Using Test to Cut v Natural Cutting

[dvoted]

Hey guys, firstly I'd like to apologise if this has been answered, I've researched and could not get a straight answer. If there has been an answer please state the URL of the answer! Thankyou

Stats: 21
Bf: 18%
weight: 207 lbs
lifting experience: 3 yrs

I was just wondering what are the advantages of using testosterone for a cutting cycle (NOT with tren, Var winni, primo etc) just a test only cycle to cut.

Whether be at a dose of 250mg or 500 mg a week versus a natural cut with no anabolic steroids.

Keeping in mind the exact diet will be used on a natural cut v steroid cycle.

Enough protein/carbs etc.


thanks in advance

 

[Jbranken]

Any form of test will aid in muscle retention (and addition gains) and fat loss in a cal deficit. Longer esters will bloat you though. Is this a gereral question or are you considering this

 

[dvoted]

It was a general question tbh, I have considered this but it would be in liek 6 months timess. Would the muscle retention (at low dose of 200 mg a week) be recognisable than someone that did a natural cut and used a high protein/low carb diet to retain muscle?

 

[gangstalo]

at your age i dont think you need the test especially at 200mg.. u will be using less than your body produces naturally (most likely) at your age.

 

[Jbranken]

It was a general question tbh, I have considered this but it would be in liek 6 months timess. Would the muscle retention (at low dose of 200 mg a week) be recognisable than someone that did a natural cut and used a high protein/low carb diet to retain muscle?

Keep going natural for a few more years while hormones are blazing in you. 100-150 ew is a trt dose so 200 would maintain muscle but its really a waste of gear. Your concern should be on diet and training though, not roids.

 

[Nelson Montana]

At 21 years of age it'll do next to nothing and just make it harder in the future to cut without it.

 

[oxymoron]

bro save these types of ideas for when ur 40+ yrs old (when u really need it).
get set up on a solid diet in the diet forum with heavy lifting and cardio.

 

[kmoe4747]

Ya bro hold off till at least 23. Even then still probably to young. Keep the diet clean and hit the gym even harder.

 

[hurricane]

test will help you hold muscle in extreme dieting circumstances.But at 21 years,not worth to waste for that.

 

[dvoted]

Thanks heaps guys! I was thinking the same it would be a waste if used to just hold muscle

TBH, my test is on the LOW end of the "ideal" brackeys of testosterone level. :S not even touching anyting.

 

[Jbranken]

Thanks heaps guys! I was thinking the same it would be a waste if used to just hold muscle

TBH, my test is on the LOW end of the "ideal" brackeys of testosterone level. :S not even touching anyting.

No reason you can't supplement bud. Get some creatine and phytoserms 347 and go blasting in the gym

 

[dvoted]

No reason you can't supplement bud. Get some creatine and phytoserms 347 and go blasting in the gym

Thanks!! I have 7 mnths till summer just wanna lose 15 to 20 kgs

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[hurricane]

lot of supps avail at mr supps and ntbm that could aid in bodyfat loss and holding muscle while dieting

Also if you are set at cutting and want to hold muscle.Runs a sarms triple stack from sarmssearch.. you will cut and hold muscle and it will not mess with your hormones like test cycle will.At 21 you still dont have to go this route but if you must i would go there 1st.

 

[dvoted]

lot of supps avail at mr supps and ntbm that could aid in bodyfat loss and holding muscle while dieting

Also if you are set at cutting and want to hold muscle.Runs a sarms triple stack from sarmssearch.. you will cut and hold muscle and it will not mess with your hormones like test cycle will.At 21 you still dont have to go this route but if you must i would go there 1st.

Thanks for the heads up
I already have 2 bottles of s4 and one of osta. might throw in some creatine.

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[hurricane]

Thanks for the heads up
I already have 2 bottles of s4 and one of osta. might throw in some creatine.

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order some gw for the triple stack and you should be golden

be careful with the s4, it can cause vision sides and be suppressive.

 

[dylangemelli]

make sure when you run your triple stack that you run either hcgenerate or test infusion alongside of them... i would also run albuterol and n2burn as well... its a great combo...

 

[dvoted]

make sure when you run your triple stack that you run either hcgenerate or test infusion alongside of them... i would also run albuterol and n2burn as well... its a great combo...

Thanks Dylan! always having great advice

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[Voijn]

I did my first cycle of steroids at the age 21ish, and i must admit that i regret it. It did make me alot bigger, and it did give me a bunch of strength but the mental difference was kinda a big thing for me.. I dont care what people say, but the higher the testosteron the more you are..

Thinking back, i cant really think of my self as being different then now. But my friends state, that i easlie would be in rage. Now this is a personal thing, some people are really retarded and the steroids make them even worse... Ive never done any one bad, but i must admit that the mental changes were both postive and negative

On the other hand ive fainted once, and ended up at the hospital.. They scanned my heart some month later and found out that i had left ventricle hypertrophy, this could be to several other reasons such as me gaining 45kg natural, when i had an eating disorder.. But just know that they actually found something abnormal, wich in our bodybuilding world might actually be quite normal was still frightening

Other then that the depressions and legacy "sleepyness" that ive had after finishing is terrible.. I would advise people to rethink their idea of using steroids untill 23.. i dont see the body as not being prepaded, but rather the mind... with age comes wisdom