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U.S. soldiers fire into van carrying 13 women and children

the way reporting usually goes:

today- uhmmmmm...they ran the checkpoint, so we had to fire

tomorrow (after some public outrage) - women and children were ALLEGEDLY carrying what SEEMED to be machine guns, so naturally soldiers opened fire

couple of days after (after some more public outrage) - soldiers found something that APPEARED to be barrels full of chemical weapons in the van

couple of weeks after (its all quite now, they bougth the chem weapons story, nobody cares anymore) - psycho soldier at the checkpoint got pissed off the way they were looking at him and opened fire

Sometimes I wish you would run a checkpoint! But I don't think War canoes can run on land! Just an observation!
 
Centurion said:
the way reporting usually goes:

today- uhmmmmm...they ran the checkpoint, so we had to fire

tomorrow (after some public outrage) - women and children were ALLEGEDLY carrying what SEEMED to be machine guns, so naturally soldiers opened fire

couple of days after (after some more public outrage) - soldiers found something that APPEARED to be barrels full of chemical weapons in the van

couple of weeks after (its all quite now, they bougth the chem weapons story, nobody cares anymore) - psycho soldier at the checkpoint got pissed off the way they were looking at him and opened fire
I think the "psycho soldier" scenario you describe is about as likely to be true as the "barrels full of chemical weapons" story.

The van could have been carrying 13 people selling girl scout cookies - the soldiers still made the decision to take action that they believed may have very well prevented the deaths of themselves and their buddies.

From the events described, whether any weapons are found or not, they were justified.
 
Hi! My Name is DCup and I am on Lithium.

Mind Drug free bro! I would not want to alter the superior synapses in-between my neurons in my cerebrum!
 
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.van.shooting/index.html

"...soldiers from the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division -- manning a checkpoint on Route 9 near Najaf --motioned for an approaching van to stop, but were ignored by the driver, the statement said.

The soldiers fired warning shots into the air which also were ignored and then shot at the vehicle's engine, "but it continued moving toward the checkpoint," the statement said. Soldiers were unable to see into the van."

sooooooo...they had enough time, first to make sure that it wouldnt stop, to shoot in the air, to shoot at the engine, to shoot at the passangers and they were still so far away that they couldnt see the van was full of women and kids (typical suicide bombing package, eh)

so they either motioned for an approching van to stop some 200 meters away(hmmmmmm), or van was going 10/hour while they were shooting at it planning to run a checkpoint (hmmmmmmm), or somebody was triggerhappy and didnt give two shits about "sandniggers" (HMMMMMMMMMMMM)

i dont know about you, but i wouldnt want to be "liberated" if this is next couple of years of "freedom"

bottom line :
fact- women and kids full of bullets
alleged reports - everything else
 
Centurion said:
sooooooo...they had enough time, first to make sure that it wouldnt stop, to shoot in the air, to shoot at the engine, to shoot at the passangers and they were still so far away that they couldnt see the van was full of women and kids (typical suicide bombing package, eh)
Lets put your ass at that gate. You make the call.


(BTW, my car is in my driveway about 35 yards out my open window. I cannot see inside of it.)
 
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