Var for a first cycle

[peligroso]

Well i was thinking in using d bol with my first cycle 250 of test E for 10 week what is better d bol or var?

im 23
4 year trainin 196 lbs
13% bf
My diet is check

 

[motox85]

Dbol for bigger gains and stregth, anavar to be more shredded. Depends what your goals are. How tall are you?

 

[halfcenturian]

I would strongly encourage you to use Test with your cycle 300-500mg/wk.
Run Dbol first 20-40 mg/ ED for 4-6 weeks. Then Var 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.
Be sure to get ALL your PCT and ancillary on cycle supplies BEFORE you start.

 

[peligroso]

Im 5'8 not very tall and im 196lbs this is my first cycle i have arimidex and clomid on hand and I have dbol and var on hand thats why i was curios.

 

[halfcenturian]

Im 5'8 not very tall and im 196lbs this is my first cycle i have arimidex and clomid on hand and I have dbol and var on hand thats why i was curios.

Can you get 10 weeks worth of Test? 2, 10ml vials should do. Test will really give you the best results with the least amonut of sides. Far less then Dbol or Var.
But you CAN do a Dbol / Var only cycle. Are you afraid of needles?

 

[Bruce]

Either do Var by itself or make sure you have test and run it for 12 weeks for best results. if you get test do 4 weeks of dbol to kick it off and complete your cycle with var. use the var a week after your last test shot so you have a short ester while the test clears. than run pct with your clomid. u may not need adex but if your nips puff up use .5mg ed to keep that at bay. The dumbest thing you can do is do a dbol only cycle or a dbol var cycle. var alone is fine. you have not answered the biggest question though which is what are your goals. if you just want to shred a bit and not put on substantial mass just do var or a maintenence dose of test and then var. If you are bulkng do the test and dbol and use the var if you want to. know that var can curb your appetite. that can be good or bad depending on your goals. it also will allow muscle growth on restricted cals which is good if you are shredding. like i said though if your bulking i'd save the var or use it at the end to help solidify gains. imo though if you intend on putting on just lean mass not sloppiness keeping gains should be no problem with good pct and continuing in the gym and kitchen

 

[peligroso]

No im not afraid of needles and yes I have enough also i live in mexico so there is no poblem getting my stuff at all

my diet is check with a professional
almost 5000 calories
350 grams of protein a day

actually buying that much food cost more than the cycle...

money is not and issue right now so for a first cycle

250 test e for 10 weeks
1-4 week dbol 25 every day

and how can I add var im new to using var...

and im 196 5'8 13%bf
I want more mass im cut right now but i need more mass

 

[bw1]

I would strongly encourage you to use Test with your cycle 300-500mg/wk.
Run Dbol first 20-40 mg/ ED for 4-6 weeks. Then Var 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.
Be sure to get ALL your PCT and ancillary on cycle supplies BEFORE you start.

+1

 

[mikebzt]

No im not afraid of needles and yes I have enough also i live in mexico so there is no poblem getting my stuff at all

my diet is check with a professional
almost 5000 calories
350 grams of protein a day

actually buying that much food cost more than the cycle...

money is not and issue right now so for a first cycle

250 test e for 10 weeks
1-4 week dbol 25 every day

and how can I add var im new to using var...

and im 196 5'8 13%bf
I want more mass im cut right now but i need more mass

you really should bump up the test to 500

 

[peligroso]

Does it makes any difference if I use test E and cypionate? its the same compound right? like 250 test E 250 Test Cypionate inyecting every 6 days

 

[the elite addict]

test at 400 mg weeks 1-10
dbol weeks 1-4 50mg
var weeks 6-10 mg

Oh wait, first cycle... LOL

do var only for 6 weeks at 40mg ED or run the Test for 10 weeks at 400mg a week. Goodluck!

 

[peligroso]

My question is anavar is a little side effect steroid and d bol has more side effects then why is more recomendes d bol then anavar for a first cycle?

 

[motox85]

actually buying that much food cost more than the cycle...

Hey what are you thinking NO PRICE TALK

 

[halfcenturian]

I would strongly encourage you to use Test with your cycle 300-500mg/wk.
Run Dbol first 20-40 mg/ ED for 4-6 weeks. Then Var 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.
Be sure to get ALL your PCT and ancillary on cycle supplies BEFORE you start.

Is there an echo in......

 

[halfcenturian]

test at 400 mg weeks 1-10
dbol weeks 1-4 50mg
var weeks 6-10 mg

Oh wait, first cycle... LOL

do var only for 6 weeks at 40mg ED or run the Test for 10 weeks at 400mg a week. Goodluck!

............HERE!

 

[peligroso]

I Dont Understand Whats The Problem With Var For A First Cycle

 

[motox85]

Theres no problem. Think of it as 75% of what gains you could get instead of 100% gains you could get along with test and a clean diet.

 

[peligroso]

yeah but i was thinking in using both anaavar and test E instead of dbol

 

[the elite addict]

............HERE!

Thats funny. I hadnt even read your post, when I posted that. I guess we are on the same page, ol timer

 

[Mrpumped]

Dude if this is your first cycle you shouldn't be using anything other than Test first. This way you can know how you react to it and what type of gains you'll make. You shouldn't stack anything together until you know how each individual drug works for you and what types of sides you get. That being said:

500mg Test E or C 12 weeks
20mg Aromasin ed or AIFM for AI
1000iu hcg ed for 5 days one week after last injection then,
50mg Clomid ed for 4 weeks with you AI of choice

 

[eddymerckx]

I would strongly encourage you to use Test with your cycle 300-500mg/wk.
Run Dbol first 20-40 mg/ ED for 4-6 weeks. Then Var 40-60mg for 4-6 weeks.
Be sure to get ALL your PCT and ancillary on cycle supplies BEFORE you start.

yep, test for 1st cycle and.........i would wait a few more years.

 

[wootoom]

Test and Var but honestly im not gonna sit here and tell you not to just use Var only..I have gained 12lbs lean mass!!! Just from Var...Just make sure the dosages are good.

 

[jroc86]

If your looking to transform your body for a first cycle run test with dbol.

If your looking to refine what youve already got and add some strength + vascularity go with anavar.

 

[wootoom]

i added good LBM off var only

 

[the elite addict]

Dude if this is your first cycle you shouldn't be using anything other than Test first. This way you can know how you react to it and what type of gains you'll make. You shouldn't stack anything together until you know how each individual drug works for you and what types of sides you get. That being said:

500mg Test E or C 12 weeks
20mg Aromasin ed or AIFM for AI
1000iu hcg ed for 5 days one week after last injection then,
50mg Clomid ed for 4 weeks with you AI of choice

lets face it bro. that sides of A.A.S are typically over rated. Aside from gyno and minor bloat, there really are no sides from test and especially winstrol. Tren being the only AAS with distinct side effects.

 

[Bruce]

lets face it bro. that sides of A.A.S are typically over rated. Aside from gyno and minor bloat, there really are no sides from test and especially winstrol. Tren being the only AAS with distinct side effects.

that is certainly not true. deca can give you a limp dick or worse take away your ability to cum. winstrol thrashes the cholesterol and blood pressure as well as your lipids. all aas have side effects. getting blood work after cycles is the only way to make sure you are seeing no sides. you are talking visible sides. i know plenty of guys that test makes their libido shrink and i could go on about the sides from dbol adrol and any other for that matter. one day on dbol and your bp will sky rocket. how is that not a side

 

[wootoom]

that is certainly not true. deca can give you a limp dick or worse take away your ability to cum. winstrol thrashes the cholesterol and blood pressure as well as your lipids. all aas have side effects. getting blood work after cycles is the only way to make sure you are seeing no sides. you are talking visible sides. i know plenty of guys that test makes their libido shrink and i could go on about the sides from dbol adrol and any other for that matter. one day on dbol and your bp will sky rocket. how is that not a side

Hahah so true...So i can take 2000mg of test/ew without any sides? as if...

 

[Bruce]

even anavar, tbol, and winny have their own side effects. personally i'll take a bit of bloat from test with a good ai to stop water retention and thus negating the raise in blood pressure. tren will absolutely wreak havoc on your values. every roid there is has sides. test should be treated accordingly. a good ai should be used and proper pct. i'd say shrinking nuts is a side effect no?

 

[Burpees]

I'm going to see what 6 weeks of Var does for me after my 12 weeks of Tren.. I'm going to keep my test E at 500 for the first 3 weeks of Var, then switch to Prop for the last 3..