bigtravis said:imo, yes you can run it longer. ot is just a strong derivative of d-bol. it doesn't give you the water retention, fat deposition or gyno that d-bol would. it is more suitable for pre-contest purposes and cutting. if you were to run it for maybe 12 weeks. i'd go 4 on, 4 off, then back on 4.
tzan said:I like this idea....My next cutter will go something like this:
500mg enanthate wks 1-10
50mg tbol wks 1-4 then again wks 9-12
Works perfect so I will be able to run my pct immediatly after I end the tbol the second time around.
tzan said:I like this idea....My next cutter will go something like this:
500mg enanthate wks 1-10
50mg tbol wks 1-4 then again wks 9-12
Works perfect so I will be able to run my pct immediatly after I end the tbol the second time around.

hammercurls said:that what i thought ret, if you introduce any drug to your system it should be ACTIVE till you cease. i personally think that the 22-28 days theory is ubber bullshit
just ran 60mg ed, 28 days, 22 the gains cuttoff, i was an animal i upped the cals no difference. mendo has run this cycle multiple times, fuck theories when you have experience. ret i know youve been a tbol afficianado but sorry i lost the gains like fonixer, fergie, and mendo did. wish i could have got mine to continue, wouldve been greatmendo said:For me its a matter of efficiency and not wasting my money. I agree that is should still be active at some level no matter how long you run it. But that doesn't matter to me when my size and strength gains suddenly slow way down in week 3 or 4. That part isn't theory to me...its my personal experience from running several Tbol cycles. I've heard a couple of guys say they still see gains after 3 or 4 weeks....great...but its never happened to me. I always stop taking it when I haven't seen any real gains for a week or so because I know I can save it for the next cycle and it will be more effective. I love Tbol, but its not the cheapest shit around and I want to get the most out of it...
Narcissus Rossisus said:Nonsense....TBOL run at 40-60mgs for 7 weeks will yeild great gains.
Narcissus Rossisus said:Nonsense....TBOL run at 40-60mgs for 7 weeks will yeild great gains.
wwebound4life said:strength increases SLOWED down on week 5 for me, "British Dragon at 60mg. ED"
Currently in PCT, nolva 40mg. week1, 20mg. week 2-3.
Only side effects I had was low back pain "kidneys", drank alot of water and took cranberry extract, and muscle cramps, mostly in my ass muscles and hams.
Felt like a charley horse, I hope my sciatic nerve isn't fucked up!
I gained 4 lbs. in lean mass which is cool cause I didn't have my calories raised to high, and my strength went up every workout for the first 4 1/2 weeks.
Pretty good pumps, even my damn shins would get pumped up just from walking!!! I didn't have a HUGE libido increase, I was even taking 50mg. BD provorin with the T-Ball. Can anybody explain this one??
All in all it was a fun first cycle, I plan on running it again in a couple of months since I bought enough for a few cycles.
peace........
Tbol isn't very androgenic at all. That's probably why you didn't notice the increase in libido.
You`re right T3 is most important thing in that stack. I stay FAR away from DNP though. Pure poisonTux said:Ret, you forgot the GH/T3/DNP for that cutter![]()
You know it was pretty hard core, I almost didnt eat at allboops said:hey ret,
sorry to hijack this thread but do you mind showing us a sample of your low carb diet (with foods)...obviously it worked well for you seeing you in your avatar....
peace
with tbol i had an increase in libido almost as intense as test propTux said:Just b/c a drug isn't strongly androgenic doesn't necessarily mean it won't stimulate the libido through other pathways. I know MANY people who have taken Tbol alone and had large, noticeable increases in sex drive, myself among them. Hell it was like my first cycle of test for the first week lol. And some people just don't really respond to proviron for sex drive. Also, if your sex drive wasn't lacking to begin with, then proviron's effects aren't as noticeable, try adding 250/week of test with that proviron, THEN I'll be you notice it's effects.
Bump that! I did 6 weeks at 60mgs and felt the strength and pump all the way thru. now after a month off to get liver values and cholesterol numbers back in line, doing german training dosage of 20 mgs for six weeks. at day 7 and strength is up! mood is up! its all goodhammercurls said:since everyone here is an expert then why where the german athletes on it for YEARS on end? this whole 22 days then gains stop sounds like horseshit arm chair assumptions, or other contributiong factors came into play
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