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richspc said:
T-bol effective for 23-25 days then any gains stop. Also watch you kidneys.

Guys, correct me if i'm wrong, but T-bol appears to be a mild oral steroid compared to others. Consequently, it is not supposed to damage kidneys if used alone at a moderate dosage (such as 60 mg/day).

So, could you please explain your point concerning kidneys damaging? I will start my first T-bol cycle next week at 60 mg/day and I want to run it the safest way as possible. I only want to cut some bf.

I thought adding some clen along with it in order to boost the results.

Would you suggest something in order to prevent any kidneys problem?

Thanks for help.
 
grimskunk said:
Guys, correct me if i'm wrong, but T-bol appears to be a mild oral steroid compared to others. Consequently, it is not supposed to damage kidneys if used alone at a moderate dosage (such as 60 mg/day).

So, could you please explain your point concerning kidneys damaging? I will start my first T-bol cycle next week at 60 mg/day and I want to run it the safest way as possible. I only want to cut some bf.

I thought adding some clen along with it in order to boost the results.

Would you suggest something in order to prevent any kidneys problem?

Thanks for help.
I don't know of any kidney DAMAGE from tbol. Myself and some other tbol users have noticed kidney pains (not dbol style back pumps). The metabolites from Tbol are mainly removed by the kidneys. I've seen this posted a few times, and they mention it...


[The pharmacokinetics of Oral-Turinabol in humans]

[Article in German]

Schumann W.

Institut fur Mikrobiologie und experimentelle Therapie (ZIMET), Jena.

Disposition and excretion of the anabolic steroid Oral-Turinabol (1;4-chloro-17 alpha-methyl-androsta-1,4-diene-17 beta-hydroxy-3-one) were investigated in male volunteers. Following single p.o. and i.v. administration of the tritium-labelled compound the plasma concentration courses of total radioactivity (1 and 1-metabolites) and of the unchanged parent drug as well as the urinary excretion were estimated. From these data model independent pharmacokinetic parameters based on statistical moments were calculated. 1 is almost completely absorbed after p.o. administration of 10 mg per volunteer. Peak concentrations of total radioactivity and of 1 in plasma were reached about 3 h p.a. Irregularities observed in the plasma level profile following both p.o. and i.v. administration of 1 are due to a marked enterohepatic circulation. Orally given 1 is subject to a first-pass effect, resulting in a diminished systematic availability. The AUC-ratio of the unchanged drug and the total radioactivity of 1 : 13 shows the predominance of metabolites in plasma. After i.v. administration the disposition of unchanged 1 was found biphasically with a terminal half-life of 16 h. 1 and its metabolites are preferentially excreted via the kidneys. The urinary total radioactivity represented about 60% of the dose following both administrations. Due to its affinity to SHBG 1 is able to compete for the protein binding of testosterone, resulting in an increased plasma level of non protein-bound testosterone.


In my experience, cranberry extract and lots of water = no problems.
 
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Fukkenshredded said:
BTW everyone --

What is this karma stuff? I see these green dots go up and down and see various numbers. Karmic power -- what is that exactly? Should I increase it? Explain this to me if you would.

Thankyamuch.

FS
This is something I still don't understand. It's supposed to be a way to tell someone you like their post. But you can't do this to the same person twice without doing it to others. So you have to do it people who's posts you don't necessarily like to do it to those you do. If you do it too little no one can do it to you, if you do it too much you have to stop for a day. People consider these a status symbol but you can buy this status at the status store. If this is making any sense to you you're way ahead of me. lol
 
turbogreek said:
daaaaaamn...welcome to EF Mr Roberts. For those of you who don't know him...he's one of the most knowledged bro's around in my book

:garza:


he may be new to EF but not to the game.

Thanks man...I remember you from when I used to hang on S.com...
 
hammercurls said:
thats another thing that urks me about the boards people say it stops working after 3 weeks, if you believe that shit then you get what you deserve..

how in the world are people subscribing to these theories?

Because "Dr. Hawking" , everyone responds differently to gear thats why. For some guys it stops at 3-4 weeks and for others it does not. So the only real answer is "this is what I got out of tbol" and then state your experience. People can only tell you what is suppoosed to happen and what happened with them, but experience is the only way to know for yourself how you will react. So you can't say that theroy is "shit" becuase thats what another persons ecperience is/was, anymore than I can say your theory that it lasts longer than 3 weeks is shit.
 
yea but they should also post up IMPORTANT things like, pshyc drugs, rec drugs, body type and age. there's some heavy drug user's here and often skews their results.

now what do you have to say about that?
 
hammercurls said:
yea but they should also post up IMPORTANT things like, pshyc drugs, rec drugs, body type and age. there's some heavy drug user's here and often skews their results.

now what do you have to say about that?

Yes. Unfortunately, there is no talking about recreational drugs on S.com, so my work there necessarily does not include information like that, concerning effects on cycles.

Imagine if I said "Cocaine can increase LH?" or "Cocaine can increase GH" (not that I'm saying it does....necessarily)?

Then people would say I reccomend using it, etc...

And really, thats not something I'm comfortable with...not because I have issues with this chemical over that one, but because I just don't want to give people 50% of the information and not the other 50%.

So thus far, my work on anabolics has not included (sadly) some of the mitigating and aggrivating factors you just mentioned.
 
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