Unions

[danielson]

Actually his teaching of the Holocaust sucked too. He spent a month talking about "Hitler was bad. He killed many Jews. He was psycho. They put Jews in concentration camps and cooked them." God damn man... everybody knows all of this already. Why not talk about HISTORY? Why did Hitler do it? What were the results of it? What effect did it have on the fucking war that you never said jack shit about!!!! What a dumbass.

-Warik

wierdly enough we dint spend any time on it (in any detail) while we were in class, its only when history wasnt made compulsuary others did

but i have simialr experinces in 'religious education' (really shouldnt be a plural)

2 years on bible
2 weeks on islam (purely because we were doing it in history think we only spent 2 lessons on it)
1 day on hinduism (well, 1/2 an hour on divali)
no time on buddism
no time judaism (unless u count old testament)


this was under 'state education'....under private schooling from a now bishop i think (then priest/reverent) i learnt more about other faiths than with an R.E. teacher/wannabe missionary

 

[Norman Bates]

In school i wished there were some lessons on chinese or japanese history and culture.
Instead of talking 5 times about WW2 some time should have been spent on those.

 

[dimitrios]

Teamsters Local 767 here---Ft Worth, Tx.

This year is contract year at UPS and it looks like it is going to be a dandy. They are saying $4 an hour accross the board raise for part timers. And it is not just rumors---all the stewards are backing it and the company knows that they will have to do this b/c they screwed the p/timers in the 80's. so now it is payback time.

Anyway, overall I like the Union. there are some things I dont like about how they effect the workplace. Some peole think they dont have to work b/c they are union, but these people get weaded out where i work.

I did not agree with the strike in 97 looking back now and neither does hardly any of us. There is no way on earth that we will strike this year. I heard they are trying for 20 and out---that would be cool!!

My job would not be what it is if John Casey, founder of UPS would not have asked the Teamsters to organize back in the 30's---thats right, he asked them to organize.

Sorry hunter, I can not give you more karma until after I spread it around. I will as soon as I can

 

[Puc]

I agree with Warik

talk about a first.

If an employer can find someone to do your job cheaper than you it is because you are overpaid.

The only real job security is being good at what you do. So good that your employer wants to keep you.

I am a computer consultant. My employers disagree with damn near everything I do (the hours I keep, my attire, my language, my hobbies). I rock the boat with the best of them. But, throughout the .com bust I have remained employed while everyone else I started with has been laid off (I have watched our company workforce go from 100 to 20). The reason is simple. I am brilliant and cheap. They can't afford to fire me.

 

[vinylgroover]

Unions are socialist criminals.

They had there place in the dim dark ages but they are nothing more than a hinderance to progress now steeped in corruption, blackmail and an ethos of supporting the mediocre.

 

[Bigsatan13]

If it wasnt for unions you wouldnt have weekends off your shitty job. nor would you work 9-5, you would work for scraps pal. If you think big business actually *cares* about your days off, fair pay, and overall wellness you need to pull your head out of your ass (sorry to be so blunt)

Very true! You would also have to eat dog food in your golden years. Proud member of IBEW 456 here!

 

[bigguns7]

Be a good employee and you won't get fucked. Plain and simple.

-Warik

THAT I have to disagree with. Warik you've been out of corporate America too long if you believe this. Good employees are getting fucked every hour on the hour. I hate unions, but the naivete of your above statement is surprising.

 

[Prometheus]

gotta disagree with Warik here.

what you say might be true for specialty workers in certain fields (high-tech, programming, etc.) - but that's not the case with jobs such as factory workers or unskilled labor, where managment views workers as fungible commodities.

 

[Kahn]

What a fucking moron, I thought this said Onions.

 

[aurelius]

This sounds like paranoia to me. Employers aren't out to "get" their employees. They're out to "get" the competition. You're not going to have much luck competing if you make a habit of exploiting your employees.

Do explain turn of the century working conditions.

you see, companies sometimes are out to get you. to make such blanket statements to the contrary is rediculous. for some companies, 2 billion is not enough, they need 2.000001 billion. and they'll cut your throat to get it.

Didn´t you read this post, Warik?

There´s another thread on here about "using" people. THis is the perfect example. Management "uses" wokers for profit until they thing they´re "usefulness" is gone. Then the worker is gone. Not good or bad, just the way it is. I don´t know if unions are as useful for all professions necessarily.

What you would notice is how much stronger labor is in Europe than the US, where organized labor almost seemed invisible to me.