the balls bro, trust me. If you follow this protocol, Dermacrine for PCT will be all you need.

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

ericg,

Id cut the cycle length down to eight weeks. You will probably plateau by the 8th week anyway at that 500mg/wk dosage. No need to keep on the AAS if the gains have stopped.

When I hear about people taking Dbol and then asking “how to take care of bloat”, it makes me bang my head against the wall. If your concerned with bloat, don’t use Dbol. It makes no sense to use an estrogenic drug like dbol, just to use another liver-toxic drug to counter the effects. Try Winny, (or Anavar if you have the extra cash.) A Test and Anavar combo is thee' most effective combo for quality muslce with minimal sides IMO.

Finally, don’t forget your hCG midway through your cycle. 250iu EOD for 3 weeks should be enough to prevent your testis from atrophy. Don’t neglect the balls bro, trust me. If you follow this protocol, Dermacrine for PCT will be all you need.

-Pp

well almost what i said.lol

 

[NickyE3]

well almost what i said.lol

LOL
"almost"

 

[EricG]

ericg,

Id cut the cycle length down to eight weeks. You will probably plateau by the 8th week anyway at that 500mg/wk dosage. No need to keep on the AAS if the gains have stopped.

When I hear about people taking Dbol and then asking “how to take care of bloat”, it makes me bang my head against the wall. If your concerned with bloat, don’t use Dbol. It makes no sense to use an estrogenic drug like dbol, just to use another liver-toxic drug to counter the effects. Try Winny, (or Anavar if you have the extra cash.) A Test and Anavar combo is thee' most effective combo for quality muslce with minimal sides IMO.

Finally, don’t forget your hCG midway through your cycle. 250iu EOD for 3 weeks should be enough to prevent your testis from atrophy. Don’t neglect the balls bro, trust me. If you follow this protocol, Dermacrine for PCT will be all you need.

-Pp

Thanks alot for the post, helped alot

I wasnt thinking of using Nolva to keep down the bloat, i just thought to keep sides down considering my age.

Thanks alot for the advice on the HCG i didn't know you did it half way threw the cycle as well,

Much apreciated,

E

 

[Primordial Performance]

Thanks alot for the post, helped alot

I wasnt thinking of using Nolva to keep down the bloat, i just thought to keep sides down considering my age.

Thanks alot for the advice on the HCG i didn't know you did it half way threw the cycle as well,

Much apreciated,

E

Yes, do the hCG halfway through the cycle. Dont use it for PCT.

Keep nolva on hand just incase you flare up. Otherwise, dont touch it.

-Pp

 

[EricG]

alright, sounds good.

Thanks for the help Pp

E

 

[needtogetaas]

LOL
"almost"

pm's bro pm's

 

[EricG]

pm's bro pm's

lol i just realized now you sent me one, thanks for the info.

E

 

[dsh89]

Nolva will not keep bloat off. It is a SERM not an AI. Use Arimadex or AIFM to keep bloat off. I would got the 10 weeks bro. It is a first time for you so you should grow the entire time. Dbol is strong and is gonna give you some bloat bro it is just how it goes.