Vicodin and gear

[fateful]

I have a similiar story, I've had the back of my skull cut open 8 times in 7 years (5 surgeries were at mayo clinic in Rochchester, Minn) Had tumors in my middle ear cavity that kept returning bilaterly, luckily they weren't cancerous. Lost all off my hearing in my left ear and half in my right. I've been taking pain killers for over 10 years. Vicoden, lortab, percodone, morphine pills. Mostly vicodin though, and mostly unperscribed for the last 3.5 years (last surgery was 4 years ago) Anyway everytime my friends or current girlfriend thinks I have a problem I stop for about a month just to prove them wrong, but always make some excuse up to start on them again.

Like others said I get grumpy and moody without them. When I had the surgeries I was taking 10 - 14 a day 750 mg. I noticed if I take them recreational I average 4 - 5 a day which I think is considerly better ( still stupid but better) I've taken them on a cycle of deca, test, whin and eq and didnt notice any difference. though I've never had my liver checked and to be honest I'm afraid to. I stopped taking them for about 2 weeks now and am hoping to stay off, but as most of you know my demons are some times stronger than I am.

Good luck with everything, a good friend of mine lost a leg right below the knee 7-8 years ago and you would never know it. Built and strong fucker to boot, he doesnt let it slow him down a bit. Actually got a job making prosthesis at a company. Peace

 

[bosnyak]

Bro, watch your kidneys, hydrocodone and acetominiphen are very toxic on the kidneys, then adding gear still dont help. If your urine turns cloudy cut back before it turns brown, or worse.

Acetaminophen (in the Vicodan) is toxic to both the kidneys and the liver, but especially the liver - would not be a good idea to mix it with oral steroids. For more info look here:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic819.htm

 

[icon05]

i might just have to take the pain for a while, i need to get back into my size before i start stunting again, just rideing period.
thanks for all the advice,

 

[BigCracker]

The more I read about motorcycle injuries on here the better selling my Hayabusa sounds. I could buy an assload of GH with that cash. Hmmmmmm...

 

[fateful]

Yeah got rid of my Hayabusa cpl years back after a close call with a punk in a mustang that loss control trying to show his girl he could be faster than a bike. After having a kid you have to make choices like that. Good luck again man. Peace

 

[nsashbl01]

Icon. I don't drink but do take a 10/325, (sometimes 1/2) for rec purposes. I have used them during cycles but never more than a few a week at most. My blood work has always been perfect. I'm really carefull though. Take Liverite when I take Vic's and only take the Vic's that have 325 Acetaminophen. I'd try to kick the pain killers, bust your ass in the gym and then run some cycles. Set some goals and stick to it. I have many friends that are hooked on pain killers, it's a bad thing in the long run. Good luck!

 

[icon05]

Icon. I don't drink but do take a 10/325, (sometimes 1/2) for rec purposes. I have used them during cycles but never more than a few a week at most. My blood work has always been perfect. I'm really carefull though. Take Liverite when I take Vic's and only take the Vic's that have 325 Acetaminophen. I'd try to kick the pain killers, bust your ass in the gym and then run some cycles. Set some goals and stick to it. I have many friends that are hooked on pain killers, it's a bad thing in the long run. Good luck!

i am not saying that i wont get hooked, when the took me of the percosets(sp) i did have slight withdrawels. then they stuck me on vics,
but yeah what i am starting next week is, i am going to rotate one day i will take my vics, the next day just th ibprofen, then for the following eeks increase, the ibporfen days

 

[Indy]

Acetaminophen (in the Vicodan) is toxic to both the kidneys and the liver, but especially the liver - would not be a good idea to mix it with oral steroids. For more info look here:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic819.htm

Very true, but you cannot tell it's affecting the liver until 1. it's too late, or 2. you have blood work. When it starts affecting the kidney's at least you get warning signs, and they would come long before the liver is damaged, bottom line is though, you are correct, watch the liver too.