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Var vs helladrol?
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kc17
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Why don't you go the injectable route , throw var at the end you will be amazed by the results
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ALIN
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HDROL isnt a bad choice but I still think ANAVAR is superior amongst the two.
needtogetaas
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They are both going to cause suppression my friend. The myth that some steroids are going to cause more suppression then others is just that. Once you introduce a outside source of hormones into the body your body will shut off the production of that homrone and or others. Different homes effect the HPTA, LH, FSH,GNRH, hormone loop, nero steroids and all kinds of different mechanisms in the body. Some Rais other hormones well others suppression then. Recovery is all about knowing all of this information and then learning how to normalize all of it when the cycle is over.... Now because there is so many simple minds who want to seem like they know something. Well we have cookie cutter advice and regurgitated bro'ology running a muck all over the world but I say do not be a lemming. Take the path less traveled and learn more....
Now Helladrol is a molecular modified version of Tbol Drug name Turinabol molecular structure 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone .. Helladrol=Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-diol
Originally brought to market by Gaspari Nutrition as "Halodrol 50", this compound is the diol version of Oral Turinabol (4-Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone). Basically Helladrol is M14ADD with a chlorine atom attached at the 4-position. This allows for a good conversion rate to Tbal most saying 5% however I believe when it comes to conversion it all depends on how much of the target enzyme the user has in his body that will directly effect conversion rates. I my self feel every mans conversion can Vary as much as 10%.. Which is why some see HUGE results and others see little... Now What is great about Helladrol is that Doil/diene is always somewhat anabolic on its own without conversion so we have both a pro hormone and a steroid here....
Now you said Taking cost out of the question. Many people who have been around a long time no of what is called a Halovar stack. In fact it has become so popular one company made a product called halovar in hopes to make sales off the name. A halovar cycle would be the combo of Helladrol and var. Or Tbol and var but in this case the later.... I say run them both and run them as follows.
Weeks
1-8 Var 50mg every day spread out
1-8 Helladrol 25mg 3 times a day
1-8 N2-guard full dose every day
4-8 Hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm ( or Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day)
8-12 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
8-14 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
8-12 N2BM-DAA 1 dose every day ( optional)
8-12 Sarsm s-4 25mg every day (also optional)
A nutrition practitioner is always a great add to any cycle for this I like Need2slin I feel nothing compares. Whne running var always remeber that all steroids work synergistic with Creatine but non as good as with var.
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog . You can go as high as 10g a day but If looking to keep it lean go with Ancient strength and keep it around 5g a day.
Now Helladrol is a molecular modified version of Tbol Drug name Turinabol molecular structure 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone .. Helladrol=Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-diol
Originally brought to market by Gaspari Nutrition as "Halodrol 50", this compound is the diol version of Oral Turinabol (4-Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone). Basically Helladrol is M14ADD with a chlorine atom attached at the 4-position. This allows for a good conversion rate to Tbal most saying 5% however I believe when it comes to conversion it all depends on how much of the target enzyme the user has in his body that will directly effect conversion rates. I my self feel every mans conversion can Vary as much as 10%.. Which is why some see HUGE results and others see little... Now What is great about Helladrol is that Doil/diene is always somewhat anabolic on its own without conversion so we have both a pro hormone and a steroid here....
Now you said Taking cost out of the question. Many people who have been around a long time no of what is called a Halovar stack. In fact it has become so popular one company made a product called halovar in hopes to make sales off the name. A halovar cycle would be the combo of Helladrol and var. Or Tbol and var but in this case the later.... I say run them both and run them as follows.
Weeks
1-8 Var 50mg every day spread out
1-8 Helladrol 25mg 3 times a day
1-8 N2-guard full dose every day
4-8 Hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm ( or Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day)
8-12 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
8-14 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
8-12 N2BM-DAA 1 dose every day ( optional)
8-12 Sarsm s-4 25mg every day (also optional)
A nutrition practitioner is always a great add to any cycle for this I like Need2slin I feel nothing compares. Whne running var always remeber that all steroids work synergistic with Creatine but non as good as with var.
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog . You can go as high as 10g a day but If looking to keep it lean go with Ancient strength and keep it around 5g a day.
so stacking var and tbol for 8 weeks wouldnt be a worry on the liver? Just curious, I know you are the man and know your stuff...
I have some tbol and var in storage...and waiting until I get some Masteron on hand....was gonna hit a blast with Mast+tbol....if Im feeling frisky and tbol+Var isnt tough on liver heck maybe Id do it haha
I have some tbol and var in storage...and waiting until I get some Masteron on hand....was gonna hit a blast with Mast+tbol....if Im feeling frisky and tbol+Var isnt tough on liver heck maybe Id do it haha
it will effect your liver. They are not the worst 2 choices you could stack together. Use forged liver & liver 52. 2 caps of each at night and you *should* be cool.....Ill wait for nate to respond again tho.
dont wana give bad info......Need2 where r u??
I am not starting for a while so no worries...plus if I dont do the Var ill just be saving it for summer..
Ever see the documentaries on East Germany? They claim folks were having liver issues but who knows what was really going on...Ive used tbol lightly before with labs and it wasnt an issue
Ever see the documentaries on East Germany? They claim folks were having liver issues but who knows what was really going on...Ive used tbol lightly before with labs and it wasnt an issue
RADAR
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I would not stack those together, due to the stress on the liver, if you're not going to run the cycle needto suggested i would do a Test cypionate and var at the end cycle.
RADAR
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add Var the last 6 weeks of the cycle 40-50mgs daily is sufficient. Also Nova is not a good PCT, you need Unleashed post cycle & unleashed available at NTBM.
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