Upcoming Cycle

[ivkk]

I've been a long time reader to EF, and I'm glad to be here.
I have a cycle in a month for my first cycle. I'm trying to gain some solid mass, and hopefully get about 20lbs.

Cycle:

35mg thai dbols ED 5wks
200mg/wk QGL deca 8-10wks
500mg/wk QGL entha 8-10wks

What do you guys think of the cycle?

 

[mlong23]

What does QGL mean? And you have been a long time reader, but have only 1 post?

 

[mlong23]

I am assuming you have never thought of replying to any of the posts you have read.

Sounds good, may want to drop the Dbol down to 25 mg, bump up the Deca to 300-400. What about post recovery?

 

[galaxy]

Its Quality Grade Labs. And I think you can probably cut the test in half for a first cycle. Hell the dbol alone will probably put 20lbs on you!

 

[mlong23]

Its Quality Grade Labs. And I think you can probably cut the test in half for a first cycle. Hell the dbol alone will probably put 20lbs on you!

I was thinking of taking the Test down as well, I mean damn its only your first cycle. Always keep the mg.'s as low as you can for as long as you can without having to bump them up.

 

[ivkk]

I've never really replied, just researching.

QGL = Quality Grade Labs

Heard great things about them.

But, I was planning on increasing the deca to 300mg/wk, but I really don't want to spend that much on the deca. What's the difference between taking the 25 and 35mg dbols? Even though its the first cycle I'm trying to put as much weight as possible.

Anyone have a good idea for a post-cycle?

 

[galaxy]

Post cycle do everything. You earned the muscle , you might as well do your best to keep it. Dont fuck around! HCG, clomid and nolvadex. Even do some of the herbs that Nelson Montana talks about. Fuck it, it cant hurt!

 

[SpeedFreak5]

Post cycle do everything. You earned the muscle , you might as well do your best to keep it. Dont fuck around! HCG, clomid and nolvadex. Even do some of the herbs that Nelson Montana talks about. Fuck it, it cant hurt!

I did thia dbol for only three weeks.

wk1 25mgx2ED
wk2 25mgx4ED
wk3 25mgx6ED

after that I was forced to stop. The point is I took a 5000iu shot of HCG E3D starting at the end of wk3. I put on 20 pounds and kept it until I wanted to loose the weight.

 

[Del_Piero]

What's the difference between taking the 25 and 35mg dbols?

There is a lot of difference, higher dose of oral is not good, especially for a 1st cycle, bro ur trying to kill ur liver from word go. I would stick with 20-25ed and also go easy on the test in my opinion.

 

[Del_Piero]

For ur PCT: 50mg Ed of clomid for 21 days should be ok. If you get gynos, take 20-40mg/day of nolva until symptoms disappear.

 

[ivkk]

Del, I know what you mean. I'm not thinking smart about the cycle. Thanks.

I'm trying to get the best results from the first cycle.

I might drop the dbols to 25-30mg ED, and continue the test as the same, but I'm going to see what everyone else thinks.

Should I toss in the nolvadex on when I get the symptoms?

 

[Del_Piero]

You can take preventitive measures, i.e. 10mg ed of nolva during ur cycle. However some say this reduces gains-matter of opinion I guess.

 

[DaddyX]

For ur PCT: 50mg Ed of clomid for 21 days should be ok. If you get gynos, take 20-40mg/day of nolva until symptoms disappear.

thats not a very good way of doing the PCT with clomid.
day 1 - 300mg
days 2-12 - 100mg
days 13-21 - 50mg

 

[Del_Piero]

thats not a very good way of doing the PCT with clomid.
day 1 - 300mg
days 2-12 - 100mg
days 13-21 - 50mg

Thats the answer I got from the big guns when I asked about my PCT. Although my cycle is gonna be same as his but howeve the dose of my test is half....so I guess that is the reason I got that answer!

 

[dali]

No way you'll gain 20 quality lbs on dosages that small. Up the ante man. Bump your d-bol up to 50mg, your Test up to 1000mg and replace deca with some EQ at 400mg.

 

[galaxy]

You just recommended he cycle 1750mgs for a first cycle! Are you on crack? You should be banned!

 

[manny78]

500mg of test with 25mg ED of dbols only would be enough for a first cycle. Keep the deca for your second cycle.

 

[psychedout]

No way you'll gain 20 quality lbs on dosages that small. Up the ante man. Bump your d-bol up to 50mg, your Test up to 1000mg and replace deca with some EQ at 400mg.

Time to use the karma system what its meant for.

 

[ivkk]

You guys are real helpful thanks.