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metisse said:
We should remember that, stripped of political spins, the U S. unleashed the greatest war machine the earth has ever seen against a poor soverign nation that was not harming us in any way. We "conquered" them in a matter of days. Since our invasion over 100,000 Iraq citizens have died, 200,000 injuried, their cities bombed, all so we can have their oil at 10 cents on the dollar. When did we become so ruthless and heartless that we are willing to kill tens of thousand of innocent people so our oil supplies and big business profits are assured. This is such a brutal grab of another countries resourses by a superior military power that is hard to believe anyone could support it.
why o why did i not lissen to lestat and save some hits for people like this tonight.
 
metisse said:
We should remember that, stripped of political spins, the U S. unleashed the greatest war machine the earth has ever seen against a poor soverign nation that was not harming us in any way. We "conquered" them in a matter of days. Since our invasion over 100,000 Iraq citizens have died, 200,000 injuried, their cities bombed, all so we can have their oil at 10 cents on the dollar. When did we become so ruthless and heartless that we are willing to kill tens of thousand of innocent people so our oil supplies and big business profits are assured. This is such a brutal grab of another countries resourses by a superior military power that is hard to believe anyone could support it.

furthermore, your post is super inaccurate...that 100,000 number is the number of casualties between desert storm and the current conflict...a period over 10 yrs. lots of those deaths have been attributed to saddam as well. fucking hater
 
Gambino said:
testboy, the arch-nemeisis of captilaism and american success


Testboy is one of the more capitalistic guys here. Having a heart doesn't mean that I don't enjoy a profit.

Having a heart and a mind does guarantee that I will question current events.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Testboy is one of the more capitalistic guys here. Having a heart doesn't mean that I don't enjoy a profit.

Having a heart and a mind does guarantee that I will question current events.

so then you understand that exxon's supposive record profits were allowed by people like yourself purchasing their product? why should they be scorned?
 
bomb....done
 
Testosterone boy said:
Testboy is one of the more capitalistic guys here. Having a heart doesn't mean that I don't enjoy a profit.

Having a heart and a mind does guarantee that I will question current events.

I suppose you got that blueprints story from that cheesy-assed NY Times hack. We did send blueprints that were fake to Iran in an attempt to thwart thier ability to create a nuclear trigger. I guess you could twist your mouth in such a way to create the impression that we sent nuke blueprints to guage thier progress, but that would just be facetious. I hear you might be a pretty good photographer, stick to that. Your political insight isn't fit for Coast to Coast AM or even Shortwave, for that matter.
 
metisse said:
We should remember that, stripped of political spins, the U S. unleashed the greatest war machine the earth has ever seen against a poor soverign nation that was not harming us in any way. We "conquered" them in a matter of days. Since our invasion over 100,000 Iraq citizens have died, 200,000 injuried, their cities bombed, all so we can have their oil at 10 cents on the dollar. When did we become so ruthless and heartless that we are willing to kill tens of thousand of innocent people so our oil supplies and big business profits are assured. This is such a brutal grab of another countries resourses by a superior military power that is hard to believe anyone could support it.
Somehow I expected this jackass to be blacked out, before I even opened the thread.
SLACKERS!
 
JavaGuru said:
I can play devil's advocate, even though I was against the Iraq war. The Gulf War ceasefire was in constant violation by Iraq up until the day the US invaded; The US had a Cassus Bellum for that alone. Also, your casualty estimates are just that and biased. Over the next twenty years what are Saddam's murders and human right violations Vs. those who died during the invasion. Remember, there was an embargo against Iraq because of Saddam the left claimed caused 10k casualties per year by itself. At the end of the day, US policy is one of helping Iraq and the insurgents are the one's causing the problems with transition. If there were no insurgents, Iraq would be on its way to economic prosperity like Japan and Germany before them.

biased? they smack of amnesty international numbers a year and more old...and amnesty international is hardly an organisation that i would call biased. if anything they are likely understated, and do not take into account the more subtle harms caused through the use of depleted uranium throughout iraq, which im sure you reaslise are themselves classified as a weapon of mass destruction via their long term, diffuse harm causing potential.

furthermore the embargo against iraq was arguably due to american political pressure, rather than saddams recalcitrance - and it didnt cause 10k deaths a year. it probably caused that a MONTH. mostly in children, via malnutrition and lack of basic medicine.

furthermore it is arguable that there are no insurgents in iraq, regardless of what westerm media have coined them, since the conflict over there is more aptly described as a defense against invasion/occupation, and NOT an insurrection against an established governmental apparatus.

your statement that iraq would be on its way to economic prosperity "like japan and germany before them" is also flawed. iraq was already quite prosperous before gulf war 1, and would ahve continued to be so, despite reparations, if it were not for the embargo inflicted upon them by western powers. iraq had excellent healthcare and education for its citizens. the embargo itself was directly responsible for undermining iraqi social and health services to such a degree that, shall we say...undesireable elements were allowed to flourish, allowing for the creation and nurturing of dissilusioned, brutalised people capable of committing extreme acts.

the west engineered the situation in iraq. everything is going ahead according to plan.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
biased? they smack of amnesty international numbers a year and more old...and amnesty international is hardly an organisation that i would call biased. if anything they are likely understated, and do not take into account the more subtle harms caused through the use of depleted uranium throughout iraq, which im sure you reaslise are themselves classified as a weapon of mass destruction via their long term, diffuse harm causing potential.

furthermore the embargo against iraq was arguably due to american political pressure, rather than saddams recalcitrance - and it didnt cause 10k deaths a year. it probably caused that a MONTH. mostly in children, via malnutrition and lack of basic medicine.

furthermore it is arguable that there are no insurgents in iraq, regardless of what westerm media have coined them, since the conflict over there is more aptly described as a defense against invasion/occupation, and NOT an insurrection against an established governmental apparatus.

your statement that iraq would be on its way to economic prosperity "like japan and germany before them" is also flawed. iraq was already quite prosperous before gulf war 1, and would ahve continued to be so, despite reparations, if it were not for the embargo inflicted upon them by western powers. iraq had excellent healthcare and education for its citizens. the embargo itself was directly responsible for undermining iraqi social and health services to such a degree that, shall we say...undesireable elements were allowed to flourish, allowing for the creation and nurturing of dissilusioned, brutalised people capable of committing extreme acts.

the west engineered the situation in iraq. everything is going ahead according to plan.

bor you are a stubborn fuck...must be nice not being the target of these terroist fucks. if your country was attacked you wouldn't be such a sympathizer...
 
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