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UG labs vs. vet labs vs. human grade

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jcohen

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Hey guys,

Just wanted to get a consensus on whether UG stuff is worth a try. I have only done vet and human grade cycles before, but am considering some UG gear. Possibly Couture Labs. If anyone has any experience that may help me, I would appreciate it.

25 yrs.
190 lbs.
5'7"
4 cycles completed
 
couture is amazingly sloooooowwwwww. expect at the very minimum of a months wait after funds land. consider choosing an alternate source if this would effect your decision.
 
jcohen said:
Hey guys,

Just wanted to get a consensus on whether UG stuff is worth a try. I have only done vet and human grade cycles before, but am considering some UG gear. Possibly Couture Labs. If anyone has any experience that may help me, I would appreciate it.

25 yrs.
190 lbs.
5'7"
4 cycles completed
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Human grade is number #1 preference.
 
jcohen:


UG & human grade are practically the same as far as size & strength is concerned. I always go with UG cause it's cheaper.........................
 
Price no option = Human Grade

Vet Gear = Mostly gone now that US killed steroid production in Mexico

UG = Very good if you get a good one. I can personally attest to Syrus, Orbit, and Couture. Couture has been know to be slow, but if you can wait - they are solid and the prices are unbeatable.
 
tempest2003 said:
couture is amazingly sloooooowwwwww. expect at the very minimum of a months wait after funds land. consider choosing an alternate source if this would effect your decision.
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minimum of months dude? wtf?
 
did couture ever give an explanation on why it takes so long? wouln't mind given it a try.
 
gautho said:
did couture ever give an explanation on why it takes so long? wouln't mind given it a try.
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It is the nature of their operation. They always come through, and the products are great. I would ask in advance how long it will take. They will be strait with you.
 
tempest2003 said:
couture is amazingly sloooooowwwwww. expect at the very minimum of a months wait after funds land. consider choosing an alternate source if this would effect your decision.
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They advertise their turn around as 14 days at the long end. Got mine at day 14. Excellent products and he was in contact with me the whole time, but I hate waiting that long for a package. Best tren I've EVER used.

Chris
 
Thanks for all of the responses. I really appreciate your advice. I'm not sure of how the whole karma thing works, but I tried to give everyone that replied good karma. Only problem is I don't have any karmic power, so I'm not sure if it worked. Anyway, I have the time to wait a month, so I will try the UG this time. I'll be sure to let everyone know how it worked out. Thanks again.
 
It's cause everyone wants to order from them. Its not worth even buying VEt stuff cause its more expensive and on the same caliber of quality.
 
There is no comparison since each one is made by different standard

UG is a russian rulette you can get some good stuff or you can get shit (it all depends on the guy doing the stuff in their kitchen or basemant garage etc....)

Vet (till december at least the companies out of mexico where regulated by the goverment)

Human grade ( most of that is good, but as amp fillers are cheap you can get some fakes)

all is a gamble unless you know where they coming from and even so you can get shit...

good luck
 
There is a bit of confusion here on pharm grade and human grade. Pharm grade = pharmaceutical grade steroids, like schering, also human grade. However, you have VET grade steroids produced by pharmaceutical companies, which I consider VET pharm grade.

Some products are just not found in "human grade" form, like EQ.

UG steroids are cheaper but no as reliable. Companies like BD are no different then any other UG, they just have nice pretty labels.
 
I disagree. Obviously pharm is best. However some UG's are run just as good or many times much better than pharm. Ive seen real pharms and seen how they actually make medications. But still obviously pharm is best choice overall.

Now on the Vet UG issue. It all depends on the company. You cant rationally compare apples to oranges. There are reputable companys in UG and bad ones. Simple. Just as in Vet there are reputable and bad ones.

I would much rather take a very shitty UG lab over a Brovell or others.

Its all about the particular brand. You definately dont want people who make that in their basement.

Syrus for example....is "UG" Ive yet to hear 1 complaint personally on quality. Why they are more reputable than most "Vet" labs. Vet labs IMO have always been shady. I can see the "sterility" procedures in those labs in some shit house in MX....after ive seen the conditions in a FDA approved US lab that makes major vaccines etc. Lets say this...its not what you see in the movies.

My.002
 
PolfaJelfa said:
However some UG's are run just as good or many times much better than pharm. Ive seen real pharms and seen how they actually make medications. But still obviously pharm is best choice overall.
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I don't know any UG labs with a license or regulatory body to oversee them. I could never compare UG steroids to pharm. grade steroids, it's a false comparison because there is no contest. Today the UG steroid batch is good, tomorrow it's not. however, there is an up-side, the price.

Btw...I don't necessarily consider mexican gear pharm grade quality, more like VET grade. When we talk about pharm grade, we are talking about companies like schering.
 
Reputable labs get their ingredients from the exact same places as "pharm grade"

The pharm grade labs have just as much chance for something bad in that case. Assuming the UG lab tests their stuff and actually cares about people.

Im not saying UG is better. Pharm is a no brainer if its made in a good country.

As far as Vet lab clasification....that whole quality control is much less than most UG labs..even the crapier ones. Know plenty of people who have gotten abscesses, infections from Vet gear. There are numerous thread even here about people fidnign particles and things in theri Vet vials. Foreign objects.

Vet and UG = Same playing field IMO.
Its all about the company.
 
Mr.X said:
I don't know any UG labs with a license or regulatory body to oversee them. I could never compare UG steroids to pharm. grade steroids, it's a false comparison because there is no contest. Today the UG steroid batch is good, tomorrow it's not. however, there is an up-side, the price.

Btw...I don't necessarily consider mexican gear pharm grade quality, more like VET grade. When we talk about pharm grade, we are talking about companies like schering.
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Hey bro. What's your opinion on ANCILLARY GUYS?

BONZ
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Reputable labs get their ingredients from the exact same places as "pharm grade"
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That's not correct. Pharmaceutical companies have a lot of powder products made locally or in-house.

I've tried many UG steroids and none have come close to pharmaceutical grade.

Either way, people can make their own decisions, but I stand by my guns on AS use.
 
UG depends soley on your supplier, you never know, however your "Human Grade" is just as easily fake. I am homebrewing from now on.
 
Mr.X said:
they don't sell steroids, this discussion is about steroid suppliers
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The title of this thread is "UG labs vs vet labs vs human grade".

Arimidex by Astra Zeneca vs Liquidex by a research company, how
does this not fit in the discussion???

You have the ag-guys banner in your signature, yet you always seem
to put down UG products in favour of pharm grade. How the same
rules don't apply to Nolva, Clomid and T3 especially makes no sense
whatsoever. I'm not trying to be rude, you just seem to be
contradicting yourself.
 
the thread was an impied reference towards steroids, not towards ancillaries,,, but yes to answer your q, ag-guys are great, AND, i dont think you are as big a jackass as you are trying to be, i think you are trying to start shit, which is not the purpose of this forum, the real purpose of this forum is to be a learning tool for people who want to use AAS as healthily as possible,,, Thank you for your posts and input into the topics at hand, im sure they will provide enlightenment,

Ego Boner
 
I am with Bonz on this. Lets keep it real.

Ag guys are UG too....if you want to call all UG labs not worthwile that would apply to them too. There is no difference between clen, aas, t3, ai's, etc. Its all medication.

Point being...there are great UG labs for AAS just like Ag Guys area a GREAT LAB for Ancilarys. Then there are horrible Ancilary labs just like there are horrible UG labs for AAS. I think this is common sense.
 
A reliable UG lab is golden. Raw test is raw test is raw test no matter if some ass-raping pharm. company bottles it or a fellow bro who wants to save a shit load of money using his favorite compound time and time again.
 
tempest2003 said:
couture is amazingly sloooooowwwwww. expect at the very minimum of a months wait after funds land. consider choosing an alternate source if this would effect your decision.
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I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CONTOUR ALWAYS RECEIVED IN DAYS
 
scout69 said:
I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CONTOUR ALWAYS RECEIVED IN DAYS
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Yep. I'm a long standing customer of his and i've never had a problem with any other package (probably 10 before) but the most recent was slow. He's a busy man.
 
Im not shooting anything that has a picture of a horse or cow on the package/vial. UG over vet in my book.
 
Couture is laying low right now, he will be back to normal VERY soon. He has taken some time off to catch up on some old orders.
 
UG stuff is def worth a try IMO, not only for price but un-beatable selection. I have used both human grade and UG stuff and to be honest I didn't notice 1 bit of a diffrence. I have used Syrus only in the last 3 cycles I have done and will continue to due so for as long as I am activly using AAS. I would put Syrus quality up against any company in the market today. There are also some other quality UG labs making a name for themselfs now as well.

M18
 
I loved the Vet stuff when it was widely available. I had positive results with all of it except the Winstrol (Stanazol) which was more than particles, it was downright chunky! I have used Human grade as well which is great as long as it is legit. I always assumed the big difference was more in the sterility of human pharma stuff, not so much in the effectiveness as long as the gear was from a reputable supplier. I always worried a little when I injected VET stuff, so I tended to shy away from it (especially after the chunky winstrol incident). I took more than a little Reforvit (DBOL) liquid orally, and had great results.

For injectibles, I would always take human pharma over anything else; however, there is the availability issues and there are fakes out there (i.e., Primobolan). For test, I was able to get test cyp for years thru my doc so I would save up 6-12 months worth to do my cycles and combine it with BD Tren or EQ, or Thai dbol, etc. (1-2 cycles per year). It's been a few years since my last cycle, so good to know UG seems relatively well received by the members here. I plan out my cycles well in advance, so a month is fine as long as I get it and it kicks ass!

Great thread...
 
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