video of soldier tossing puppy off cliff

[nimbus]

you seriously can't compare an insect to a puppy. most insects are pests, not domesticated animals. You don't have a puppy sneaking into your kitchen and stealing your food

and what does hunting for spot have to do with cruelly killing something? Hunting is probably more humane than that, although i don't agree with hunting for sport period anyways. Most of the time hunters aren't shooting babies, either

terrible parallel

what makes something a pest; that word is so subjective.. a sugar ant in your house doesn't actually do anything but pretty much everyone kills them and calls them pests. also a puppy would steal food any chance it got, so so much for your shitty argument

and what difference does it make if it's a baby?

 

[calveless wonder]

what makes something a pest; that word is so subjective.. a sugar ant in your house doesn't actually do anything but pretty much everyone kills them and calls them pests. also a puppy would steal food any chance it got, so so much for your shitty argument

and what difference does it make if it's a baby?

read my edit, nigga

and it's not a shitty argument. your argument is completely off base. use a parallel that makes sense if you want to be that condescending

puppies don't invade your shit, and sneak inside your home. whether they "would" or not is irrevelant. Most people don't kill insects that are not inside their house and/or sucking their blood. Do dogs/cats get favorable treatment because they're cute? Sure...but they're also much more friendly, loving towards people than most other creatures

please, stop trying to play devils advocate just to play devils advocate

 

[calveless wonder]

oh...

and termites aren't pests?
mosquitos aren't pests?
cockroaches?
fire ants?

Pretty much the most commonly killed insects.

if there was just 1 single ant, i don't think anyone would be complaining about sugar ants.

when there's 10,000....please tell me you'll be cool with them sharing rent

 

[nimbus]

read my edit, nigga

and it's not a shitty argument. your argument is completely off base. use a parallel that makes sense if you want to be that condescending

puppies don't invade your shit, and sneak inside your home. whether they "would" or not is irrevelant. Most people don't kill insects that are not inside their house and/or sucking their blood. Do dogs/cats get favorable treatment because they're cute? Sure...but they're also much more friendly, loving towards people than most other creatures

please, stop trying to play devils advocate just to play devils advocate

yo i honestly dont give a shit about that puppy, and i seriorusly just can't believe people want to ruin this guys life for this when i guarantee everyone in this thread has done as bad or worse. You just can't rationally hold animals in such high regard in some cases like this and yet be happy living in a society where animals are needlessly destroyed...some are killed to make accessories, frogs are killed just so they can be dissected by 5th graders, deer are killed as trophies on hunting shows, people kill little spider in the corner of their house that can't do anything.

I just wish somebody would come out and say they only care because it's a cute puppy. If this video was the same marine shooting a pidgeon, there would not be 1/1000000 of the reaction

 

[nimbus]

oh...

and termites aren't pests?
mosquitos aren't pests?
cockroaches?
fire ants?

Pretty much the most commonly killed insects.

if there was just 1 single ant, i don't think anyone would be complaining about sugar ants.

when there's 10,000....please tell me you'll be cool with them sharing rent

It doesn't matter what the most commonly killed insects are. If you've even killed one insect for no good reason, or like used a worm as bait to go fishing for sport, you have no business saying this guy should die

 

[heatherrae]

Yeah, I value a pup way more highly than a fire ant. No shit, right? Everyone does.

I would have thought it was too sad if he just had to kill it and he did it quickly and painlessly by shooting it in the head, but I wouldn't have thought he was a bad guy. It was the fact that he took joy in its torture and misery that makes him monstrous.

 

[Megalomaniac]

It doesn't matter what the most commonly killed insects are. If you've even killed one insect for no good reason, or like used a worm as bait to go fishing for sport, you have no business saying this guy should die

Nimbus I'm with you on this one, well kind of. I really don't give a shit about the puppy. I do give a shit that the guy enjoyed throwing it off a cliff for no reason at all but a joke. Let's say it was a stray puppy that was around their camp and it had some potential illness. Sure in that situation there is a reason to kill it, just don't do it for a joke and sure as shit don't do it and video it. These guys are their to do a job and not everything is pretty in that job. What is bad is the dudes mentality while doing it, he needs to wake up. Do the job and get home, that is how it is suppose to be done. It isn't suppose to be go over there and do shit like that. I killed a lot of dogs while I was over there but they were all for a reason and the entire time it was for the job and I was just trying to get back home.

 

[SpyWizard]

yep. We shoudl also allow puppy killers to also rape girls, kill civilians, and kill their sergeants. All on my dime.

Hey "shit happens" right? You can use PTSD as an excuse for anything! Woo Hoo. Free the Abu Gharib defendants!

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they were following orders, and in this case, and according to the UCMJ and the Geneva convention, it is a legal order, so to refuse during a time or war they'd get at least 30 yrs in prison..

did you become outraged in the thread of the men and women being stoned to death.??

not to point you out.. just saying

 

[heatherrae]

Nimbus I'm with you on this one, well kind of. I really don't give a shit about the puppy. I do give a shit that the guy enjoyed throwing it off a cliff for no reason at all but a joke. Let's say it was a stray puppy that was around their camp and it had some potential illness. Sure in that situation there is a reason to kill it, just don't do it for a joke and sure as shit don't do it and video it. These guys are their to do a job and not everything is pretty in that job. What is bad is the dudes mentality while doing it, he needs to wake up. Do the job and get home, that is how it is suppose to be done. It isn't suppose to be go over there and do shit like that. I killed a lot of dogs while I was over there but they were all for a reason and the entire time it was for the job and I was just trying to get back home.

exactly the point I was making. Well said.

 

[JayC9]

A dead human isn't either.

I'd have to differ with you there, wars have been started and fought over the killing of a single human, don't recall the last time a nation went to war over a dead puppy. Point being the value of human life is far greater than that of an animal, which you may consider a loveable pet, others may consider vermin and in Korea is a local delicacy. Your reaction is emotional rather than intellectual, it's called selective reasoning.