ultram for nubain, vicoden withdrawal

[bEEfJerky]

get an oz of some bomb grass and stick it out.most of all it's about will power..

jerky..

 

[pgerardone]

Re: oh, OK...

Jesus, I wish Brett Favre knew this incredible revelation. Instead of risking his public image, he could've just gotten some Ultram... he's such a pussy, I mean, if Vicodin withdrawal is "not dangerous", he should've just toughed it out... and yeah dude, you're right that Clonidine, a anti-hypertensive drug, is of no use to someone withdrawing complaining of their heart beating threw their chest. I mean damn, is there anything Ultram can't do?
(that's sarcasm btw)

Being an ex-addict, a med student, and son of a person who used to work in a methadone clinic, I can say that jestwannagetsum's suggested course of action for someone withdrawing is much more logical and effective.

I really don't care if you are a med student or a harvard med school prof ultram works to get people off of vicoden and nubain, period! I have done it and I have advised others on how to do it and it works. Clonidine does nothing to alliviate withdrawal symptoms. It does control blood pressure but try to go to work in withdrawal with only a clonidine patch. Not everyone can afford to take 30 day off of work for a drug d re-hab or even 7 for a detox. This method gives them an alternative.
And Brett Farvre may be a pussy because there is no danger in vicoden withdrawal, NONE! It is uncomfortable, period! It is not dangerous or deadly. Alcohol and benzo withdrawal does need to be under a professional but there is nothing wrong with someone detoxing themselves off of opiates. I suggest you re-read your med school books. And btw being the son of a methadone clinic head probably makes you less qualified to tell people how to come off drugs. Methadone is worse then dope.

 

[pgerardone]

Phew!, I guess all the detox centers can shut down, they must be scammers!(sorry, I couldn't resist)

The increase in blood pressure can cause a heart attack from opiate w/d

Detoxes are not necessary for opiate withdrawal. People go there because they are scared of withdrawal and are looking for a more comfortable way, not because they need medical attention when detoxing. And as I said before, some can not afford a detox because they have no insurance.
Someone would have to be in bad shape to begin with to have a heart attack from opiate withdrawal. And with the ultram their blood pressure would never rise anyway because they never really go into withdrawal. It is a gradual taper off and worth a try since most have tried countless ways anyway. It is much better then cold turkey, which is the way most try, and fail, to kick.