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vwgti

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How long does it take to get vascular?
Any specific way to get it faster eg: lower rep higher weight or lower weight higher reps?
 
vwgti said:
How long does it take to get vascular?
Any specific way to get it faster eg: lower rep higher weight or lower weight higher reps?
seeing more veins = loosing body fat and reducing subcutanieus (sp?!) water (water under skin).

There aren't many great using for "high" reps in anything, IMO... depends on what you're training for though.

You want to loose fat, gain muscle (who doesn't?!) :)

I'd say stick to a sub 12 rep range... 8 or 10 max if you can per set.

Want to go over your routine?
 
Vascularity or rather the amount that you can visibly see has nothing to do with high reps, low reps, cables or any other crap. You may notice them more if you 'pump' up but it fades. It's all mostly bodyfat and genetics. Some people have very thick skin and no matter how low their bodyfat is they will not see that much in way of that dry, vascular look. Some drugs like eq and fina seem to make you look like their are snakes coming out of your skin. The only legal product I tried that came close is the Amplify02 stack.

I would focus on building solid bulk and then when you feel you've built enough, start to come down slowly. Then let diet and cardio take care of your bodyfat and the vascularity will come.
 
sgtslaughter said:
seeing more veins = loosing body fat and reducing subcutanieus (sp?!) water (water under skin).

There aren't many great using for "high" reps in anything, IMO... depends on what you're training for though.

You want to loose fat, gain muscle (who doesn't?!) :)

I'd say stick to a sub 12 rep range... 8 or 10 max if you can per set.

Want to go over your routine?

yeah sarge it would be great to ahve your input on my routine....

I usually work out every other day and have 2 different routines, now these routines can changedepending on how busy the gym is, as I don't want to be in there for 3 hours waiting to do everything that I want to, so I will add and take away as machines/weights are available.
I pretty much have 2 routines (day 1 and day 2) as follows:

Day 1:
Cardio - 10 min eliptical 65% THR
Leg Press 3 sets to failure
Leg extension 3 sets
Lying leg curls 3 sets
Abs

Day 2:
Cardio - 10 min eliptical 65% THR
Flat bench 3 sets
Incline Fly 3 sets
Dumbell Curls 3 sets
Lat pulldown 3 sets
Tri Extensions 3 sets
Abs

Thats about it...I will change it up a little, but not much....

Let me know what you think.
 
No deads, squats or rows? I think you should check out the stickys and read up on 5x5 and madcows site. Try to keep an open mind and you will see how it all makes sense. I think 5x5 and some good eating would build a new you over the next 6 months. :)
 
I really don't know where to start. I want to give you a new routine, lol.

Anybody with lower body days and upper body routine knowledge... to tweak what's already being used?

If not... I'd suggest a 3x8 routine via Madcow (I think?)

or a body part split doing it in circuit training fashion... worked extremely well for me when i dieted.
 
sgtslaughter said:
I really don't know where to start. I want to give you a new routine, lol.

Anybody with lower body days and upper body routine knowledge... to tweak what's already being used?

If not... I'd suggest a 3x8 routine via Madcow (I think?)

or a body part split doing it in circuit training fashion... worked extremely well for me when i dieted.
Sarge - go ahead give me a new routine...I am ready and willing....just remember with my knee I can't do squats until I get my leg stronger, that is why I am doing the leg press.....

so in other words BRING IT ON!! :lightning :jump:
 
vwgti said:
Sarge - go ahead give me a new routine...I am ready and willing....just remember with my knee I can't do squats until I get my leg stronger, that is why I am doing the leg press.....

so in other words BRING IT ON!! :lightning :jump:

Ok, cool... will do... in the meantime (cuz i'm signing off soon)...

Do some research and post a routine that you think you'd like and we'll tweak/overhaul to fit your needs and goals.
 
vwgti said:
Sarge - just remember with my knee I can't do squats until I get my leg stronger, that is why I am doing the leg press.....


Uhm, no offense, but the leg press will probably do you knee more harm than good if its already injured. Why can't you do weightless squats? I would drop leg extensions too, as that puts a lot of strain on your knee.

if you want stronger legs you can't shortcut it and work iso-crap. Even if you can't hold the bar, you can still squat down and practice form. Maybe through some straight leg deadlifts in to work your hammy's, and some conventional deads to get used to using your whole body to move some weight.
 
^^^^
Leg curls hurt your knees without them being hurt already, well that is if u do alot of weight. I also don't understand why you can't do squats if you do leg press. Ass too grass with lighter weight or box squats would also be ideal. Also cut out all the isolation work because you are probly waisting your time.
 
lol you're on your way to be baptised by the fathers on this board..

first read the stickies on top like everyone said.. you're in good hands!

and could u also state your stats? goals and time frame if there are any..
 
Well....

I will catch hell for this.


My vascularity increased a GREAT DEAL by adding one set of super high reps at the end of my workouts a while back.

The extra blood is temp as was stated, but it forces the capillaries to expand to handle the extra volume...its the basic reason WHY vaso-diolators like NO@ and others work. IF the caps were not able to handle to extra blood flow, you would reach a certain level of development and then plateau.


Forming of new caps and expanding existing ones happens everyday in hospitals. Those folks who have lost fingers or appendages have them sewn back on and a vacuum apparatus is used to pull the blood into the extremities, hence re-establishing new blood pathways.
 
Some additional info:

vwgti said:
1 - Age - 27
2 - Lifting History - just got back into the gym - Cardio and Weight lifting.
3 - Height - 6'0"
4 - Weight - 289 lbs
5 - Estimated BF% - 25.2% (72.9 lbs of fat)
6 - Diet - Look Here
7 - Goals - lose at least 64lbs of fat in 12 months

- Note: I have joint pain in my left knee, so much so that I can not squat, which is causing me much frusturation.
- Physical Therapist said that once my knees were strenghtened I should have no pain.
 
sgtslaughter said:
Post up your knee history here so these guys can see it.

... or copy/paste it from the diet forum/your log

I have always played sports elementary through College - knees got worse after I graduated and stopped playing sports and running 5 miles every day.
The PT says that it is because my outside thigh muscle is bigger than my inside thigh muscle. This is causing a pulling to the outside, actually my kneecap is not even centered on my knee it is positioned on the outside of where it should be.
When I was consistently running and working out it was not as bad, but now I can not even do a squat, I can go down only an inch or 2 before excruciating pain in my left knee. Now if I am on a cybex squat machine and already start with my knees bent I can straighten the weight almost all the way, but doing stand up squats is what kills me.
 
sgtslaughter said:
explanation?
Sure.....losing 64 pounds of fat will leave 9 pounds of fat...on a 200 pound + person.

That will put him at less than 4%
 
sgtslaughter said:
Ok, cool... will do... in the meantime (cuz i'm signing off soon)...

Do some research and post a routine that you think you'd like and we'll tweak/overhaul to fit your needs and goals.

I found a 3x5 that looks like it will work for me LINK

The only thing I am worried about is the Power Clean as I have never done one before.
 
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