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littleT

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Hey ladies..
Got another question..
So I am 4 weeks into Var @20mg a day and going on week 3 of primo 2wice a week at .5cc..
I have been battling a cold lately I usually get bad sore throats when sick...I can't tell if my voice is cracking or what...I have a lingering flu symtoms nothing major..
I notice my voice kinda squeeled when hitting a high pitch...my voice is an annoying high tone usually..its been kinda dry and have some film I have to clear out...
It hasnt broke like a 12 yr old in puberty..lol
Are there any crazy obvious signs?
I can't tell if its my cold or my goodies changing my voice.

I am showing no other side effects currently
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littleT said:
Hey ladies..
Got another question..
So I am 4 weeks into Var @20mg a day and going on week 3 of primo 2wice a week at .5cc..
I have been battling a cold lately I usually get bad sore throats when sick...I can't tell if my voice is cracking or what...I have a lingering flu symtoms nothing major..
I notice my voice kinda squeeled when hitting a high pitch...my voice is an annoying high tone usually..its been kinda dry and have some film I have to clear out...
It hasnt broke like a 12 yr old in puberty..lol
Are there any crazy obvious signs?
I can't tell if its my cold or my goodies changing my voice.

I am showing no other side effects currently
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Others may agree w me Lil T, but if you're not sure I'd get off it until you are sure it was just a cold

The voice changes are not reversible
 
I would stop immediately as it can't be reversed. My voice has broken slightly and I'm stuck with that I myself weighed up the pro's a d cons before I decided to carry on , and mine started with cold like symptoms during a Deca cycle but I still carried on and after a month the cold didn't go away since then my voice has been Broken.
 
I'll chime in with a controversial response. :) IME, voice changes can be reversed but only if they are small changes and if you go to voice therapy.

I had some voice problems, arguably from gear use or perhaps bc of my job (I have to talk a lot at my work). Scratchy throat, pitch deepening, cracking... The whole nine yards. I put up with it for about a year before i went to a throat specialist first to have my throat examined and vocal chords inspected. There was some inflammation of those chords, which explained the deepening of my voice. Was recommended some voice therapy for about 15 weeks. I learned how to use my voice more appropriately through a variety of techniques and managed to "reverse" my man voice. :) My pitch range improved (I sound like a girl again) and I dont have any of the throat problems I used to have.

That being said, if I did start to feel that scratchy throat thing again while "on," I'd stop the cycle bc re-learning how to talk is hard work and requires some serious effort. I did that once and wouldn't want to go through it again. :)
 
Dmk...
Did u have a slight tickle that wld make u cough? I'm hoping its the lingering cold ..



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Yeah mine did start with a tickle in my throat , I read up on the therapy Fc mentioned and it does Sound that it can reverse the damage tbh I know in the back of my mind that if I need to do this therapy it's there but ATM im not too bothered because I know I will be doing more cycles. But you might think totally different to me sometimes the slightest change is enough to scare some people.
 
Dmk,
What do u mean broken? Like when u loose yr voice for a high pitch..like when ur excited about something voice?
I'm not quite understanding how its described..I do not want to be paranoid..I Wish I wasn't sick..

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Hey, everyone....well wanted to give my two cents but I was on primo and everything was good until that forth week and the cold n voice cracking n soreness made me jump off quick...I wouldn't chance it if I was u.....

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Dmk,
Thanks so much for the patience with my ?s. I can handle the raspy I just don't wanna found like a real man..do they get that deep or just raspy..
I dunno if this will b my last cycle or not..its my first and knew these were the risks. Oii ;)

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littlet....your cycle is pretty heavy dosing for a first cycle and I'd be willing to bet it's not the cold. I've had the sore throat, tickle, cough, breaking like puberty and some of it improves but not all of it, if you keep going. I haven't looked into any type of voice therapy that fc suggested either but have changes that have stayed. If you don't want to chance it, I'd stop both and see if it clears. Then I'd pick one or the other, var or primo, and start there. I'd drop your var dose in half, at least...some women start with 5 mgs/day...and monitor that way. By doing them both at once you just can't tell what does what. I'm great at 10 mgs of var but 3 weeks on primo and my voice went.

Good luck! :)
 
caligirl85 said:
littlet....your cycle is pretty heavy dosing for a first cycle and I'd be willing to bet it's not the cold. I've had the sore throat, tickle, cough, breaking like puberty and some of it improves but not all of it, if you keep going. I haven't looked into any type of voice therapy that fc suggested either but have changes that have stayed. If you don't want to chance it, I'd stop both and see if it clears. Then I'd pick one or the other, var or primo, and start there. I'd drop your var dose in half, at least...some women start with 5 mgs/day...and monitor that way. By doing them both at once you just can't tell what does what. I'm great at 10 mgs of var but 3 weeks on primo and my voice went.

Good luck! :)
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Agree

Sorry for the delay!
 
Hey chic. Yeah mine is just like Cg mentioned. It's kinda worse on cycle then It sounds deeper when I come of cycle it eases and if I try to shout its higher pitched ,
I do agree with Cg that for first dose it's maybe a bit high ,
Also cali's advice bout dropping both until u see improvement then starting one or the other at lower dose is great advice and I would consider doing this if your worried about the permanent damage. I wish you the best of luck please keep us posted.

Donna
 
I am a minimalist so keep that in mind when you read this:

I would stop. 20mgs of var is double the highest I would recomend.
Stacking was a mistake for your first cycle. Basic science dictates you take one substance at a time and document how your body responds. If you don't you have no idea what is doing what. Is one working and not the other? Are both working but which is doing what?
Luckily, it sounds like you caught it early enough to stop anything permanent.
Something I always recomend for women also is to have your lipids and liver values checked before, during and after a cycle. Most women don't realize that the sides they get are WORSE than what men do in those areas. It can be a real eye opener.
If it were me I would stop everything. Then later on when I was ready to jump in again I would start with 5mgs of var. The reality is you will get great results if your diet and routine are top notch.
*This is all goal dependant. 5mgs may sound small but my friend is an IFBB Pro Womans BBer and she has never done more then 10mgs with a little clen before shows.
**Some people do respond better than others but my feeling is start low and you can always go up the next time. That is better than starting high and wishing you could do it all over again.
Best of luck and please let us know how everything goes for you!
 
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Hey everyone!
Thanks for the advice! Lots of luuuuv ..
So I discontinued on the 31st evening.. so I will see what the deal is.
Am kinda bummed tho

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Yeah that's understandable chic but better been safe than sorry. You can start again it's all bout trial and error!

Best of luck !
 
Use this time to post up daily what you eat and drink. Let everyone dial it in for you. It will turbo charge your results while you are "off" and will help even more if you decide to go back on.
 
Britt
The primo was .5cc twice a week..I was in week 3 when I noticed my voice "hurting" like i was loosing it almost..

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@ cutie
I haven't seen a change better or worse..probably too soon?

Thoughts of t3 and albuterol?

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I ordered another cycle of T3 and albuterol 3 days ago. I had recently given a couple I know a dosage chart on taking the two together. They loved it and had great results. The best part is they had great results and don't work near as hard as us women here.

Brittneyleigh

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