Var for a first cycle

[eddymerckx]

I would strongly encourage you to use Test with your cycle 300-500mg/wk.
Run Dbol first 20-40 mg/ ED for 4-6 weeks. Then Var 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.
Be sure to get ALL your PCT and ancillary on cycle supplies BEFORE you start.

yep, test for 1st cycle and.........i would wait a few more years.

 

[wootoom]

Test and Var but honestly im not gonna sit here and tell you not to just use Var only..I have gained 12lbs lean mass!!! Just from Var...Just make sure the dosages are good.

 

[jroc86]

If your looking to transform your body for a first cycle run test with dbol.

If your looking to refine what youve already got and add some strength + vascularity go with anavar.

 

[wootoom]

i added good LBM off var only

 

[the elite addict]

Dude if this is your first cycle you shouldn't be using anything other than Test first. This way you can know how you react to it and what type of gains you'll make. You shouldn't stack anything together until you know how each individual drug works for you and what types of sides you get. That being said:

500mg Test E or C 12 weeks
20mg Aromasin ed or AIFM for AI
1000iu hcg ed for 5 days one week after last injection then,
50mg Clomid ed for 4 weeks with you AI of choice

lets face it bro. that sides of A.A.S are typically over rated. Aside from gyno and minor bloat, there really are no sides from test and especially winstrol. Tren being the only AAS with distinct side effects.

 

[Bruce]

lets face it bro. that sides of A.A.S are typically over rated. Aside from gyno and minor bloat, there really are no sides from test and especially winstrol. Tren being the only AAS with distinct side effects.

that is certainly not true. deca can give you a limp dick or worse take away your ability to cum. winstrol thrashes the cholesterol and blood pressure as well as your lipids. all aas have side effects. getting blood work after cycles is the only way to make sure you are seeing no sides. you are talking visible sides. i know plenty of guys that test makes their libido shrink and i could go on about the sides from dbol adrol and any other for that matter. one day on dbol and your bp will sky rocket. how is that not a side

 

[wootoom]

that is certainly not true. deca can give you a limp dick or worse take away your ability to cum. winstrol thrashes the cholesterol and blood pressure as well as your lipids. all aas have side effects. getting blood work after cycles is the only way to make sure you are seeing no sides. you are talking visible sides. i know plenty of guys that test makes their libido shrink and i could go on about the sides from dbol adrol and any other for that matter. one day on dbol and your bp will sky rocket. how is that not a side

Hahah so true...So i can take 2000mg of test/ew without any sides? as if...

 

[Bruce]

even anavar, tbol, and winny have their own side effects. personally i'll take a bit of bloat from test with a good ai to stop water retention and thus negating the raise in blood pressure. tren will absolutely wreak havoc on your values. every roid there is has sides. test should be treated accordingly. a good ai should be used and proper pct. i'd say shrinking nuts is a side effect no?

 

[Burpees]

I'm going to see what 6 weeks of Var does for me after my 12 weeks of Tren.. I'm going to keep my test E at 500 for the first 3 weeks of Var, then switch to Prop for the last 3..