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Tyson Or Lewis? (what Round?)

IRON MIKE OR LONG ARM LEWIS?

  • TYSON WINS BY KO IN LESS THAN 5

    Votes: 35 42.2%
  • LEWIS WINS BY KO IN LESS THAN 5

    Votes: 23 27.7%
  • FIGHT GOES ALL 12 FOR DECISION

    Votes: 16 19.3%
  • WHO CARES! I HATE BOTH OF THEM. BOXING IS A FUCKING JOKE!

    Votes: 9 10.8%

  • Total voters
    83
I think the fight will last longer than 5 rounds so I voted for decision.

That is unless someone gets disqualified.

JC
 
Lewis

I believe Lewis will make him look & feel like a fool. I also think that it will be a win by disqual, Tyson wont be able to handle Lewis keeping him outside w/his long ass jab, Mike is totally unstable & will probably do something stupid. If not, I think Lewis will eventually knock him out, I'll say 6th round for the hell of it. Ya know, no matter who Lewis beats & no matter how good he looks that guy has never been given the credit that he deserves. He's the best there is in the heavyweight division & has been for a while. Wonder how much Halo Mikes taking? :D
 
GOOD POINT

LEWIS IS UNDER RATED NO DOUBT, BUT HES BEEN KNWN TO HAVE A GLASS JAW AND IF TYSON GET IN CLOSE YOU KNOW WHERE THATS GO....
 
Re: Lewis

supertech69 said:
I believe Lewis will make him look & feel like a fool. I also think that it will be a win by disqual, Tyson wont be able to handle Lewis keeping him outside w/his long ass jab, Mike is totally unstable & will probably do something stupid. If not, I think Lewis will eventually knock him out, I'll say 6th round for the hell of it. Ya know, no matter who Lewis beats & no matter how good he looks that guy has never been given the credit that he deserves. He's the best there is in the heavyweight division & has been for a while. Wonder how much Halo Mikes taking? :D

I think for Tyson discontinuing the Paxil gives him the effect that normal people get from adding Halo! :D

JC
 
TYSON IS SOME NASTY GEAR ID SAY

NOTE THE NO HAIR APPROACH AND INSANELY INCREASED MASS.....GOTTA BE TEST AND A LITTLE A-BOMB...MAYBE SOME WINNY
 
Re: Re: Lewis

joncrane said:


I think for Tyson discontinuing the Paxil gives him the effect that normal people get from adding Halo! :D

JC

I'd have to agree w/that! He needs to be on Lithium or something! There's no doubt that if Lewis lets him in, he's facing that possibility. No matter how crazy & lacking inboxing skills he is, that mother fucka can hit!
 
Who Cares?

How long has it been since a heavyweight match went the distance? No more pay per views for me.......I'd rather watch the little guys on showtime.....they are much more athletic and entertaining....besides boxing is for fairies........combat hapkido now there's a sport.........MAN NO MORE FINA FOR ME!!!!!!!!!:mad:
 
Tyson is not known for going the distance, he's all about power. I hope he wins but I think if it goes after 5 rounds Lewis has a very good chance of beating him.

SWOLL
 
i know what you mean about the little guys--here we have boxing from the Ballroon in Glen Burnie on Comcast Sports Net and I always watch it when I'm flicking channels.

Great to see local guys scrapping it out.
 
Pitbullsts--

Boxing is for pussies?

Right now this instant, from that remark alone, I can tell everything about your level of intensity.

Not much.
 
Tyson is going to knock that pretty boy out, nor problem.

Tyson is going to hit hard as a MOTHERFUCKER with that extra weight.
 
I really don't see how anyone can predict this..anything can happen. They say Lewis doesn't have the heart to stay in the ring against an aggressive Tyson..but who the hell knows but we'll see soon enough.
 
Tyson is with Showtime and Lewis is WIth HBO so it'll be co-produced and shown on HBO PPV. I'm also looking forward to the Rahman v. Holyfield fight the week before
 
Tyson either has to win this fight or something very stupid happen again so their can be a rematch----

its a money game---if tyson wins---the money will be so huge again for the rematch---Hard to give that up---

if Tyson loses, i just don't see the alure of a rematch-hense the money probably won't be as large----

I say Tyson wins big------just to make the rematch worth that much more-----

Its not like any of these guys are undefeated---so they could care less------The money is to large for tyson to lose----
 
HERE IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN...

LEWIS will come out on top!!! Tyson talks way to much shit anymore and is not in a mindset to take on the best there is right now. When i look at Tyson and for that matter Lewis i see 2 steroid heads that are pussys for being on the shit. If you put these 2 athletes in the ring with Ali in his prime no doubt the NATURAL would win over the crazzzy NOT-SO-NATURAL. Either way Lennox is going to win bottom line no strings attached. It wont last past round 5 and Tyson may even get DQ'd. They should have kept him on Riddlen!!! Now for yall who think boxing is for pussys come watch the best sport in the world...MMA presets UFC Ultimate Fighting Championships...
 
Tyson by KO inside of 8 rounds. Lewis's chin is just not going to be able to hold up under the pressure. Lewis has never fought anyone with Tyson's speed, power, or aggressiveness. Its a losing battle for Lewis.
 
I voted for a 12rd decision, but now thinking about it, I don't think Tyson will last that long. If he doesn't knock out Lewis by the 6th round he'll find a way to disqualify himself.
 
Lewis couldn't put a passive Tua away so how the hell you figure he's going to put Tyson away? Logic would say he can't. Tua and Tyson have similar styles..come straight ahead and Tua did give Lewis some complications but wouldn't commit to letting it all hang out..Tyson will . Remember guys, styles make fights. It doesn't matter how dominating a fighter may look before a fight..once he steps in with a new opponent all bets are off. Like I said before it's impossible to really tell what will happen.
 
If Tyson doesn't knock the silly bitch out by the fourth round he'll do something stupid and get DQ'ed. Hate him or love him, you got to admit that crazy mofo is entertaining.
 
Tua vs Tyson . . . now that would be a good fight to watch. Tyson would win, but it would be one hell of a short, action packed fight.

I think Tyson can beat lewis. I do however think he has a good chance of loosing, because he hasn't ran into anybody of lewis caliber in forevor. Golata vs Tyson was going to be a good one, and in my opinion Golata cashed in his paycheck and robbed Tyson the real world experience in the ring he needed to come back. He hasn't run into anybody that good, nielson was alright, but nielson & golata.... and tell me anybody else of high quality he has ran into in the last years? He KO's nielson, and golata quit like a bitch when he was doing alright. In my opinion he should have stayed away from lewis for the moment and ran through a few of the other current top heavy weight contenders. I believe he can beat all of them. I even believe he could beat holyfield if he stepped into the ring with him, but mostly becuase holyfield is getting washed up. John ruiz, rahman, vladimir, tua, etc etc etc etc all of them would be better for him to run into, and I believe he would beat all of them . . . but they would get him back into a professional fighting groove. If he made it through some of those cats then there would be no question in my mind that he would be ready for lewis and would mop the floor with him. As it stands right now, I think Tyson will win, but he has a good chance of loosing because of the simple fact that he hasn't faced off with anyone of lewis's caliber in years . . . to me it is very stupid, because he stands to loose everything, where as if he ran through some of the other contenders he would have most of his respect back and he would be more prepared for lewis. But money talks and bullshit walks, we all know Tyson is igorant, unstable and has to be guided, and thats just what they have done, they have guided him to the money, cause everybody else wants their cut too.

I also don't believe in the theories about Tyson winning becuase the money will be even bigger for a rematch. Reason being is both of the guys are filthy fuckin rich and they don't need the money. I don't care if tyson tells everybody how he got robbed and screwed out of his money, maybe true, but he is still filthy rich regardless. These two guys are showin up to fight, and thats just what they are goin to do. A rematch is possible either way cause no matter what anybody says about tyson, tyson will bring in more money than lewis every will. . . . even if lewis kicks his ass. So a rematch will be big money no matter who wins, as long as tyson shows up for the 2nd.

I also do believe Ali would kick all their asses. Shit you want proof? He tricked George Foreman off, and shit foreman didn't exactly do shitty when he came out of retirement as an old man and came back to boxing. I say if foreman can do as good as he did as an aged veteran, george foreman in his prime would fuck up any modern day heavy weight in his prime, and ali would obliterate them. If those cats were around now days, don't worry they would be juiced and and as big as all the modern day cats are also. I'd say Tyson would be the only heavyweight in his prime to give foreman&ali in their prime a run for their money. I think he would have a good chance at foreman, but ali would be way to smart and slick for tyson. Shit to tell you the truth there would probably never even be a fight because ali's ass would piss off tyson so much out of the ring that tyson would probably flip out and shoot him LOLOLOL)OLOLOL ali would fuck up tysons head bad, would beat him on mentality alone, fuck boxing skills which ali had more of than tyson.
 
Tyson is a has been,

Never was anything special,

only fought bigger losers than himself,

the only real fight he was in, the loser bit like a little girl,

he going down.

"I'll moider da bum."
- Heavyweight boxer Tony Galento,
 
night, night tyson

Tyson has not fought a good fight in over a decade. He is nothing but a freak show to laugh at when he gets interviewed. Lewis is a far superior fighter, and if tyson doesn't do something stupid to get disqualified earlier in the fight, lewis will win by tko sometime after the sixth round.
 
Sago said:

and golata quit like a bitch when he was doing alright.



Uh....He quit because his freaking jaw was broke, or did you miss that one :rolleyes: . His trainer tried to get him to keep on fighting Tyson, but the next day AFTER x-rays showed Golata had a BROKE jaw, his trainer apologized to him. I would have quit to if my jaw was broke.
 
Some key points before I get started
- This thread, while badass, should probably not be in this forum
- Some people are just retarded

Provided the fight goes on, no one gets injured, and the fight doesnt end in a disqualification...

Tyson will win.

Tyson - 5'10", will likely be 225-245 at fight time
Lewis - 6'6", will likely be 240-255 at fight time

Dont let the height difference fool you. In fact, it could prove to be a disadvantage to Lewis. Tyson has a BRUTAL uppercut and his height makes it difficult to deal with Mikes uppercuts.

Next, look at the mental factors. Lewis is a fairly undisciplined fighter with a big ego. He is very cocky and that could hurt him. Rahman showed up 3-5 weeks before him at the first fight between them to train and that shows Lewis' work ethic. On the other hand, look at Tyson. I'm not going to sit here and say he has the best work ethic in the world, but it doesnt matter in his case because....HE'S CRAZY. He's on multiple anti-depressants, etc. just to keep him sane enough to keep from snapping multiple times daily. I seriously doubt he's 'scared' of Lewis as some have suggested and he does have self-control problems. If he could properly channel his anger and adrenaline, he'd still be unstoppable.

As for Mike Tyson being washed up...pleeease. He's only 35, and we've seen people as old as George Foreman win the title at age 48. Mike Tyson is an incredibly hard puncher and due to his low center of gravity he can come in low and deliver his trademark uppercut at least a few times on Lewis, who in that respect has the weakness of being tall. The crazyness will help him keep a longer career because even once he starts to fade physically (which really hasnt started to happen on a very noticeable scale), he'll still have that nutty drive.

Now as for the comment about Ali fighting Tyson and smoking him or whatever, there is no way. If you took them both, in their primes on their best days, Tyson would destroy Ali, provided the fight took place and was completed, but I'm willing to bet they wouldnt fight to a finish. I say this b/c Ali talked TONS of shit and I guarantee Mike would snap, probably before the fight ever took place. Even during his fights, Ali talked shit and Tyson would go crazy. It'd be a DQ for sure. Ali is still one of the greatest champions ever and I wont disrespect. I dont believe he could beat Tyson, but regardless, both are legends and have done more for boxing than almost anyone else.
 
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Tyson would not destroy Ali let alone even hurt him..gee's! Ali would have done circles around him..wore him down and slowly chopped him down. Tyson doesn't have it upstairs to beat Ali..come on!
 
FUKKENSHREDDED????

As to how you think you can judge my level of intensity???? Step into an octagon with me brother....anyone on the "fight" circuit can testify as to my intensity...In fact I really don't know of anyone with my build 5'11" 262 lbs 8-9% bodyfat who is as intense as I.......(in the ring).....if you still doubt this you can see me in action in two months in Dallas in a no holds barred charity match.....Brazillian jujitsu...and Combat Hapkido.....that is the way to go......no glove wearing...punch throwing has been has a chance.........BTW.......I hope Tyson kills Lewis:mad:
 
I'm done with the heavyweights, especially these two. I'm not paying for it, but I'm sure I'll watch it at someone's house. Tyson is like the metaphorical train wreck: You know you shouldn't watch, but there is something compelling about it. Tyson pissed away so much skill it's disgusting. As for the fight, I think Tyson will get frustrated if he can't KO Lewis early and do something crazy.

Tyson is the only boxer I think stands a chance in a real fight or NHB match. That motherfucker is crazy and there is no telling what he would do. Besides, I think that all those little rules in boxing are preventing Tyson from realizing his true potential.

Did you hear what he said last week talking about reporters' kids: I want to kick them in their fuckin' heads and stomp on their testacles. What a fucking freak.


Wait until Barrera v Morales 2 or DeLahoya v Vargas. Those fights are worth paying for.

Since boxing came up, anyone else think that Roy Jones is completely overrated? He hasn't fought anyone decent since Toney. He bores me to tears as well. He is a great athlete and nothing else. He can't be great until he fights other greats.
 
That's one thing that's great about Jones. There's literally no one in his weight class that is anywhere near as talented as he. A lot of people trash him but it's hard to prove you're the greatest when no one is worth a shit. He'll have to move up in weight which could be possible but the man is getting old. I can't wait to see Mosley in a rematch with Vernon Forrester( I think that's his name.) I agree, the lower weight classes are much more exciting
 
I agree with you. Part of it is not his fault: He is too big for a middle and too small for a heavy. However, he is running from Hopkins now and saying that he already beat him. True, but Hopkins is an anomaly in that he is better at 37 than he was at 27. It would be a change, however, in that Hopkins would not be the slightest bit scared of Jones.



Mosley v Forrest should be good. I thought Mosley was the shit until Forrest handed him his ass.
 
pitbullstl--

Just calling you out on an ignorant and disrespectful remark about boxing is all I was doing. Boxing is definitely not for fairies.

The mistake you are making is correlating boxing with fighting. Boxing is an ART, a DISCIPLINE, a FOCUS. It is, in fact, the very antithesis of violence. When developed to its peak, the result is Ali, Roy Jones Jr., Sugar Ray Robinson, etc...

If you were to eductate any of these individuals in the art of say, jujitsu groundfighting, their superior discipline would most likely manifest itself there as well. However, I have not noticed much similarity between a trained boxer and UFC fighters. I do tend to notice a tendency for so called 'no holds barred' fighters to want to beat up the whole fucking world, and they are always looking to fight someone. Trouble is, friend, that octagon is a SPORT, just like boxing is. Don't get the two mixed up, because you will either eventually injure someone or get injured yourself.

And about this stepping in the octagon with you. Hmmm. You know me at all? Anything about me at all? UFC is your sport, and it isn't for fairies either, but it sure is densely populated with a bunchof steroid driven, simple minded overconfident pinhead children. More so than boxing. I don't do either, by the way. But rest assured, I know fighting, and I don't like it at all. I never fight, friend, if I can help it. I know the difference between FIGHTING and SPORTS, and if you ever had to fight for your life you would sound much MUCH different than you do. So you probably think that by issuing a red herring, straw dog challenge you look tough on this board. And maybe you do look tough to the children here. But to me, you look quite different. So this talk, what is the real reason for it? You looking to prove your toughness? I already know how tough you are. Go win your fight, bro...I wish you the best. I have a great deal of respect for disciplined combatants. Hopefully, you will eventually evolve into one.
 
I hope lewis knocks him out in the 2nd round so it will make tyson look like he is highly overrated, but if lewis starts beating him tyson will do something stupid because he can always say he got disqualified because he lost his mind better than saying he got beat fair, tyson cant take that.
 
Re: Lewis

supertech69 said:
I believe Lewis will make him look & feel like a fool. I also think that it will be a win by disqual, Tyson wont be able to handle Lewis keeping him outside w/his long ass jab, Mike is totally unstable & will probably do something stupid. If not, I think Lewis will eventually knock him out, I'll say 6th round for the hell of it. Ya know, no matter who Lewis beats & no matter how good he looks that guy has never been given the credit that he deserves. He's the best there is in the heavyweight division & has been for a while. Wonder how much Halo Mikes taking? :D


You summed everything up perfectly. Lewis is a professional. Tyson is a madman with severe emotional problems. He has a sickness. The fight will start with Lennox Lewis beating him well and at that point the embarresment will make Mike's sickness surface. He will do something crazy like biting, kicking, or fighting after the bell. It kills me how people still associate Mike Tyson with the way he used to fight over 10 years ago. The Man hasn't looked anything like a champion fighter since that very early 90's period. There is absolutely no way Tyson can even compete in this fight unless it is fixed.
 
tyson has a chance. but not good

the only way tyson will win is if he knocks lewis out otherwize lewis will manhandle him.
 
For the people that watched the Tyson v. Holyfield fight, you'll remember that Tyson was getting headbutted numerous times without the ref calling shit. I can't remember if there were low blows also but headbuts for sure. Now I know biting someones ear is pretty extreme but I can understand why he became so enraged. Like I said he could have started yelling at the ref instead but if Holyfield wouldn't have kept headbutting, the fight would have been much different. If Lewis starts any dirty shit, he better be prepared for Tyson to come back 10 fold on his ass b/c he isn't gonna take. A good ref I think is gonna make or break this match. Oh yea depends on the bookies also;)
 
So you probably think that by issuing a red herring, straw dog challenge you look tough on this board. And maybe you do look tough to the children here. But to me, you look quite different. So this talk, what is the real reason for it? You looking to prove your toughness? I already know how tough you are. Go win your fight, bro...I wish you the best. I have a great deal of respect for disciplined combatants. Hopefully, you will eventually evolve into one.


thats funny , no response :D :D :D

jsn
 
I never saw anything on the news about golata getting his jaw broken and I have searched the internet and found nothing. So it would be cool if you could point me in the right direction cause I am curious about it.

Maybe he broke his jaw when someone from the crowd threw that red drink onto him from the stands as he was walkin away from the ring.

whitaker fought 6 rounds with a broken jaw.

Golata quit in the past, so its nothing new. He was a dirty fighter and was known to flip out when he didn't get his way. I don't believe he broke his jaw. Tyson has never broken anyone elses jaw inside the ring that I know of, so why him? He wasn't sayin anything aobut his jaw. What is he too stupid to tell his cornerman his jaw feels fucked up. i don't believe it, he was saying flat out he wanted to quit and that he didn't want anymore. I don't care about publicity coverups a couple days later, we all saw his true colors in the ring. He sold out, cashed in his paycheck and gave up, robbed himself of honor, robbed tyson of a real fight, and robbed the fans who paid their hard earned money to see a fight, not some big millionaire tuck his tail between his legs and run away.

To touch on the comments about Tyson takin out Ali. Sheeeeit. Did anybody watch HBO boxing last night with the george foreman commentary? What did he say? They got to talking about how ever boxer always says he wants a rematch after he looses and Foreman said after he lost to Ali he said he wanted a rematched, then he started grinnin and said but he really didn't want one, then he asked if you would want a rematch after you beat on a man for 8 rounds and then he asks you if thats all you got. I never liked Ali as a person, but boxing. . . there is no was, he is the greatest boxer in history.
 
ambulancechaser said:
I agree with you. Part of it is not his fault: He is too big for a middle and too small for a heavy. However, he is running from Hopkins now and saying that he already beat him. True, but Hopkins is an anomaly in that he is better at 37 than he was at 27. It would be a change, however, in that Hopkins would not be the slightest bit scared of Jones.



Oh please! The issue is money! Why the hell should jones give Hopkins 50% of the purse when he's already beaten him..it's a respect thing. Jones already said he'll do the fight for 60-40 split, Jones of course getting the 60% which is reasonable. But Hopkins refuses, he's the one if anybody is running.
Hopkins wouldn't do shit against Jones. Hopkins is an A rated fighter no doubt but Jones is on another level of talent and skill.
 
Hopkins/Jones will happen, folks. The real issue is not the purse, its the WEIGHT. Jones, while more talented than Hopkins (I think Jones is the best boxer to ever enter the ring) has good reason to fear Hopkins, especially at anything under 168. Hopkins is no joke, and at 160 you have to give him a good chance to win. If you look at Hopkins' fights, they were ALL tough. The ratings of the fighters were not true indicators in every fight. I mean Hopkins fought the guys that every one else was running from. I bet Hopkins on his last six fights, including Trinidad. I picked Hopkins to win by KO and bet big on it. I placed another bet on the round (10...I was wrong, but that IS the round in which he despirited Trinidad for good), and of course, I got the over under. Now Jones, remember, did not KO Hopkins. And this was when Jones was WAY better than Hopkins. Also, Jones' hands are now an issue. They hurt. Trinidad has power, people...nobody can argue that. Look how he anhilated his opponents. Joppy said he had NEVER felt anything like it. And Trinidad CONNECTED with Hopkins three times in that fight, and NOTHING. Hopkins' chin is absolute granite. He has been down, too, so that is nothing new. He got up every time and came back to win. His last six were against some heavy fucking hitters. And yet, there he stands, victorious, scrappy as fuck, and SMARTER. He is now in the spotlight. Here's another thing. Hopkins has written Roy six times over the past three years, looking for a way to make the fight happen. True, Roy beat Hopkins, but he beat the little boy Hopkins. I wonder how easy it will be to beat the man. Look for a couple more fights before this one, though. Roy will have to start dropping weight. If this fight goes off at 168, well...let's just say I won't EVER bet against Roy Jones at 168. But out of respect for Hopkins--I would predict Roy but not BET on it. At 160...well, you have to think that Hopkins will draw odds. So at, say, 2-1, I would go with Hopkins. But I would say it is a pick-em fight if there ever was one. Just like any fight between the two best.
 
Tyson can't fight his way out of a paper bag anymore. He was scared of Holyfield and fouled his way out of it. I heard him in an interview and he is definitely showing fear of Lewis. He's pissed off because he came up to Lewis on the steet one time with his wife and Lewis basically called him a bitch in front of her and walked away. Tyson will get his payday, but he hasn't beated anybody halfway decent in ten years. Oh, wait...he's never beaten anybody good.
 
please allow me to quote mike tyson:

"look at you scared now, you hoe. scared like a little white pussy. scared of the real man. ill fuck you till you love me, faggot."

for those who dont know that was at a press conference.

i hope he loses, he is just a trashy fucker who's body i wish i had.

i heard somewhere that has punch was the equivalent to putting a phone book up against your head and hitting it as hard as you could with a bat. yeowch
 
I read an article from ESPN today. Holyfield has fought lennox lewis twice. He said he believes Tyson will win over lennox lewis

"Because Lennox doesn't fight like me," -----Where Holyfield beat Tyson by meeting aggression with aggression, he figures Lewis will back up and jab. "They will fight at a pace that Lennox doesn't want to fight at," he said.------

I also just read another article from ESPN where they interviewed Tommy Brooks, tysons trainer. Brooks was fired, and this is what he had to say AFTER he was fired. In the article he more or less claims that it was from backstabbers leading tyson around trying to get the money, that led to him being fired. Brooks had previously been Holyfields trainer, but left. After leaving Holyfield he moved to Mike Tyson. Anyway, this is what he had to say in the article.

"He's got more talent in his little finger than most all the rest of them," Brooks said. "Even now."

"(Tyson's) been cutting corners for so long, I'm not sure he knows another way now," Brooks said. "I'm regretful that a guy with so much talent and ability just went down the tubes. That's why I left Evander Holyfield. But if I had any indication that my watch with him would be like this, I would've stayed with Evander."

"I'm disappointed that I didn't see the guy back to the title, but I'm relieved that I don't have to deal with the idiots around him anymore. You've got guys backstabbing you, undermining what you're trying to accomplish in the gym. A majority of them didn't see the big picture. They were just living paycheck to paycheck from him."

Asked if tyson truly wanted the fight with lewis Brooks said: "At times he does and at times, he doesn't," Brooks said. "If he could go fight Lewis and not train, he'd do it. He'd just show up and take his best shot on sheer ability. Mike only trained for two weeks, and he made it 11 rounds with Holyfield."

Well there you have it. Holyfield, who lost to lewis, and fought to a draw with lewis, but has two wins over Tyson, believes tyson will beat lewis. You have tommy brooks who has trained both holyfield and tyson, saying that Tyson has more talent than anyone out there but its being wasted. You have brooks saying that Tyson only trained for two weeks before fighting and going 11 rounds with Holyfield.

These two articles say a whole lot.
 
An interesting article

http://sports.espn.go.com/boxing/columns/kellerman_max/1380512.html

Something else to consider after reading that article is the statements of the previous post I made. Bear in mind lewis beat holyfield once and fought to a draw. I don't however believe lewis is better. Tyson lost twice to holyfield, but only one of them was by knockout. He went 11 rounds after only two weeks training. Now also consider what else tommy brooks said, who was the trainer for both holyfield and tyson. He said tyson is better than any of them, that includes holyfield.

Kind of puts a whole new spin on everything.
 
http://www.itv.com/news/Sport1533796.html

more quotes from Evander Holyfield

"Mike will knock Lewis out. There is no doubt in my mind. I believe that 100 per cent. It is a clash of styles and unless Lewis can change to what Tyson has to offer, then he will come unstuck."

"When Lennox fought me he just wanted to avoid getting hurt. But Tyson won't let him get away with it. I can't see Lewis winning this even though he has the height and weight advantage. Tyson just loves getting inside and hitting the bigger guys. He's made a whole career out of doing that."
 
muscle_geek said:
He was scared of Holyfield and fouled his way out of it. I heard him in an interview and he is definitely showing fear of Lewis. He's pissed off because he came up to Lewis on the steet one time with his wife and Lewis basically called him a bitch in front of her and walked away.

I don't know about that bro. Where can I find this interview or article. I really doubt Tyson would just let Lennox walk away if he came up to him and his wife and called him a bitch.
 
Not many good choices in this stupid poll. but its gonna be Tyson the pitbull in more than 5. Where did u guys see he put on mass ? Tyson cant even keep his sparring partners. They are dropping like flies. The pitbull against a saint bernard.
 
I suppose it is just wrong to reply to this thread and not predict. So here goes...

My reasoning here is as follows: Lewis loses when he is afraid. This has been demonstrated throughout his career. Now, the Tua fight is totally unrelated to this fight, because there is no comparing Tua to Tyson. Not even in the power department. Tua was and is all hype. That is not true about Tyson. Lewis's dominion over Holyfield is a classic example of two boxer's styles making the fight easy for the bigger guy. Again, the same will not apply in the fight with Tyson. Lastly, Lewis has a suspect chin, which menas that the question can be boiled down to this---would anyone bet against Tyson if he is in the ring with an opponent with a suspect chin? So betting AGAINST Tyson here without long odds is purely foolish.

Now Tyson--
Those of you who are suggesting that he never beat anybody are exposing your ignorance. Tyson was a fucking monster, no doubt about it. And I GUARANTEE you people weren't BETTING AGAINST HIM IN HIS PRIME, WERE YOU? Nope. Didn't think so. In fact, you were probably among the thronggs of people who were touting him as the greatest ever, saying how he would beat Ali and so on. Suffice it to say that Tyson WAS a great BOXER, as well as a natural FIGHTER. Now, he is only a fighter. Which is why his matches are always so entertaining to us. We aren't really even watching a sport when we watch a Tyson match. It is about something entirely different for Tyson now. The only question in a Tyson match is: WILL HE TRAIN PROPERLY? His greatest asset as a boxer back in his prime was NOT his power, it was his ELUSIVENESS. No one could hit him. Watch the fights. I have, over and over. He bobbed and weaved like a badger. Which gave him a way inside. Which resulted in him connecting with his opponents, and this guy only has to connect once to end the whole thing. Cus saw this immediately. He saw the raw power and concluded that all that was necessary was a way INSIDE. If he could accomplish that he could beat anyone. Which he did. Now, if the last ten years are any indicator of the upcoming fight (and how could they not be?) we have to doubt the actual effectiveness of his training. However, Tyson has evolved somewhat as human being, and while he is still theatrical, he has acquired a certain introspective quality that cannot be dismissed.

Finally, I do not think that Tyson has to be at his best to beat Lewis, but I think Lewis has to be at his best to win, because a single error on Lewis' part will get him KO'd. Factor in conditioning, which is WAY in Tyson's favor, and you wind up with the probability that Tyson knocks Lewis out. When?

Your guess is as good as mine, but I say pretty early, if he doesn't foul out. Let me pin it down...

Tyson in four or less, by KO.
 
damn did I miss this fight? when is it? my sat. has been down just got programer and back up. can you tell me when the fight is please , fuck I hope i didnt miss it thnx
 
Well there's no doubt that Lewis does have a suspect Chin. There is also no doubt that if he is able to frustrate Tyson(as Holyfield, & Douglas(and to a lesser extent Ruddock) did by keeping him at bay with a long jab--which Lewis DOES have), then he takes away the most important thing that Tyson always seems to have going into his fights--that being, his aura of invincibility. It seems that once Mike loses the intimidation & invincibility factor, his loss of confidence in his own abilities isn't very far behind. Tyson will either knock him out, OR Lewis will frustrate him & Mike will pull a "No Mas". I wonder if there are any odds on the "No Mas" thing in Vegas..........
 
This is how the fight will go!I gurantee it.

Tyson will come out strong but will be out boxed by Lewis.By rounds 5-7 Tyson will realize he cannot beat him & then he will do something crazy & get disqualified.Just like he did when Holyfield was beating his ass.He will soon after be banned from boxing for good.I believe this will be his last time boxing so enjoy it.
 
tzan said:


I don't know about that bro. Where can I find this interview or article. I really doubt Tyson would just let Lennox walk away if he came up to him and his wife and called him a bitch.

go 2 espn.com and click on boxing, it is there i read it yesterday. They also say tyson is already in great shape for the fight training in maui and with a lot of time 2 train still left.
 
MIke Tyson Timeline

1978 -- Arrested for purse snatching as a 12-year-old in Brooklyn and sent to Tryon School for Boys.

1979 -- A boxing instructor at a New York State correction facility for boys brings Tyson to the attention of Cus D'Amato, who guided Floyd Patterson to the heavyweight title.

March 6, 1985 -- In his professional debut, Tyson defeats Hector Mercedes in one round.

Nov. 22, 1986 -- Tyson knocks out Trevor Berbick in the second round, winning the WBC heavyweight title to become the youngest heavyweight champion in history at age 20.

March 3, 1987 -- Tyson defeats James ``Bonecrusher'' Smith in Las Vegas to win the WBA heavyweight title.

June 21, 1987 -- A parking lot attendant says Tyson tried to kiss a female employee and struck the male attendant. He is charged with misdemeanor assault and battery and assault with a deadly weapon, and pays $105,000 to settle the case.

Aug. 1, 1987 -- Tyson beats Tony Tucker to retain the WBA-WBC heavyweight titles and win the IBF heavyweight title.

Feb. 9, 1988 -- Actress Robin Givens and Tyson marry in New York.

Aug. 23, 1988 -- Tyson breaks a bone in his right hand in a 4 a.m. street brawl with boxer Mitch Green in Harlem.

Sept. 30, 1988 -- Givens says in a nationally televised interview that Tyson is a manic-depressive and that she is afraid of him. Tyson sits meekly next to her.

Oct. 2, 1988 -- Police go to Tyson's Bernardsville, N.J., home after he hurls furniture out the window and forces Givens and her mother to flee the house.

Oct. 7, 1988 -- Givens files for divorce.

Feb. 14, 1989 -- Tyson and Givens are divorced in the Dominican Republic.

Feb. 11, 1990 -- In a stunning upset, Tyson is knocked out by James ``Buster'' Douglas in the 10th round and loses his world heavyweight title.

July 18, 1991 -- Tyson meets Desiree Washington, a beauty pageant contestant, at a rehearsal. They go to the boxer's hotel room in the early morning hours.

Sept. 9, 1991 -- A special grand jury indicts Tyson on rape and three other charges. Two days later, he is booked in Indianapolis and released on a $30,000 cash bond.

Jan.-March 1992 -- Tyson is convicted of rape and sentenced to 10 years in prison, four suspended.

March 25, 1995 -- Tyson is released from the Indiana Youth Center near Plainfield, Ind.

August 19, 1995 -- Tyson begins comeback with 89-second victory over Peter McNeeley in Las Vegas.

March 16, 1996 -- Tyson knocks out Frank Bruno in third round to win the WBC heavyweight title in Las Vegas.

Nov. 9, 1996 -- Evander Holyfield stops Tyson in the 11th round for the WBA title.

April 1997 -- Tyson marries Monica Turner in New York.

June 28, 1997 -- Tyson is disqualified after the third round for biting Holyfield's ears. Tyson claims he was retaliating for a head butt inflicted by Holyfield that opened up a gash above his right eye. Referee Mills Lane says the butt was accidental.

July 9, 1997 -- The Nevada State Athletic Commission, in a 5-0 vote, revokes Tyson's boxing license and fines him $3 million for biting Holyfield. Tyson, who also is ordered to pay legal costs, can apply for reinstatement of his license in one year.

March 5, 1998 -- Tyson files a $100 million lawsuit against Don King, accusing the promoter of cheating him out of tens of millions of dollars.

Aug. 31, 1998 -- Tyson is involved in a minor auto accident in Gaithersburg, Md., and kicks and punches two men from other cars.

Oct. 19, 1998 -- The Nevada Athletic Commission votes 4-1 to restore Tyson's boxing license.

Jan. 16, 1999 -- Tyson knocks out Francois Botha with 1 second left in the fifth round in his first fight in 19 months. It is only Tyson's seventh fight in eight years. At the end of four rounds, all three judges have Botha ahead.

Feb. 5, 1999 -- Tyson is sentenced to two concurrent two-year sentences for assaulting the two motorists after last summer's traffic accident.

May 24, 1999 -- Tyson is released from a Maryland jail after serving 3 1/2 months for assaulting the two motorists.

Oct. 23, 1999 -- Tyson knocks down Orlin Norris with a punch after the bell ending the first round. Norris hurts knee in fall and cannot continue. Fight is ruled a no-contest. No disciplinary action is taken.

Aug. 23, 2000 -- Tyson is fined $187,500 by the British Boxing Board of Control for misconduct.

Jan. 18, 2002 -- Tyson's wife sues for divorce. Tyson countersues.

Jan. 22, 2002 -- Tyson throws a punch at a Lennox Lewis bodyguard who had pushed him, and Lewis throws a punch at Tyson, setting of a melee at a news conference to formally announce Tyson's scheduled fight against Lewis on April 6 in Las Vegas.

Jan. 29, 2002 -- Tyson denied a boxing license by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because of his melee with Lewis.

March 25, 2002 -- Memphis lands Tyson-Lewis fight, selling out the tickets for a record $23 million gate.
 
FlexBailey said:
Tyson would not destroy Ali let alone even hurt him..gee's! Ali would have done circles around him..wore him down and slowly chopped him down. Tyson doesn't have it upstairs to beat Ali..come on!

Why does everyone judge Tyson on what he has done in the last 4 years. Before Cus died there was no better heavyweight. Ever.

Watch his old fights, at 19 he was dominant, by 23 forget it.

Ali was great but when Tyson was in his prime he had it all.
 
Re: Who Cares?

pitbullstl said:
How long has it been since a heavyweight match went the distance? No more pay per views for me.......I'd rather watch the little guys on showtime.....they are much more athletic and entertaining....besides boxing is for fairies........combat hapkido now there's a sport.........MAN NO MORE FINA FOR ME!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Pay-per-view is expensive as hell for a fight like this, but I have an illegal descrambler:D -Damn, descrambler, roids, speeding, animal sex.....I think everything I do is illegal. (heh heh, and of course I was joking about the speeding):p
 
I don't really know enought to make a prediction, but somehow I want Tyson to win.

Why is it that I always root for him in fights? Maybe I just prefer complete psychopaths to the self-reiteous images his opponents are generally forced to have.
 
Tyson will knock Lennox the hell out in less than 6 rounds. Even if the fight does go longer (probably wont), Tyson can go the distance. And also, he's not scared of Lewis like Lewis is afraid of him. Lennox took a cheap shot at Tyson at that press conference after his own bodyguard messed up that planned stand off by getting in Tyson's face. He deserved to get bitten on the leg. Then to top it off, he calls Tyson "a cartoon". Needless to say, Mike will probably be fairly angry about that comment come fight time. It's on.
 
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