very low growth from cycle

[ahurse1]

a while back I ran a cycle that goes like this: wk1-3 anadrol 100mg/day
wk3-8 deca 200mg/wk
wk3-8 test 200mg/wk
wk8-12 EQ 200mg/wk
on this I put on a little over 30lbs...
I waited about 3months then started another cycle like this:
wk1-4 anadrol 150 mg/day
wk4-8 dbol 40mg/day
wk4-8 extrabolin deca 250mg/wk
wk4-8 test 400...400mg/wk
wk7-12 EQ 250mg/wk
wk12-16 tren&winny 50mg EOD
this yielded only about 10 lbs.
I realize I did not give myself enough time between them but is it possible that some of this stuff was fake?

I've been off for about 8 months now and with protein intake of 350/day I have managed to make up all I lost during the off time. I assume I'm ready to begin again, right?

 

[alltraps]

from 150mg of anadrol a day, you should have gained more then 10 lbs in the first 10 days. something is not right. so much gear and such small gains. you should use only three drugs per cycle. keep it simple, just increasse the doses,
you should do
test weeks 1 - 8 750mg-1gram
eq 800mg a week
dbol 50mg day for 4 weeks

 

[idcbp]

The problem with multi-stacks is just this, when things go less than perfect its hard to identify why. Limit the compounds so when you find something you like its easy to know what it is and at what dosage you like it. That is strange with the drol. Is it the same stuff you put the 30lbs on with? 3 months off isn't too short really, and definitely wouldn't account for that kind of drop. How did your diet and lifting compare?

 

[Apexx]

7 compounds in one cycle.

What's your experience with aas, ie, what other cycles have you ran besides the two that you have listed?

 

[MichaelMacGyver]

maybe something was fake

 

[mikebzt]

Bro your 2nd cycle has allot of gear in it. I think you are trying to accomplish too much at 1 time. reduce the compounds that you use so that you can pinpoint the problem easier

 

[aikido_thefirstone]

ditto what mikebzt said.
Assuming your gear is real and your diet and workout are in check, you should get good results from:

week 1-4 Drol 50 ED
Test 400mg Ever 7 days for 8 weeks
then follow up with post therapy.
Adex
r-ala
and tyler detox facor and a lots of water : )

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

a while back I ran a cycle that goes like this: wk1-3 anadrol 100mg/day
wk3-8 deca 200mg/wk
wk3-8 test 200mg/wk
wk8-12 EQ 200mg/wk
on this I put on a little over 30lbs...
I waited about 3months then started another cycle like this:
wk1-4 anadrol 150 mg/day
wk4-8 dbol 40mg/day
wk4-8 extrabolin deca 250mg/wk
wk4-8 test 400...400mg/wk
wk7-12 EQ 250mg/wk
wk12-16 tren&winny 50mg EOD
this yielded only about 10 lbs.
I realize I did not give myself enough time between them but is it possible that some of this stuff was fake?

I've been off for about 8 months now and with protein intake of 350/day I have managed to make up all I lost during the off time. I assume I'm ready to begin again, right?

you got balls for cramming 7 compounds in your system in one cycle

 

[BOOEY]

You guys are missing the point. Something is askew. As someone pointed out, he should have gained at least 10 pounds from the drol alone. The OP needs to give us more info. Were the products from the same source? Were your training and diet in check? Possible overtraining? I'm thinking it's bunk gear, b/c even if you were overtraining and not eating right, the water weight alone should have yielded more than 10lbs.

 

[idcbp]

You guys are missing the point. Something is askew. As someone pointed out, he should have gained at least 10 pounds from the drol alone. The OP needs to give us more info. Were the products from the same source? Were your training and diet in check? Possible overtraining? I'm thinking it's bunk gear, b/c even if you were overtraining and not eating right, the water weight alone should have yielded more than 10lbs.

My guess is the drol is bunk. 150mg for 4 weeks on anadrol will get you more than 10lbs water and that isn't going to be effected by anything short of a dieretic(not diet ,training,etc). Bloat is inevitable at those numbers. The came the dbol. I don't get it unless some stuff is not legit.

 

[bicepts101]

yeah if the drol is real youll gain a 1lb a day almost..that shit is crazy

 

[black_stripe1658]

How many grams protein and calories are you taking in each day and what is your diet like. If you dont take in enough of the right kinds of food the gear wont work right. Need a minimum of 300 grams of protein a day. Also might try to eat fish beef and chicken and only 1/3 of protein from shakes.

 

[black sheep]

With that result it would not be a stretch to think everything was fake except the 1 or 2 items.

You should have had huge gains, and sides.

This cycle was not very well researched. It sound like you were trying to go from skinny kid to arnold in 6 months. Who recommended you do such a thing to yourself? Do yourself a favor and keep it simple in the future. Your body will thank you for it.

 

[landser]

Why do u guys think you can gain 30lbs on every cycle? Shit, 46lb gain in two cycles is fucking amazing.

 

[Growth&Courage]

Why do u guys think you can gain 30lbs on every cycle? Shit, 46lb gain in two cycles is fucking amazing.

ditto.

 

[ahurse1]

thanks for the reponses.....the first cycle listed was my first "real cyle", I took a little test years ago, and a little dbol but it was'nt long enough for any real results.
As for why those particular substances; that is just what a guy I new had at a good price.
I took the same approach the 2nd time around because the 1st was so good.
On the second trip, all the stuff came from a supposed legit source in another country. After 2 weeks of the adrol I complained to the guy and he sent some more Iraniad adrol. So I thought this guy couldn't be trying to shank me if he sends more (he probably wouldn't want to talk at all).

The diet on #1 was the same as #2 (in fact the guy said to me "maybe before you were eating enough to get to 200lbs. but now you need to eat more)...so I stepped up the diet a little (probably to 300 grams protein/day)
I was never a big believer until recently on the importance of diet beacuse on nothing I'm back up to where I was on the "stuff".

Anyway the training definatly increased on the 2nd trip because I got a partener. One muscle group perday-once a week....5 day schedual...heavy lifting for 5 or so reps.

I noticed my streangth go up towards the end of #2...around that time i was ingesting the tren+winny combo..I know the tren was good.

thanks

 

[ahurse1]

oh yeah I forgot...clear oil that smelled like sesame oil came out of my nipples when squeezed after #2...in fact if I squeez real hard now I can produce

 

[idcbp]

Why do u guys think you can gain 30lbs on every cycle? Shit, 46lb gain in two cycles is fucking amazing.

10lbs. off 4 weeks of 150mg of a-bombs? Thats not even getting into the 20 other compounds. I agree guys have crazy expectations, but 10lbs on the 2nd cycle is not right.

 

[LVTitan]

oh yeah I forgot...clear oil that smelled like sesame oil came out of my nipples when squeezed after #2...in fact if I squeez real hard now I can produce

you just answered your own question.

 

[ahurse1]

you just answered your own question.

are you saying that if you ingect yourself with sesame oil (only) then it will make its way to your titties??? That sounds a bit out there.....

 

[duke of earl]

wk1-4 anadrol 150 mg/day
wk4-8 dbol 40mg/day
wk4-8 extrabolin deca 250mg/wk
wk4-8 test 400...400mg/wk
wk7-12 EQ 250mg/wk
wk12-16 tren&winny 50mg EOD[/QUOTE]

That looks horrible!! I agree you should have got more than 10lbs, but it's still pretty messed up! You seem to have way over complicated it with too many compounds - that aside you're running the long esters for way too short a period ( I'd say the Deca, Test & Eq all need to be run at an absolute minimum of 10 weeks)
How was your diet & training? If it was OK then a 10lb gain makes me think everything was bunk (except maybe one thing like the Dbol or Deca)

 

[bicepts101]

wk1-4 anadrol 150 mg/day
wk4-8 dbol 40mg/day
wk4-8 extrabolin deca 250mg/wk
wk4-8 test 400...400mg/wk
wk7-12 EQ 250mg/wk
wk12-16 tren&winny 50mg EOD

That looks horrible!! I agree you should have got more than 10lbs, but it's still pretty messed up! You seem to have way over complicated it with too many compounds - that aside you're running the long esters for way too short a period ( I'd say the Deca, Test & Eq all need to be run at an absolute minimum of 10 weeks)
How was your diet & training? If it was OK then a 10lb gain makes me think everything was bunk (except maybe one thing like the Dbol or Deca)

yeah i agree..that is one of the worste constructed cycles ive ever seen. there is no injectable week four.

a better way to do that cycle would have been:

anadrol 100mg wks 1-4
exrabolin 250mg wks 1-10
test 400mg wks 1-10
fina 50mg EOD wks 4-10
winstrol 50mg EOD wks 8-12

here you got test as a base through out, deca to follow, throw fina in the middle, end it with winny, and start PCT 3 days after the last winny inject...here you are running a max of 3 compounds at a time, although i dont believe there is any problem with running more than 3. JMO

 

[Slyder190]

a while back I ran a cycle that goes like this: wk1-3 anadrol 100mg/day
wk3-8 deca 200mg/wk
wk3-8 test 200mg/wk
wk8-12 EQ 200mg/wk
on this I put on a little over 30lbs...
I waited about 3months then started another cycle like this:
wk1-4 anadrol 150 mg/day
wk4-8 dbol 40mg/day
wk4-8 extrabolin deca 250mg/wk
wk4-8 test 400...400mg/wk
wk7-12 EQ 250mg/wk
wk12-16 tren&winny 50mg EOD
this yielded only about 10 lbs.
I realize I did not give myself enough time between them but is it possible that some of this stuff was fake?

I've been off for about 8 months now and with protein intake of 350/day I have managed to make up all I lost during the off time. I assume I'm ready to begin again, right?

No offense, but you're using too many compounds and your cycles are all fucked up and put together all wrong. You're gearin up to waste time, money, and worst of all, to hurt yourself. Do more research before you cycle again. If you got questions, then ask, that's what it's all about here.

 

[landser]

The reason a clear liquid is coming out your nipples is because of prolactin induced by the tren. You sir, are lactating.

 

[LVTitan]

is dostinex recommended for this during a tren cycle ?

 

[bicepts101]

is dostinex recommended for this during a tren cycle ?

yes...or cabaser...ie cabergoline

 

[glennds]

Why do u guys think you can gain 30lbs on every cycle? Shit, 46lb gain in two cycles is fucking amazing.

and if you do gain 30 lbs in one cycle do you seriuosly think it is all muscle and not a lot of water?

 

[bicepts101]

and if you do gain 30 lbs in one cycle do you seriuosly think it is all muscle and not a lot of water?

yeah and the only guys that gain 30lbs on a cycle are under 200lbs...rarely over that mark....

 

[LVTitan]

yeah and the only guys that gain 30lbs on a cycle are under 200lbs...rarely over that mark....

THATS ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ahurse1]

alright this is what will go into me next:

wk 1-10 enanthate 500/wk
wk 1-10 deca 500/wk
wk 1-4 dbol 40/day
wk 5-12 tren 50mg EOD

more thought out?

where can I get dextrose & maltodextrin from?

 

[hrt39]

Your body does need time to adjust to the new weight (the plus 30 lbs.). Not to mention the 10 additional after that. Remember the info on a body's stasis point?
Can someone repost the technical stuff?