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Vicoden Addiction

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A very close buddy of mine is addicted to Vicoden. We used to just mess around with them at first like 4 or 5 years ago. Take a few on the weekends. Takem when were drunk. Or takem when we came across them.

But now. For the past year or so hes been taking up to (30) 750mg vic's a day. He's tried quitting several times but when he doesnt take them he gets bad withdrawal symptoms. He says the day he doesnt wake up and pop 4 he has runny diarreah. Stomach pains. Bad muscle cramping. Cant sleep.

Anyone have any advice on how to help him? or words of encouragement or how i can help? He said he wants to do this without checking into a clinic b/c he just got married and he doesnt want his wife to know.

He's gotten real skinny too. Dark circles around his eyes. The kid is a slave to these things now. I can't believes its come to this.

Thanks in advance bros.
 
Individuals who become addicted to hydrocodone can be treated. Options for effectively treating hydrocodone addiction are drawn from research on treating heroin addiction.

Prolonged use of these drugs eventually changes the brain in fundamental and long-lasting ways, explaining why people cannot just quit on their own, and why treatment is essential. In effect, drugs of abuse take over the brain's normal pleasure and motivational systems, moving drug use to the highest priority in the individual's motivational hierarchy, thereby overriding all other motivations and drives. These brain changes, then, are responsible for the compulsion to seek and use drugs that we have come to define as addiction. This is likely the state people are in when they are reportedly "doctor shopping," feigning illnesses, and stealing from pharmacies to obtain the drug.

Fortunately, we have a number of effective options to treat hydrocodone addiction to prescription opioids and to help manage the sometime severe withdrawal syndrome that accompanies sudden cessation of drug use. These options are drawn from experience and clinical research regarding the treatment of heroin addiction. They include medications, such as methadone and LAAM (levo-alpha-acetyl-methadol), and behavioral counseling approaches.
Typically, the patient is medically detoxified before any treatment approach is begun. Although detoxification in itself is not a treatment for hydrocodone addiction, it can help relieve withdrawal symptoms while the patient adjusts to being drug free. Once the patient completes detoxification, the treatment provider must then work with the patient to determine which course of treatment would best suit the needs of the patient.
 
He needs to admitt himself bro, if he is in fact taking 750mg a day he will not make it through the detoxification process without medical attention. Tell him to suck it up and fix the problem before it starts destroying other aspects of his life.
 
Dunk said:
A very close buddy of mine is addicted to Vicoden. We used to just mess around with them at first like 4 or 5 years ago. Take a few on the weekends. Takem when were drunk. Or takem when we came across them.

But now. For the past year or so hes been taking up to (30) 750mg vic's a day. He's tried quitting several times but when he doesnt take them he gets bad withdrawal symptoms. He says the day he doesnt wake up and pop 4 he has runny diarreah. Stomach pains. Bad muscle cramping. Cant sleep.

Anyone have any advice on how to help him? or words of encouragement or how i can help? He said he wants to do this without checking into a clinic b/c he just got married and he doesnt want his wife to know.

He's gotten real skinny too. Dark circles around his eyes. The kid is a slave to these things now. I can't believes its come to this.

Thanks in advance bros.
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IMO he should be upfront and honest at this point with his wife who could potentially be his biggest support in beating this addiction. having social supports (especially IN the home) is very important.

that said, he really should seek medical care for his detox and withdrawal. Detoxc from opiates can be life threatening if not done under a physician's care. Seriously. He really should not try to detox on his own.

http://www.vicodin-addiction.com/vicodin-detox.htm
 
Wow so looks like he is going to NEED treatment then huh?

He tried to tell me that taking 30 a day has no real bad side effects.

I wouldnt mind scaring him with possible ailments that can come from this abusive behavior.

Hes tried taking like 1 in the morning. 1 in the afternoon and 1 to go to bed. But that lasts like a week or 2 before he gradually is back to taking 20-30.

He sincerely wants to quit but its tough b/c he cant function day to day without being noticeably sick.
 
yes, he needs treatment. also, like I said, it is likely he has some serious liver damage, depending on how much and how long he's been abusing the drug.
 
Percription drug abuse has always been looked at to a lesser degree then street drug addiction simply because it was prescribed by a physician. It is in fact just as serious. If he doesn't check himself in I would stage an intervention.
 
I would guess he was in an accident that initially needed the prescription, now he's staging a phantom pain.
 
damn dunk that is a expensive habit.
his liver has got to be wrecked.
i would do a intervention with in-patient cousnling.
think how bad you would feel if you didn't intervene and something tragic happened.
godspeed good bor
 
Possible intervention if he is in denial and treatment....inpatient or intensive outpatient after detox
 
It's cliche, but he needs to want to quit first. Next he has to get into treatment, get a new phone and phone number, and hava a good amount of support around him. When I quit drinking, etc. I didn't check myself in anywhere, but I did basically cut my "friends" from the past off. I went to a few meetings, but those didn't really take. I was just ready to do it, knew I had to, and stuck with it. I really hope it works out bro. It's so hard to see that happen to a friend or family member. Bad part is, you don't see it happen to yourself until you're able to look back on it. I lived 7+ years of my life in a booze fog. Life's better now, but I wouldn't have thought so 7 months ago.
 
This is all granny sucking eggs natter but anyways, in the name of charity.

You find something that really means something to them, something that surpasses all the shit in their life, something they treasure pristine and hold close to their heart and then you explain, you spell it out to them in no uncertain terms that if they keep on their current course of action, then they can kiss that all goodbye permanently, that they will certainly die sooner or later through liver failure or a closely related condition and then you offer your support in any way you can. If they’re a close friend then you owe them that wake up call. There's no pleasant way to slap someone and tell them of their impending demise, you just put it out there and gauge their reaction, that's all you can do. You can lead a horse to water but in the end it's their decision, that's part of the process, they have to prove and want to do it themselves.
 
i wasnt eating 30 ES's a day but close to it and as bad as the withdrawal symptons were i quit cold turkey, YOU HAVE TO WANT TO QUIT. and yes unless your insurance is covering them it gets to be expensive with street prices ranging from $2.50-$5/each
 
Best advice is that he goes to a program. Prefferably in patient by the sounds of his side effects for missed "doses". If he does not want to accept or reach out for help then maybe another option could be to ween himself off of it. Maybe taking less mg per day, although it sounds like no matter what he does he will still have the affects for not taking one. Best of trying to get him to admit himself in a inpatient program.
 
take one away each day for 5 days, then a week at the dose, then take one away each day, then a week at the dose,

so 29, 28, 27, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20

goodluck

oh yeah and mak ehim tlel his wife
 
No matter what he will not die from detox...might wish he could from the way it feels...but he can detox at home...but I think treatment would be his best option to prevent relapse or to switch his addiction
 
i'd definitely have him check into a clinic.

taking that many a day i don't think there will be an easy way to detox. obviously he doesn't have the strength to quit cold turkey if he keeps going back to taking 20-30 a day.
 
if he's doing it without going to a clinic he is probably going to need someone to take a week off work and stay with him the whole time, making sure he has plenty to eat and drink and that he won't touch the drug. My good friend did this for one of his roommates and he was done with the withdrawal symptoms after about 5 days
 
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