TWO very quick questions for tomorrow....

[JKurz1]

This cycle look on point? Want to make sure everything is in order BEFORE hand.....also, what do you reccomend for PCT...some say 500mg hcg the entire 12 weeks, stopping after last inject and starting clomid, others say just clomid and nolv.......what do you reccomend?

dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test (enth and sus) -500mg ew wks1-9
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-9
winny-50mg ed wks8-12

 

[UA_Iron]

I think it looks solid. HCG use you'll get a lot of opinions with. I'd use it PCT personally - but I have never used it so maybe I am not the best person to be giving advice on the subject.

What about an anti-e during your cycle?

 

[JKurz1]

what do you reccomend?

 

[RADAR]

I've been cycling years before HCG was ever heard of and made just fine without it, its a matter of opinion.


RADAR

 

[UA_Iron]

what do you reccomend?

arimidex is the most abundant. not that your doses are super high or anything you might be able to get away without any. But I'd run arimidex at 0.5mg eod and ramp up if you need to.

I'll caution again, I just started taking arimidex so I dont know its full effects on me yet, but femara killed my sex drive - that sucked.

 

[mcr]

dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test (enth and sus) -500mg ew wks1-9
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-9
winny-50mg ed wks8-12

Are you saying 500mg of enan AND 500mg of sus per week? Or are you saying 250mg of each of them per week?

Whichever, jabbing sus needs to be done more frequently than EW or 2x/week if you want the full benefit of all the esters in it.

 

[UA_Iron]

Are you saying 500mg of enan AND 500mg of sus per week? Or are you saying 250mg of each of them per week?

Whichever, jabbing sus needs to be done more frequently than EW or 2x/week if you want the full benefit of all the esters in it.

no, the majority (3/4) of the esters in sustanon are longer esters which twice a week is perfectly suited for. And the amount of test propionate is small compared to the others in sustanon.

 

[Slyder190]

I've never had success with bulkers after my cycles were over. I never used HCG. This summer I used after cutting however. Seemed to look better after words, but could've been just in my head. I always used Clomid or Clomid/Nolva. I'd use HCG during your cycle, most defiantely. I'll ket you know my final thoughts a few months doen the road after my bulker is over and done with. I hope all goes well, or it's all-natural bulking from now on.

 

[JKurz1]

no, the majority (3/4) of the esters in sustanon are longer esters which twice a week is perfectly suited for. And the amount of test propionate is small compared to the others in sustanon.

Monday and Thursday

 

[mcr]

no, the majority (3/4) of the esters in sustanon are longer esters which twice a week is perfectly suited for. And the amount of test propionate is small compared to the others in sustanon.

Bro, it still had 30mg of prop, which is wasted with 2x/week jabs IMO.

 

[Anthony Starks]

Especially since you are starting your cycle with Dbol anyway, I would just stick with the test enth and drop the sust. But I'm just nit-picking, its a good cycle you got there.

 

[kahbab]

I've been cycling years before HCG was ever heard of and made just fine without it, its a matter of opinion.


RADAR

this is exactly what i was thinking radar. hcg is still fairly new, now you have all those bb from back in the 70's like arnold, and franco. i know that they got by on lower doses compared to the insane amount of aas todays monsters use but those guys still did a considerable amount of juice without hcg. i agree it is a good product to have available like another weapon in the arsenal but i keep hearing people talking about how "you must have hcg" so what would everyone do if hcg was not avaiable? or let's just say you did not have a fridge.

 

[JKurz1]

OK, this is the final Plan: look good?

dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test (enth and sus) -500mg ew wks1-9
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-9
winny-50mg ed wks8-12

HCG 500mg/wk for 12 weeks
clomid after last winny inject at 300mg/day 1, 200mg/day 2, 100mg days 3-10, and 50mg for rest of 3 weeks..........do I need something for the bloat? Is the clomid and HCG dose accurate?

 

[Judo Tom]

eat to bulk and you will be good to go..