Truth about Test ????? HELP?????

[PimpnAintEasy]

Pimpin..not bad...I never used proviron ..im assuming your a fan of it huh? give me some input b.c ive heard a few times and just never found any interest.

Here's a decent thread on Proviron: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/10-2000/032461.html

I love the Test/EQ or Tren/Dbol combination and using proviron helps me to still enjoy the strength & LBM gains, with much less difficulty with H20 retention & high BP (which I am prone to with Test/Dbol). 25mg/ day throughout or 50mg/day the last 3 weeks (minimum)---sometimes I continue use with the clomid also---really helps me with post cycle gains retention and getting my endo. test back in order. Your estrogen-induced sides (fat, skin problems, boat, ect) will be noticably lower using proviron or arimidex. There seems to be alot of misinformation floating around about Proviron, but personally, after going through cycles with and without, I will continue to use it.

 

[imprint516]

Does it help you in perticular keep gains...someone told me it helps them...me Tribulus.dhea..clomids and im good to go...

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

Does it help you in perticular keep gains...someone told me it helps them...me Tribulus.dhea..clomids and im good to go...

Here's an excerpt from "The Gainskeeper Formula" article:

"Proviron is a synthetic androgen that also acts as an anti-aromatase. When the intake of steroids ceases, the bodies own androgen levels are very low, yet the estrogen levels are still very high. This shifts the androgen to estrogen ratio in favor of the estrogens spelling bad news for the user. Proviron keeps the ratio in favor of the androgens without effecting the natural production of testosterone, thereby adding to spermatogenisis. This double action drug begins to reduce the amount of estrogen in the body by preventing the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen so that possible gyno, water retention and female pattern fat distribution may be avoided. It will also give the body a much harder look."

Here's the entire article: http://www.roid.com/gains.htm

 

[Hungry1]

Re: lol

Well said harmonic.. "at your level of stupidity"..LOL...
Test is not test and you do not decide by price... You decide by ester... For me it's Prop.. Ripped you just made yourself look like a fool...

LOL! Talk about putting your foot in your mouth. Boy don't you look like a jackass.

 

[2thin]

go pimpin

 

[BTLFED]

In the end it is all some form of gear, and as long as you are satisfied with the $$$$ you paid for your gains than that is what really matters.

 

[Enzo250]

Hungry1:

I look like the jackass! WHY because I don't buy test by price... I was refering to the idiot that buys test by price..... At first it looked like harmonic knew what he was talking about we realized he didn't. I agree that if you strip the ester it's the same. But you can't say that Sust will give the same results as Prop Or that cyp/enanthate will give you the same results as Suspension.

 

[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

Well, regular T-200 has only one esther of testostrone, it is called enanthate. However, Sustanon has 4 different esthers-- Propionate,phenylpropionate,isocaproate, and deconate. The advantage of sustanon is that it esthers will each benefit from different receptors in you body, but T-200 will to only one type of receptor.. Side on T-200 are a little bit worse unless you taper it off at the end of your cycle. Sustonon is self tapering, so you don't really have to worry about a "test crash". Although Clomid is still recommended. I personally have got better gains of T-200 so it is my favorite, and not to mention alot cheaper..

Hope that helps.

Harmonic. When you post please see to it that your post contains some semblance to CORRECT INFORMATION.
Where in the hell do you come up with "different esters will benefit from different receptors in your body..."??? A receptor is a RECEPTOR let alone having diffenent ones for different testosterone esters.
Posting this crap will make other people who want to learn have to wade thru puddles of shit.

 

[Bootyshaker]

Re: Why T200 is better then sus

Ill start off by saying out of my "stupidity" I sometimes use almost 3000mg of test per week (i know, i know).

Enanthate is more effective Mg per Mg then sus. Why? Because the short acting esters in sus allow your body to use the test quicker and the overall amount in your bloodstream is less. This is especially true for you guys that only shoot one or two amps per week.

If my science is wrong, I have to say: Enanthate is still more effective then sus. Why? Because Ive used both many, many, many times and enanthate always gives me better results.

Has anyone used sus with better results then enanthate? Please respond or email me. Im curious.

My friend, this is in no way a flame at all. This is an article from t-mag a week ago that may disagree with you.


Short Esters Are Better Esters

Perhaps the most important thing I learned in reviewing this study is that short-chain esters (steroids of shorter half life) yield a much higher plasma concentration of steroid than steroids of longer side chain esters. In this study, a single 100 mg/ml x 1 ml intragluteal injection of nandrolone phenylpropionate caused a peak plasma concentration of almost double that of the 100 mg/ml x 1 ml intragluteal injection of nandrolone decanoate. This level remained increased for almost seven days, too. By fourteen days, even though the nandrolone decanoate ester demonstrated a much higher plasma level than the nandrolone phenylpropionate level, the net amount of both was so low as to be ineffective.

This tells me that the effects I can see from using 500 mg of Testosterone enanthate per week probably won’t be the same as using 500 mg of Testosterone propionate or even Testosterone suspension per week. I’m going to see better results with the propionate and even better results with the suspension. Sure, I may need to inject the propionate and suspension more often, but in the long run it’ll pay off for me. (Not that I’d use steroids, of course. No sir, not me. They’re illegal!)

 

[Enzo250]

Bootyshaker: EXACTLY... This is what i was trying to say. I don't like sust and would use Prop over any other test.. PERIOD... I get better results with it.. So to me there not the same... Who cares if there the same when you strip the ester. Your not gonna do that when you inject it...