Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I noticed at my last show (actually my only show), that I was no where near as vascular as some of the older competitors. I'm 21 yrs old, and was competing against 35 and 40 year old guys. My BF was <4%, so it wasn't that. I mean I was fairly vascular, but I didn't have those thick garden hose veins that some of the older competitors did. In your experience have you noticed that you gain vascularity with age?
Vascularity, does it come with age?
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THE_BIG_FED
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i have noticed this (31 now). my 19 year old friends at work always compliment me on the vascularity. and i'm the old guy. 
BIG D HASEK
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It comes with diet.
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TooJacked said:
Im not saying you didnt work hard, but you could have been more ripped with slight modifications to your diet. Its not about age, its more about experience.
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what was your diet like the week before your show. I bet that is were you can improve on your vascularity.
You look great!
You look great!
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I cant take a thing away from the way you look. Fucking Jacked!!
What are you stats.
Its good to see that you are open minded to ppls thoughts and opinions.
What are you stats.
Its good to see that you are open minded to ppls thoughts and opinions.
Yea bro you do look great.
But I agree with you that older guys do seem to have better larger veins, and Im not sure if it really is attributed to diet. When ive met some of the pros I couldnt get over the size of colemans and Palumbo's vein size. I mean they were huge. Coleman wasnt anywhere near ocntest shape and his vascularity was amazing. Im sure diet has some part to do with it but I think there is something more. Maybe the fact that they are older and the veins begin to harden a little? just a thought.
But I agree with you that older guys do seem to have better larger veins, and Im not sure if it really is attributed to diet. When ive met some of the pros I couldnt get over the size of colemans and Palumbo's vein size. I mean they were huge. Coleman wasnt anywhere near ocntest shape and his vascularity was amazing. Im sure diet has some part to do with it but I think there is something more. Maybe the fact that they are older and the veins begin to harden a little? just a thought.
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i was never never never vascular w/o trying until the late late 20's and early 30's. no way. i can get fat, and still have veins in my arms and delts. so diet, yeah it gets better....but got better w/o diet help with age. just happened one day, i was like WTF? why am i so more vascular now? i never was in my early 20's or mid 20's??? it was odd to say the least. gear usage starting near the same time had something to do with it i am sure (certain substances at least)...........
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TooJacked said:
yeppers. what were your stats in the pic? and weight class etc? look good dude (fucking young bastards)..........
Actually, vascularity does increase with age somewhat, but for the most part, it's genetics. Sure, if you're fat, you won't see veins but one guy can have 12% and be veiny whereas the next guy can be 6% and...nothing. Luck of the draw. Take two exact body types but one is vascular and the other isn't and the one that's vascular will look ten times more muscular. Skinny guys who don't work out can even look somewhat muscular as long as they have a tan. Pisses me the fuck off.
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Age and genetics, I think. I've always been vascular, but it has gotten serious in my twilight years.......little kids come up and poke at my veins cause they think I'm gonna explode.
Age and genetics, I think. I've always been vascular, but it has gotten serious in my twilight years.......little kids come up and poke at my veins cause they think I'm gonna explode.
Big Fed- First off, thanks. Stats at time of photo were 20 yrs old. 5'7" 173lbs. so I competed at middleweight.
IronMaster- Sick forearm bro. You gave me a lot of advice when I started GH, thanks. Only did it for about 4 months leading up to the show, but I must say it made a world of difference in my physique. I did notice increased vascularity while on GH as opposed to while off. Do you think GH aids in making veins bigger or is more-so from the decresed BF% from using it.
IronMaster- Sick forearm bro. You gave me a lot of advice when I started GH, thanks. Only did it for about 4 months leading up to the show, but I must say it made a world of difference in my physique. I did notice increased vascularity while on GH as opposed to while off. Do you think GH aids in making veins bigger or is more-so from the decresed BF% from using it.
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you are fuckin jacked bro--maybe its the pic, but is ur body like a million times tanner then ur face??? maybe u just didnt put the lotion on ur face when u took the pic--lol--vascularity wise, my vascularity seriously changes by the day-im 20, one day il be veiny as hell, the next day, nada--they are there tho, i can see em workin out--guess i just gota drop a lil bf
Yea, the lighting is one thing, plus the fact that I didn't put anything on my face yet. I don't like that fake tan on my face, so I left till the last possible minute before I went onstage . . . it's funny everyone who sees that pic says the same thing, maybe I'll just cut off the head next time.
TooJacked......you look damn good. Great symmetry like that is what wins shows. I trust that you intend to continue competing.
GH enhances vascularity by improving lean body composition, and by changing the appearance and elasticity of the skin. It gives that paper-thin skin look after long-term use.
It's hard to balence out the fake tan stuff, esp. when you can't check it under stage lighting. For some reason, it always wants to darken on the torso. Hell, Gunter had the same thing going at the GNC show and he still won.
Keep us posted on your shows, young brother.
GH enhances vascularity by improving lean body composition, and by changing the appearance and elasticity of the skin. It gives that paper-thin skin look after long-term use.
It's hard to balence out the fake tan stuff, esp. when you can't check it under stage lighting. For some reason, it always wants to darken on the torso. Hell, Gunter had the same thing going at the GNC show and he still won.
Keep us posted on your shows, young brother.
Thanks ironmaster, I'll be sure to keep you guys posted. Many of the bros on this board gave me a ton of help, and I appreciate it. I intend to keep on competing and hope to, at the very least , enter a National level competion and maybe, just maybe turn pro one day. we will see were the road of life leads me. Thanks again.
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TooJacked said:
hah. tell a lot of these numbskulls you were 173 and did AAS and they would flame you. then show them the pic and tell them your BF% and height and they would say good job. just goes to show you that you can't go by weight since BF% and height/bone structure varies so much.
us 5'7"/5'8" guys can weigh 40 lbs less and look better much of the time. 
Vascularity increases over years of training to meet the increased demands of your muscles new capilaries and blood vessels are formed to help get oxygen to and carry contaminents away from hard working muscles. You still have to be lean enough to see them and genetics of course plays a part, but I also feel its just another adaptation to exercise we perform regularly.
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Basically I just got very depleted so when I loaded up, my body went into a state of overcompensation, sucking all water into the muscle with the glycogen. I was too worried about spillover for the competition, because it was not until the day after and my post-competition pizza, that the veins popped in a really freaky way. Even my abs had veins standing out.
So as I recall, the key is to not be afraid to get very flat a couple days out. Then two days prior start with the simple carbs and I would shoot for a calorie surplus the day prior or morning of. Drink plenty of water. If you are in a state of super-compensation spillover should not be a problem.
But shit that was a long time ago so these days I am kind of out of the loop. Plus vascularity was never a weak point for me. I wish I had your full muscles.
What was your routine going into the competition?
Thanks guys,
Protein sources were chicken,egg whites, tuna, and salmon(occasionally). Also Iso-Pure until 4 weeks out. Only Carbs I ate wer oatmeal, yams and br.rice. Fats came from Flax oil, olive oil and whatever came from the protein sources.
I basically followed a 12 week diet.
Week 1- P=400g C=200g F=<40
Week 2- P=400g C=175g F=<50
Week 3-7- P=400g C=150g F=<50
week 8-10 P=400g C=100g F=<50
Week 11- P= 400g C=75g F=<60
Week 12 went as follows, if i remeber correctly
3 days carb depletion at 10-20g day
3 days carb load; day 1 200g;day 2 250g; day 3 300g.
During the Carb loading days I ate 8 meals/day spacing out all carbs evenly throughout each meal. Ate the same carbs I ate throughout diet, Brown rice, Yams, Oatmeal.
Water intake was 2 gallons a day throughout diet until last week. Cut water down to 1 gallon on first day of carb load, then to 1/2 gal on day 2 then down to less then a quart the day before the show. Stopped drinking at 5 pm. Also cut out all sodium during carb load days.
This is not 100% accurate but is the best that I can remember.
I trained Hard and Heavy, 6 days a week/one bodypart a day, all the way till the last 2 weeks. At that point with such low carbs I was shot, but went as heavy as I could. Never went crazy with reps, no more than 8-12/set
Next time I plan on being much more precise with my diet and trying a new training routine.
Protein sources were chicken,egg whites, tuna, and salmon(occasionally). Also Iso-Pure until 4 weeks out. Only Carbs I ate wer oatmeal, yams and br.rice. Fats came from Flax oil, olive oil and whatever came from the protein sources.
I basically followed a 12 week diet.
Week 1- P=400g C=200g F=<40
Week 2- P=400g C=175g F=<50
Week 3-7- P=400g C=150g F=<50
week 8-10 P=400g C=100g F=<50
Week 11- P= 400g C=75g F=<60
Week 12 went as follows, if i remeber correctly
3 days carb depletion at 10-20g day
3 days carb load; day 1 200g;day 2 250g; day 3 300g.
During the Carb loading days I ate 8 meals/day spacing out all carbs evenly throughout each meal. Ate the same carbs I ate throughout diet, Brown rice, Yams, Oatmeal.
Water intake was 2 gallons a day throughout diet until last week. Cut water down to 1 gallon on first day of carb load, then to 1/2 gal on day 2 then down to less then a quart the day before the show. Stopped drinking at 5 pm. Also cut out all sodium during carb load days.
This is not 100% accurate but is the best that I can remember.
I trained Hard and Heavy, 6 days a week/one bodypart a day, all the way till the last 2 weeks. At that point with such low carbs I was shot, but went as heavy as I could. Never went crazy with reps, no more than 8-12/set
Next time I plan on being much more precise with my diet and trying a new training routine.
Stillgoing
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I think age definitely helps, or, better said, muscle maturity. A mature muscle is larger, more seperated and more defined, thus more likely to be veiny. Muscle maturity only comes with time.
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