Unions

[WODIN]

Unions are as necessary now as ever

 

[Rex]

-My dad is in the FAA union. They are not allowed to strike b/c of security purposes so I'm not too sure what his union does b/c he doesn't like to talk about it. I do know that if he wants to be a radar tech in PA, then he has to be union.

-I'm thinkin of joining the Carpenter's Union after I get out the military, or starting my own contracting business. I believe I can do both as long as I hire Union workers.

-Unions like SEPTA piss me off. Always striking. The teachers union at my school piss me off too. They're bitching about money again. They're idea of protesting is clocking in every morning at 7:45, and leaving every afternoon at 3:00. Their contract states that is the minimum they have to stay in school. I don't grasp what point they're making by doing their jobs according to the contract.

-North Eastern US has very strong ones.

-Unions have a bad stigma attached to them. Violent, lazy, and associated with organized crime.

 

[Norman Bates]

There was a time in the beginning of industrialization when striking and unions were illegal.
The employers were simply exploited and child work was common.
These conditions changed because of the unions.

 

[Whiskey]

I think that unions are a good thing. Companies now a days would pay minimum wage if they could get away with it. I was in the steel workers, for Firestone. The managment new better than to give anyone any shit, and that is how it should be. I think that unions make companies treat their employees how they should be treated. If it wasn't for unions, kiss all that medical insurance good bye.


Whiskey

 

[danielson]

This sounds like paranoia to me. Employers aren't out to "get" their employees. They're out to "get" the competition. You're not going to have much luck competing if you make a habit of exploiting your employees. I seriously doubt that the abolition of unions today would cause workers to be exploited. Of course, teachers about whom 99% of the parents and students complain who will be fired will certainly call it exploiting. People who know what they're doing will call it a wise business decision.
-Warik

if a company wants to downsize and in the process of doing so ruins a community, unions would help, or if they try anything nefarious (privatise, inpinge on saftey etc).....thats what i see unions for

so what did you get for history? your teacher sounds like a dumbass

 

[Whiskey]

Warik---- your teacher was pretty much right. With the exception of the pay part. It was harder than hell to get fired at Firestone. YOu had to really fuck up in order to get fired. Like get in a fight or something. But they could never fire you for just making mistakes or doing someting on accident, union wouldn't let them, the would try, but union was always there.

Whiskey

 

[NateDogg]

I think that unions are a good thing. Companies now a days would pay minimum wage if they could get away with it. I was in the steel workers, for Firestone. The managment new better than to give anyone any shit, and that is how it should be. I think that unions make companies treat their employees how they should be treated. If it wasn't for unions, kiss all that medical insurance good bye.


Whiskey

I am in 100% agreement with Warik on the union issue. These statements I disagree with 100%. I am sure not everyone in a union is lazy and I am sure there are hard workers in unions. However, here are my disagreements with the above:

1. Companies should pay minimum wage to someone with minimal skill. If you want to get paid more, learn a marketable skill.

2. Management is there to manage. If management feels that someone is not slacking off, and they truly are, then they should be fired. I actually worked for a company a while back, while in college. Yes, I was in the union, but I worked my ass off. There was one guy there that did absolutely nothing, I mean NOTHING, EVER, laziest person on the planet. They had been trying to fire him for three years, but could not...because of the union. BULLSHIT!

3. As was stated earlier, companies are not out to get their employees, they are out to get the competition. That said, if someone is useless, they should and would be fired (from an non-union job), if they work hard, they should and would recieve raises, and other accolades.

My $.02, actually I guess that's more like 5 bucks.

ND

 

[dimitrios]

Tell me what union your in and where and what your local number is and I will send my fellow Union Brothers some karma.


IBEW Local #349 Miami, Florida

 

[The Ranger]

I.B.E.W. Local 50......And God said..." Let there be light, and it was good! " And lo from the dark came forth Lineman, and unto the world they went forth to distribute it....

Ranger

 

[Warik]

I don't see what's so hard about maintaining employment through solid work ethic and productivity. What jackass would fire a skilled worker?

You know who goes first in the time of crisis? The lazy workers who whine about raises all the time and never work hard enough to deserve their current salary.

-Warik