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UPDATE to 1.5 years and Still Shutdown
Up until a month ago. I have been shut down for over 1.5 years. Some of you have read the thread and I thank everyone who offered their time, opinions and support.
The bottom line if you want to resolve a serious medical problem like this, Secondary Aquired Hypogonadatropic Hypogonadism, is to get a qualified doctor and have your blood work done. There are many factors involved which many of us are more than likely unaware of. Most of you that have spoken to me or read my posts will probably say that I have a decent ammount of knowledge in regards to the game and now are probably wondering how did something like this happen. Simple, ABUSE and a ignorant attitude that more than likely it won't happen to me. Im sure you can all see that I am much more humble now. LOL
After finding the right Endocrinologist, the key is to present the case to him in the right way. Don't just come clean and say hey I juiced, I'm all fucked up and I need help. It may seem like the right idea but some take offense to it for their own reasons such as you are just a drug abuser. Try something like, I am or was an athlete. The team or coached preassured me into doing this. I had no idea about the side effects. They told me it was totally safe. Now I am having all these problems and do not know what to do. This will demonstrate that you didn't try to take matters into your own hands to begin with. You have admit you made a stupid mistake and recognize you need professional help. Also, let him know you are not looking for a quick answer but his or her's proffesional long term, if necessary, guidance and assistance.
I went through 4 different doctors until the one I have now. Finally, after a month, I am almost back to normal which includes an improvement in overall mood, strength and energy and most importantly Libido. One personal recomendation is to stay away from the female doctors. I delt with 2 that were both non sympathetic to the condition nor did they understand it from a male point of view.
A major problem I personally noticed was that I never had any initial values to compare my current ones to. Therefore, after blood tests, my results usually showed borderline or low normal values. Many of the doctors considered them to be normal or felt that, although low, things should return to normal on their own. What many of them still don't realize is that although the numbers are in technically normal ranges, it does not mean that the individual is functioning properly or feeling well due to the fact that conditions like this must be reviewed and delt with on an individual basis.
The treatment I am on is quite different than is what is recomended here so I never bothered to post it until now. It is missing many of the common components recomended here, has astoundingly high dosages and has an ingredient that nobody here has happened to mention, including docotors.
5,0000 iu's HCG 3 times per week
150 iu's HMG (FSH/LH) 3 times per week
Like I said, it has been a month now and I am almost back to normal. We are now in the process of tapering down the dosages and monitoring for consistent hormone levels next. Obviously my condition is extreme. My program totally goes against most recomendations on this board but it is working. One of the most common things that people develop on high doses of HCG is Gynecomastia. I have zero symptoms.
Take advantage of what the board has to offer. A community of people with various experiences, knowledge and a place to share information. As long as you keep your cycles to reasonable dosages and time frames, this board has the majority of the information you need to resolve your questions and concerns. Be ready to accept the consequences for not thoroughly educating and preparing yourself. There are many brilliant, knowlegable and supportive people here but you need to get the opinion of an EXPERIENCED professional when dealing with a serious medical condition. Especially, when doing a highly unrecommended long term cycle and ending up in an extreme condition like myself. LOL
Once again, Thanks to all those who participated in previous thread and I hope the people reading this one have learned something from it.
Jenetic
Up until a month ago. I have been shut down for over 1.5 years. Some of you have read the thread and I thank everyone who offered their time, opinions and support.
The bottom line if you want to resolve a serious medical problem like this, Secondary Aquired Hypogonadatropic Hypogonadism, is to get a qualified doctor and have your blood work done. There are many factors involved which many of us are more than likely unaware of. Most of you that have spoken to me or read my posts will probably say that I have a decent ammount of knowledge in regards to the game and now are probably wondering how did something like this happen. Simple, ABUSE and a ignorant attitude that more than likely it won't happen to me. Im sure you can all see that I am much more humble now. LOL
After finding the right Endocrinologist, the key is to present the case to him in the right way. Don't just come clean and say hey I juiced, I'm all fucked up and I need help. It may seem like the right idea but some take offense to it for their own reasons such as you are just a drug abuser. Try something like, I am or was an athlete. The team or coached preassured me into doing this. I had no idea about the side effects. They told me it was totally safe. Now I am having all these problems and do not know what to do. This will demonstrate that you didn't try to take matters into your own hands to begin with. You have admit you made a stupid mistake and recognize you need professional help. Also, let him know you are not looking for a quick answer but his or her's proffesional long term, if necessary, guidance and assistance.
I went through 4 different doctors until the one I have now. Finally, after a month, I am almost back to normal which includes an improvement in overall mood, strength and energy and most importantly Libido. One personal recomendation is to stay away from the female doctors. I delt with 2 that were both non sympathetic to the condition nor did they understand it from a male point of view.
A major problem I personally noticed was that I never had any initial values to compare my current ones to. Therefore, after blood tests, my results usually showed borderline or low normal values. Many of the doctors considered them to be normal or felt that, although low, things should return to normal on their own. What many of them still don't realize is that although the numbers are in technically normal ranges, it does not mean that the individual is functioning properly or feeling well due to the fact that conditions like this must be reviewed and delt with on an individual basis.
The treatment I am on is quite different than is what is recomended here so I never bothered to post it until now. It is missing many of the common components recomended here, has astoundingly high dosages and has an ingredient that nobody here has happened to mention, including docotors.
5,0000 iu's HCG 3 times per week
150 iu's HMG (FSH/LH) 3 times per week
Like I said, it has been a month now and I am almost back to normal. We are now in the process of tapering down the dosages and monitoring for consistent hormone levels next. Obviously my condition is extreme. My program totally goes against most recomendations on this board but it is working. One of the most common things that people develop on high doses of HCG is Gynecomastia. I have zero symptoms.
Take advantage of what the board has to offer. A community of people with various experiences, knowledge and a place to share information. As long as you keep your cycles to reasonable dosages and time frames, this board has the majority of the information you need to resolve your questions and concerns. Be ready to accept the consequences for not thoroughly educating and preparing yourself. There are many brilliant, knowlegable and supportive people here but you need to get the opinion of an EXPERIENCED professional when dealing with a serious medical condition. Especially, when doing a highly unrecommended long term cycle and ending up in an extreme condition like myself. LOL
Once again, Thanks to all those who participated in previous thread and I hope the people reading this one have learned something from it.
Jenetic
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