Ttokkyo EQ, missing some ml's ??

[dork]

Ok i finally got my bottle of Ttokkyo EQ and i can't wait to start my cycle on Monday. I have a 10 ml bottle of Boldenon 200, i checked out the pics and im pretty sure it's real. I popped the Ttokkyo top off myself and heard the little metal attachments break. The bottle is small brown glass and twords the top there is a little line indented in the glass. Im assuming this line is the 10 ml mark point. My bottle's liquid is not even close to that. By guessing id say im missing 2 ml (If that is in fact the 10 ml mark)

Anyone else that has a bottle of Ttokkyo EQ notice that line... Should my bottle be filled to that line?

 

[Bulldog_10]

I've heard alot of ttokkyo products come up short. Alot of people that have used it have told me that, and ** himself mentioned that to me in a recent conversation!

B-10

 

[MaxBiceps]

Yeah, I heard that too. I was gonna do a 10 week cycle at 400mgs along with
some other goodies, but I'm gonna bump it down to 350 mgs to compensate for the
shortage.

 

[rushx79]

im 6 weeks into my cycle and ive gone thru one bottle of ttokkyo's eq. it was a little over a half a ml short. my brovel t-200 was over 1ml short.

 

[curl45]

ya dork...

that happened to me too. I came up 600mgs short on the 7th wk of my cycle. Kinda pissed me off little cus that was a whole week of eq I got shorted. Its cool though. Always anticipate shit like that and order just a little more than you excpet to use.

 

[Riker29]

uh ...... people claim this from time to time about just about every brand.

Do you realize that when you load a syringe - that about 0.2 ml ends up being used just in the top part of the syringe and the needle itself?

Meaning ...

If you have a 10 ml bottle, and try to use it 5 times for 2 ml doses, chances are you WILL come up short.

When you "load" the syringe to that 2.0 ml mark for example, you just actually withdrew about 2.2 ml from the bottle to do it.

When you inject it - you inject the 2 ml. But there is some left in the syringe.

Don't believe me? Try this.

Take a new syringe that you can toss away - for an experiment.

Now, fill that syringe up to the about 2 ml mark.

ok, now pull the needle out of the water. Slowly posh the plunger down all the way - ok?

Now THIS is how you would have emptied that liquid into your muscle - BUT now watch this....

Now pull BACK on the plunger somewhat so that you get some air to get pulled through the nedele and into the syringe cavity.

Shake the syringe a bit, just a TINY bit .... now PUSH QUICKLY the plunger back down .......... did you see something come out? Liquid? Probably.

The reason this works is that after the first plunge, you are actually pulling air back into the syringe BEHIND the liquid that is left in there. Now, with that air in there to PUSH the liquid out, you can do a good job of cleaning the syringe cavity and needle out.

But you cant do that when you stick YOURSELF, because you cant risk pushing air into you.

So, sure, there MAY be some instances of some bottle slightly under-dosed. Granted.

But most "claims" about this are just do to ignorance, and guys not knowing how this works.

Chances are (unless the bottle is OVER filled) that you will NOT (for example) get 5 full 2 ml injections out of a 10 ml bottle of ANYTHING.

This is another reason why you should always plan your cycle head - and make sure you have at least some EXTRA gear on-hand.

Note: Smaller syringe sizes and needles tend to "hide" less liquid after the initial plunger, so for example, a 6 ML syringe with an 18G needle will hold much more than like a 3 ml syringe with a 25 g needle on it.

 

[belly24]

riker...great point!!!!!!

 

[harddtime]

thats a good point bro, i always wondered if i was losing anything in the needle, now i know. thanks bro

 

[tiny nuts]

THATS NOT COOL I GOT SOME ON THE WAY I HOPE THEY DONT GEEF ME

 

[Bulldog_10]

That is a good point. But he noticed the shortage before he began drawing it out! So the syringe never touched his EQ. So in fact this claim is not due to ignorance!

B-10

 

[dork]

Well ill be ordering another bottle then!
So i guess that line i spoke about is the 10ml mark
damn

 

[liftsiron]

I just checked a couple bottles of ttoykko eq and cyp none of them have a line any where on the glass. I think that you got a bottle with a little imperfection on it. Does anyone else have a marked line in the glass of their ttoykko products?

 

[FirstTimeUser0001]

The bottle does NOT have a line. Unless you are talking about the line RIGHT under the cap, and no way in hell is that a 10ML mark.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Riker is right... A cc isn't much and the amount left in the needle will definitely have you coming up short.

You guys should be swapping out the needles that you draw with anyway.

 

[juniorgearhead]

i just checked my ttokkyo eq bottle and i didn't see any line?

 

[dork]

maybe 'line' was the wrong word. It's right under the cap, and it's hard to see. Put the bottle under a bright light and feel for it. It's more like two 1/2 centermeter dashes that are raised in the glass. It's on the bottle neck of the EQ. I thought it might be the 10ml mark, but hopefully you guys are right and it isn't. Im sure my bottle is real, had the hologram on the box, and matched all pics i've seen

 

[Riker29]

No, that is NOT a "fill" mark.

 

[Jeff_rys]

This is how it should be done

You could by one 10 cc syringe and draw the 10 cc up. You will know right away, if it is underdosed.
As for fluid staying in the needle, this can be avoided.
When the syringe is filled and you push the gear up, to loose the air, STOP when it gets into the needle. Stick it there where you want it, but hold it at least in a 45° angle. Now when you pull back, air or vacuum will come in the syringe together with the air in the needle. This will mount to the end of the syringe. When you are almost done shooting, you will see the air bubble coming into the syringe, but you will not be able to shoot it in, because the plunger reached the end. This way not one drop is spilled.

 

[JUICEMONKEY]

My first bottle came up 1 and a 1/2 ml. short. Good thing I have backup.

 

[anabolic24/7]

I've had 8 bottles of the eq... none were short by any noticable amount.

 

[The All Powerfull MC]

im just about done with my first bottle of nandralona-300, and it looks like im only gonna get about 9-9.5 out of it.
This fuckin sucks, everyone was talkin that these were filled right and sometimes overfilled, the next thing is we will start hearing rumours it is underdosed like fuckin brovel.
I might have to agree with 2thick, cause mexican gear is bummin me out.

 

[DieselJMB]

My ttokkyo EQ was 1 cc underfilled

 

[Slopain]

did you last two read Rikers point??

 

[Riker29]

Slo - I don't think they did.

In fact, I think a LOT of guys do that - they see the question, in fact many don't even read the whole question , let alone the responses that have been sent already - and they just fire off a reply.