Underground Labs

[satchboogie]

hey satch you seem to be a knowledgable bro. ever tried GTP gear or do you think its made by some young teenage punk in his parents basement? Or do you think i should just get BD because they have an excellent reputation for quality.

when it comes to GTP, i dont 'think'... I KNOW!!!!!!!!!
the gear is highest quality!

but asking me to compare GTP to BD isnt fair as im biased...
you will get bros that love GTP gear and will never touch another lab..
and some that love BD...

the only thing about BD is that there ARE fakes out there..
GTP is a smaller lab and hasnt been faked yet...

but BD, if purchased through a solid source, is a good choice too.

lets have RET on this thread to keep it fair...

 

[RADAR]

GTP is ALL i use! very good Quality stuff.

RADAR

 

[Joe Stick]

when it comes to GTP, i dont 'think'... I KNOW!!!!!!!!!
the gear is highest quality!

but asking me to compare GTP to BD isnt fair as im biased...
you will get bros that love GTP gear and will never touch another lab..
and some that love BD...

the only thing about BD is that there ARE fakes out there..
GTP is a smaller lab and hasnt been faked yet...

but BD, if purchased through a solid source, is a good choice too.

lets have RET on this thread to keep it fair...

i wasnt really serious about comparing GTP to BD because I know that both are top quality! I have much respect to all bros around and I have learned a wealth of knowledge from people like you and RADAR. I have only tried some BD products but I think maybe now I should try to use some of GTP gear because if RADAR uses it it must be good!

 

[Gman1]

the heart just scares me dude...

 

[ass_face]

I personally have never made exactly what I said above, I bought that from a popular ug. But I have made 500mg/ml EQ for myself, and also test cypionate 300. As far as assurance that the dosage is accurate, I basically just don't fuck up when I do my math. It's not rocket science, just a little bit of simple 6th grade or under math. As for sterility, I buy presterilized vials and filter the ba/bb/oil/hormone solution into those vials.

Your post kind of amused me to be honest I guess if I were dealing with some new ug I might be a little worried about things. But it is so damn easy to sterilize solutions and sterilize vials, it would have to be a pretty pitiful lab to mess that up

LOL... I totally agree. People think that sterility is such a huge issue...

Whether you autoclave your bottles and stoppers or purchase a pre-sterilized bottle... the solution will be heated to around 250 degrees anyway... this pretty much insures sterility.

After that, it is as simple as baking a cake. Most powders are 98-99% pure, so if you want to be anal about it, you can use an extra 2-3% powder in your solutions to insure the exact dosage.

 

[LITTLEMAGS]

nice post

 

[used2juice]

LOL... I totally agree. People think that sterility is such a huge issue...

Whether you autoclave your bottles and stoppers or purchase a pre-sterilized bottle... the solution will be heated to around 250 degrees anyway... this pretty much insures sterility.

After that, it is as simple as baking a cake. Most powders are 98-99% pure, so if you want to be anal about it, you can use an extra 2-3% powder in your solutions to insure the exact dosage.

Yeah sometimes I get a good laugh when some of these ug's speak of buying $20k autoclaves, etc when I know damn well they probably just use distilled water, an oven, and maybe some iso alcohol to make a sterile vial Sad thing is that it works, but people still wanna see that mentioning of an autoclave to make em feel better.

And I overdose my homemade stuff by 5%, but that's just cuz you have to buy so much of that crap in one pop, you may as well

 

[Wrongun]

Playing devils advocate then and sterility & dosage is easily acomplished even when making multiple vials opf product for resale why do we read about so many Abscess problems and tests prove very inconsistant results of both over and under dosing?

My personal view is that whilst you may take every care to get it right as you would be injecting into your own body the thread was regarding UG labs which is set up to resell product with the ''chemist'' never injecting anything into him / her self.

Again if we compare to the stringent tests Human Grade (i.e. pharm grade) products are subjected too prior to being allowed for resale into the medical market why are these so many / preocess orientated if realistically they could reduce it all but realistically all that is required is distilled water, an oven, and maybe some iso alcohol???

Do you really believe that is all that is needed to consistantly produce sterile, accurately dosed product for human consumption? if so i am astonished at how cheaply many ''risk'' their bodies that they spend years developing. If we are all honest AAS at their purist most sterile are not without risk.

Financially we spend so much on food, gyms, supplements and then try and reduce the outlay on oils we inject........amazing but just my take on it and i do understand being in the UK i do not face some of the issues that are everyday in USA

Wrongun!

 

[nomad05]

Do people worry as much about where their caps come from vs. injectables?

I guess it applies to both but the sterility should be less of a concern, although I guess you could be worried about what's in the cap/filler, etc.

Personally I go w/human if I can (Test, Deca) but for Tren/T-bol/EQ, etc. you have to go w/UG.

 

[chaquito]

only time i can and will use UG is when stacking with trenbolone or EQ.