Tren E/ace together?

[SwollenMember_18]

Was having a chat with one of my boys today about the wonders of this compound, and he told me that in his last prep he stacked the 2 esters together at once and apparently it was just insane and he said he's never changed so fast and looked so good as 4 weeks of this made him look and feel...

Anybody else done this before and notice anything different then either ace or enth alone??

Be interested as to why itnwouldnsignal a difference or if it would at all and it was more placebo than anything

P.S. He was already 8 weeks into tren E when he added the ace so it wasn't just the ace kicking before the enth that made him feel the instant gratificAtion!

 

[zmyj88]

Hate the --e. The hex is nice with the ace tho

 

[trt newbie]

Interesting I have some ace on its way almost want to give it a go but I'll probably wait to use it till the summer

 

[Saiyan7]

I will be starting a tri tren mix in April. Ace, e, and hex. While running no ester for preworkout.

 

[trt newbie]

I will be starting a tri tren mix in April. Ace, e, and hex. While running no ester for preworkout.

Sounds intense

 

[ALIN]

I will be starting a tri tren mix in April. Ace, e, and hex. While running no ester for preworkout.

The no ester before workout should be interesting, That's something Ive never tried. Keep us posted on how it works for you.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Woooo all my boys jumping on in!

Killer stuff gents, ok wellllll I figure I may as well Guinea pig this shit out and just see for myself, I'll grab some ace today and start bangin it back.

My doses will be 800 tren E and 400 ace, this should be a fun little ride

 

[trt newbie]

Woooo all my boys jumping on in!

Killer stuff gents, ok wellllll I figure I may as well Guinea pig this shit out and just see for myself, I'll grab some ace today and start bangin it back.

My doses will be 800 tren E and 400 ace, this should be a fun little ride

Damn bro your about to be a fucking beast at the gym haha

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Damn bro your about to be a fucking beast at the gym haha

Yeah, it's gunna be a wild next 6-8 weeks hahaha. I will update how I'm feeling week by week for you boys. I'm gaining in a deficit right now and I'm gunna bump my cals up slowly here starting tomorrow so shit should get pretty real lol! Sittin at 209 with clothes and an omlette in me this morning another 10-12 pounds before summer would be soooo goddamn nice... See if I can't walk around sub 10 at 225ish for a lil bit

 

[zmyj88]

Yasssss, now we're talking!

...just remember, its the tren. When you're pulling that dude thru his car window because you don't like his hat. Pause. Its the tren. Put the skinny dude down, he doesn't even know what he did wrong and he's scared he's very scared

...from personal experience lmao

 

[trt newbie]

yasssss, now we're talking!

...just remember, its the tren. When you're pulling that dude thru his car window because you don't like his hat. Pause. Its the tren. Put the skinny dude down, he doesn't even know what he did wrong and he's scared he's very scared

...from personal experience lmao

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Yasssss, now we're talking!

...just remember, its the tren. When you're pulling that dude thru his car window because you don't like his hat. Pause. Its the tren. Put the skinny dude down, he doesn't even know what he did wrong and he's scared he's very scared

...from personal experience lmao

Hahaha! It's funny you mention this because I always thought tren rage was a myth till this time at 800mg I am one snappy bastard if I'm not lifting... Almost slapped out my roomy for forgetting to take out the trash the other day... He's 155 pounds soaking wet though so i realized I may have killed him had i flicked him with my pinky finger... And this guy in the grocery store literally like barely knocked my shopping cart passing me in the isle and I gave him the tren eyes of death and he was just shittin himself apologizing hahaha... I'm usually a extremely laid back individual as well so these 2 experiences as of late made me re-evaluate that myth as total reality! Hahaha

1200mg..... I best spend literally 3/4 of my time in the gym hahaha

 

[trt newbie]

Hahaha! It's funny you mention this because I always thought tren rage was a myth till this time at 800mg I am one snappy bastard if I'm not lifting... Almost slapped out my roomy for forgetting to take out the trash the other day... He's 155 pounds soaking wet though so i realized I may have killed him had i flicked him with my pinky finger... And this guy in the grocery store literally like barely knocked my shopping cart passing me in the isle and I gave him the tren eyes of death and he was just shittin himself apologizing hahaha... I'm usually a extremely laid back individual as well so these 2 experiences as of late made me re-evaluate that myth as total reality! Hahaha

1200mg..... I best spend literally 3/4 of my time in the gym hahaha

Haha my tren rages come in waves I felt it more in the beginning at 400 I'm not to bad right now but I still get a little frustrated and start sweating here and there. We'll see how i am on ace this summer at 600

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Alright boys!! First jabber of the ace will be today!! You bro's fancy i drop my test down to like 5 or 600 from 800? Or just leave er be?

 

[trt newbie]

It's up to you man I went from 200 to 400 and still feel pretty lethargic it might get rid of a tiny bit of bloat and save you a little money lol that's about it

 

[RADAR]

I've only had roid rage once, i had broken my toe but i had just bought My Z06 Corvette a few days ago so i parked in the open parking lot where no cars were, went to buy groceries came out and this dude had parked right next to my car and was walking around looking at it, man i just lost it i felt the blood hitting my face like i was blushing , i hobbled out there i couldn't go too fast cause of my toe, and i saw him get into his car, remember he was parked close so close that he could only open the door juse enough that he could barely get in, it was an accident waiting to happen if he even lost his balance just a bit the door would have nicked my car, he was leaving as i got there i gave him the evil eye and wanted to chase him down but my wife talked me out of it, she also said my face was so red its a wonder i didn't give myself a heart attack.After that i was more aware and started keeping myself in check.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I've only had roid rage once, i had broken my toe but i had just bought My Z06 Corvette a few days ago so i parked in the open parking lot where no cars were, went to buy groceries came out and this dude had parked right next to my car and was walking around looking at it, man i just lost it i felt the blood hitting my face like i was blushing , i hobbled out there i couldn't go too fast cause of my toe, and i saw him get into his car, remember he was parked close so close that he could only open the door juse enough that he could barely get in, it was an accident waiting to happen if he even lost his balance just a bit the door would have nicked my car, he was leaving as i got there i gave him the evil eye and wanted to chase him down but my wife talked me out of it, she also said my face was so red its a wonder i didn't give myself a heart attack.After that i was more aware and started keeping myself in check.

Any personal insight on if I should lower my test dose radar?

 

[RADAR]

Alright boys!! First jabber of the ace will be today!! You bro's fancy i drop my test down to like 5 or 600 from 800? Or just leave er be?

I never had any issues running that dosage thats about my limit anything up to a gram and my body doesn't seem to respond. Now if you're going to run Tren with it you can drop back to 500-600mg on the test, I grow like a weed on 300mg of tren ace.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Felt the ace kick today boys!! Had the meanest skin splitting pumps training arms I felt like I was literally growing out of my skin in the gym, I could literally not get my hoodie off because it was so tight on my muscles hshaha!!! Ohhhh boy oh boy this is gunna be a good freakkkin ride!! Cals are slowly increasing, carbs will be cycled, clocking in at 207 today and leaner than I've ever been! Lookin for a clean 12 - 15 before summer hopefully praise be thy trenbolone

 

[Saiyan7]

Sounds fun bro. I can't wait to taste tren. Just over one month!

 

[Aplopez8]

With those high doses you all are running the tren do you feel like as long as u control ur estrogen you don't run into prolactin issues ?

 

[SwollenMember_18]

With those high doses you all are running the tren do you feel like as long as u control ur estrogen you don't run into prolactin issues ?

Yeah bro, I've increased slowly over the last year and a bit of tren blasts, bit more each time and played around with my test dose too, but yes I find as long as my estro is in my prolactin/progesterone stays in as well.

Liver values have minimally jumped out of range at times but as I've said before I attribute that to the orals not the tren.

Only sides for me on high dose tren, is insomnia (bad) and lethargy and my acne gets a bit worse on my back

 

[Aplopez8]

Yeah bro, I've increased slowly over the last year and a bit of tren blasts, bit more each time and played around with my test dose too, but yes I find as long as my estro is in my prolactin/progesterone stays in as well.

Liver values have minimally jumped out of range at times but as I've said before I attribute that to the orals not the tren.

Only sides for me on high dose tren, is insomnia (bad) and lethargy and my acne gets a bit worse on my back

Thanks for the reply brotha..

 

[bigorse]

Only roid rage i ever had was in the gym on 80mg of test suspension. I was training shoulders and couldn't kick the 110lbs dumbbells up to shoulder press and i just threw the dumbbells and shouted a string of profanities. Lucky i was training at an off peak time

 

[SwollenMember_18]

***update***

So one week into adding the ace I'm up another pound and a bit, still looking leaner, crushing 2 a day gym blast like it ain't nobodies business!!

Insane pumps, strength still pretty steady... My pulls may have gotten a bit better, but they've always been the quickest to improve.

Got a comment today, while wearing my hoodie I might add, sayin I look like I'm filling out my clothes more than I was last week haha, buddy even said "wholy shy bro your chest is poppin today!" Which is a big deal for me due to my chest being my most lagging muscle group!

So sittin at 208.5, probably sub 10% now, still can't sleep for shit but it's no worse yet either, no other increased sides other than in just a road rageaholic at times hahaha!

All in all reaaaaaal stoked for the next 6-8 weeks of dis hereeeee blast of God!

 

[bigorse]

Good stuff should be able to hit like 215 and hold bodyfat in the next 6-8 weeks on this kind of cycle

 

[Saiyan7]

Great job bro. Keep it up. One month for me to start

 

[trt newbie]

I had my first case of crazy roid rage yesterday if I did t have my 4 month old daughter and girlfriend in the car I would have got out of the car I was yelling at the guy threw my passenger window passed my girlfriend lol my girl was like babe calm down lol

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I had my first case of crazy roid rage yesterday if I did t have my 4 month old daughter and girlfriend in the car I would have got out of the car I was yelling at the guy threw my passenger window passed my girlfriend lol my girl was like babe calm down lol

LOLLL, ain't it just the best!?
Let me guess... He made a late signal, or just kinda... Wasn't goin quite up to speed!?

Hahaha my snaps are just dumb, I actually honked hardddd and loud today at a guy who wasn't even doing anything wrong.... I was just tren tweaking and thought he didn't see the green light, but no, he was turning and waiting for the car going through to pass... Felt like an idiot hahaha BLAME IT ON THE TREN!!!

 

[trt newbie]

Hahaha no I had my signal on forever trying to get over and finally tried and he sped up to not let me over so I get over and were stopped at a red so I pull up next to him and flip out on him hahaha

 

[trt newbie]

Hahaha no I had my signal on forever trying to get over and finally tried and he sped up to not let me over so I get over and were stopped at a red so I pull up next to him and flip out on him hahaha

 

[trt newbie]

But ya I do love it

 

[trt newbie]

I think everything has finally built up in my system I felt like beast today. Either that or it's because I finally got some good sleep lol. Only thing that sucks is I only have one more week left of dbol. At least I'll be able to see the tren and mast do there magic without the dbol. Can't wait to add the winny in a month.. Hopefully that will put the icing on the cake, just hope my joints don't hurt as bad as they did last time.. If they do I'll ditch the winny and get some var plus I've never ran var before and have heard some good things about it.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I think everything has finally built up in my system I felt like beast today. Either that or it's because I finally got some good sleep lol. Only thing that sucks is I only have one more week left of dbol. At least I'll be able to see the tren and mast do there magic without the dbol. Can't wait to add the winny in a month.. Hopefully that will put the icing on the cake, just hope my joints don't hurt as bad as they did last time.. If they do I'll ditch the winny and get some var plus I've never ran var before and have heard some good things about it.

Yeah buddy make use of this last week and pack down as much goddamn food as you can fit down the ol pie hole!! Hshaha!

With the winny, I've found since I started really controlling my reps and not trying to out lift my self every session, the pain has been slim to none! I think a lot of people start going balls out cuz that shut makes you so strong as all hell and it adds unnecessary hurt to the joints! Also fish oils on fish oils on fish oils!!!

Var is dope too though, reacts the same as winny with me though.... Gains while dieting, vascular as fuck, good steady strength increases... I don't get the "fat burning" effect from it people claim though... Still gotta really bust my ass to get shreds no matter what I run!

I can't fucjin wait for this next week when my ace and increased tren E dose both peak simultaneously!!! Gunna be a freak!! Hahaha look out world, the trenathon is jus bout to get REAL

 

[trt newbie]

Bro I cut out some carbs and salt and I'm already down 5 lbs I still have the rest of this week the no more dbol for me

 

[trt newbie]

Then

 

[trt newbie]

I think I'm going to try drol next.. You said you kept more off drol right?

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I think I'm going to try drol next.. You said you kept more off drol right?

Ugh, hate the water losses, tough mentally for sure

And yeah bro the drol was intense man, Hans down my favourite Oral yet.... I started it already a bit puffy too, 35 pounds in 30 days, lost 5-7 just kept eating like a horse, kept all my strength too, maybe a rep or 2 here and there but nothing noticeable, insane pumps too... And good ones no agonizing back pumps like dbol give me, jus pure full
Muscle bellies!!

100mg Ed was my sweet spot! I wanna start it next time from
A reaaaalllly lean base, I think starting it around 8-10% would be ideal... You'd seriously look like your building muscle as the day goes on hahah, before I'd go to bed is like hit a quick pose, and not even joking a couple
Flexes in the mirror and you just blow up keep that BP in check tho the drol tren test Combo with the inane weight gain had me gettin to pretty high levels... As soon as I dropped the drol I evened back out within the week after...

But yeah for me drol>dbol all day, on the other hand my buddy hattttes drol and loves dbol so much haha. So you'll have to experiment and see which one you like better

 

[trt newbie]

Ya I'm def going with drol next.

 

[trt newbie]

I think I'm adding ace this last 6 weeks at 300 so I'll be at 900

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I think I'm adding ace this last 6 weeks at 300 so I'll be at 900

Hahaha yeahhhh budday!! Link up wit the tren train of God!! Haha! I hit 214 morning weight today, felt a lil bit softer than I would've liked but I doused all the foods I ate in mad sauces and also went to town on some deli ham which was packed with salt so we'll see tomorrow... But that's 205-214 in the last 5 weeks and still just as lean... Tried to put on an old adidas fitted shirt that I wore to work when I was sittin at like 180... Haven't worn it since... Couldn't even barely get it on hahaha it was just like another layer of skin it was so fucking tight the bottom of the shirt wouldn't even barely cover my lower abs cuz my upper body wouldn't let it pull down hahaha I was hyped!! Sometimes hard to see the changes when you look at yourself daily, real nice to get a motivator like that!!!

My cardio is SHOT now though wholy shit, I barellllllly made it through 25 min on the stepper today I was drenched in sweat and just felt like death was coming within the next minute if I didn't stop LOL #savagefactor

 

[trt newbie]

Hahaha yeahhhh budday!! Link up wit the tren train of God!! Haha! I hit 214 morning weight today, felt a lil bit softer than I would've liked but I doused all the foods I ate in mad sauces and also went to town on some deli ham which was packed with salt so we'll see tomorrow... But that's 205-214 in the last 5 weeks and still just as lean... Tried to put on an old adidas fitted shirt that I wore to work when I was sittin at like 180... Haven't worn it since... Couldn't even barely get it on hahaha it was just like another layer of skin it was so fucking tight the bottom of the shirt wouldn't even barely cover my lower abs cuz my upper body wouldn't let it pull down hahaha I was hyped!! Sometimes hard to see the changes when you look at yourself daily, real nice to get a motivator like that!!!

My cardio is SHOT now though wholy shit, I barellllllly made it through 25 min on the stepper today I was drenched in sweat and just felt like death was coming within the next minute if I didn't stop LOL #savagefactor

Ya I can't wait I'm going to start on Thursday or maybe today

 

[Saiyan7]

Lol these are solid updates. I'll be starting Monday. Sust and EQ and drol. Actually getting my hands on some inj drol. So giving that a go for the first 10 days and then switching to caps to finish out the 3-4 weeks. Then two weeks in I'll be hitting the tri tren blend.

 

[bigorse]

Lol these are solid updates. I'll be starting Monday. Sust and EQ and drol. Actually getting my hands on some inj drol. So giving that a go for the first 10 days and then switching to caps to finish out the 3-4 weeks. Then two weeks in I'll be hitting the tri tren blend.

I started my eq today and will be adding drol in about 5 days

 

[trt newbie]

Oh damn! Lol I'm about to do eq for my first time next winter with high test and some deca I will also be using droll to kickstart that cycle. I'm hoping to keep 15 lbs from that cycle but we'll see. At least blow the fuck up and look 15 lbs heavier lol.

 

[bigorse]

Oh damn! Lol I'm about to do eq for my first time next winter with high test and some deca I will also be using droll to kickstart that cycle. I'm hoping to keep 15 lbs from that cycle but we'll see. At least blow the fuck up and look 15 lbs heavier lol.

Im shooting for 30! i was about 25lbs heavier than i am now before i broke my hand though. Realistically id like to be 230 at 12% i finished up last time at 227 at 15%

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Hahaha I love waking up to this thread! Just the big boy crew doin it right!! We alllll gon make it boys!!

 

[trt newbie]

.. I started my tren a today can't wait till it kicks 900mg here I come

 

[trt newbie]

Man I had a strait placebo experience at the gym today lol. Working out like I had 900mg already in me haha. Ether that or it's because I've been getting better sleep lol.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Man I had a strait placebo experience at the gym today lol. Working out like I had 900mg already in me haha. Ether that or it's because I've been getting better sleep lol.

Bruh I had the same thing happen to me!! My second jab I trained arms and was like the most explosive pump and arm smash I ever had in my life hahaha such a dope feeling!!

What's your diet looking like now bro?
You in a deficit? Recomping? Still eating like a boss? Hahaha

 

[trt newbie]

Haha I actually ate like shot these last couple days but I'm back on it now.. I don't really count cals or anything but every morning I wake up and have 5 eggs 4 with yoke and a little cheese for flavor and a bowl of non flavored oatmeal with a little honey and peanut butter for flavor then I meal prep one has chicken veggies and a piece of a yam and the other has 2 cups of ground turkey with a little taco seasoning and a half cup of brown rice then of corse my after workout protein shake and either a protein bar or another protein shake mid day some times I'll snack on unsalted mixed nuts and then for dinner I usually try and keep it to meat and veggies. Pretty simple, when I only eat that and don't cheat I get pretty lean. I want to start being stricter and do the macro count but that shit takes to much time

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Haha I actually ate like shot these last couple days but I'm back on it now.. I don't really count cals or anything but every morning I wake up and have 5 eggs 4 with yoke and a little cheese for flavor and a bowl of non flavored oatmeal with a little honey and peanut butter for flavor then I meal prep one has chicken veggies and a piece of a yam and the other has 2 cups of ground turkey with a little taco seasoning and a half cup of brown rice then of corse my after workout protein shake and either a protein bar or another protein shake mid day some times I'll snack on unsalted mixed nuts and then for dinner I usually try and keep it to meat and veggies. Pretty simple, when I only eat that and don't cheat I get pretty lean. I want to start being stricter and do the macro count but that shit takes to much time

Yeah no doubt, once you find out what works you can pretty much just wing it. I'm a heavy macro counter ahahah once I started it became an addiction now I like wont eat anything I can't weigh and count (other than veggies) even when I bender on dirty food it all gets logged so I can try and even out my overall weekly count... Loving the higher fat lower carbs approach though gettin leaner and growing is aweeeesome!

Today in the gym the hoodie came off
For the first time in a couple weeks and I was turnin some heads to
Say the least hahaha... One of the trainers there looked at me and like stumbled and was jus like "woah.... Dude... What happened... Your a beast!!!" Hahaha mad motivation!!

 

[trt newbie]

Yeah no doubt, once you find out what works you can pretty much just wing it. I'm a heavy macro counter ahahah once I started it became an addiction now I like wont eat anything I can't weigh and count (other than veggies) even when I bender on dirty food it all gets logged so I can try and even out my overall weekly count... Loving the higher fat lower carbs approach though gettin leaner and growing is aweeeesome!

Today in the gym the hoodie came off
For the first time in a couple weeks and I was turnin some heads to
Say the least hahaha... One of the trainers there looked at me and like stumbled and was jus like "woah.... Dude... What happened... Your a beast!!!" Hahaha mad motivation!!

Nice man. Ya I tried it for like a week and it was just taking so much freakn time. But now that I'm meal prepping I should try and give it another shot. Do you use a food scale?

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Nice man. Ya I tried it for like a week and it was just taking so much freakn time. But now that I'm meal prepping I should try and give it another shot. Do you use a food scale?

Yep I use a food scale for basically everything, measuring cup for egg whites n such, and I track everything on my fitness pal on my phone... Once you have like 10 meals that you pretty much eat every day switchin em up a bit it gets really quick and easy to just tap em in... I also just find it makes me stay on track cuz I know when I'm out of cals I'm out of cals or vice versa for bulking if I'm short I have to add some extra... Just peace of mind more than anything for me

 

[trt newbie]

Yep I use a food scale for basically everything, measuring cup for egg whites n such, and I track everything on my fitness pal on my phone... Once you have like 10 meals that you pretty much eat every day switchin em up a bit it gets really quick and easy to just tap em in... I also just find it makes me stay on track cuz I know when I'm out of cals I'm out of cals or vice versa for bulking if I'm short I have to add some extra... Just peace of mind more than anything for me

True. Fitness pal huh? I'm going to check that out.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

True. Fitness pal huh? I'm going to check that out.

Yeah man it's worth trying out and seeing if you can get in the habit.

It's shocking how much some foods caloric value is that you would never even think of, like I remember the first time I added a large bananna into my diary, and it was like "140 calories, 20 grams sugar" I was like whollllllly faaaaaaaak hahaha this little yellow twat has that much shit in it WTF!?!

 

[trt newbie]

Lol ya when I did it I was thinking I'll probably be pretty close and I wasn't at all lol if I was over on the protein whatever but some times I would be at my fat intake in the evening like wtf or at the end of my day I'm like I need 200more cals and 50 more carbs for the day but can't have anything els lol

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Bruh, the trensomnia is REAL tonight hahaha 3:15am can't even fathom sleeping still... Fml

 

[trt newbie]

Haha that sucks foggy I'm about to start work I got like 4 hours of sleep last night like always.. My insomnia hasn't been to bad lately night sweats either either my body's a ducking strait trash can or my teens super under dosed I'm about to try a new source for my next cycle I heard some good things about them and there a little cheaper then the lab I'm on now.. I use to be a druggy tho so I have a high tolerance for shit. We'll find out when I run this other labs shit that people swear by. I want to run there ace at 500 to start and see how I feel and if I'm really just a trash can I'll up it to 750 haha fuck it

 

[trt newbie]

I can't wait for this ace to kick in. I mean I'm getting good results looking lean as fuck more vascular and crazy pumps at the gym but I feel like the dose I'm on I should be having way more sides. I mean I guess it's a good thing that I'm not having crazy sides but I want to try a reputable source and run there ace and see if it's any different.

 

[trt newbie]

And not foggy lol *doggy* I swear either I have fat fingers or my spell check is on crack.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

I can't wait for this ace to kick in. I mean I'm getting good results looking lean as fuck more vascular and crazy pumps at the gym but I feel like the dose I'm on I should be having way more sides. I mean I guess it's a good thing that I'm not having crazy sides but I want to try a reputable source and run there ace and see if it's any different.

Woahhhhh dude! I was a huge druggy/alchoholic too!! And I totally think that plays a part in my tolerance for mass doses of gear! Never heard anyone else mention it though that's weird eh!?

I haven't touched a drug or drink for Almost 3 years now since I went to treatment I been clean, but I definately attribute my gear doses having to be higher because of something from my junkie days! Not to mention the mindset of "more is always better"

And it's like finding the best drug dealer hahaha gotta shop around a bit till you find the best and most consistent product

 

[trt newbie]

Haha I know right I use to be a strait trash can bro with everything I use to be on.. And all at the same time too haha. But ya idk I heard that the lab I'm on right now is good but I guess I'll try out another one and see for myself.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

My weight has been fluctuating like crazy this week... In between 210 and 216... Diet hasn't changed much... Just today I started to reintroduce about 50-75 grams more carbs post workout.

Anyone else experience major weight fluctuations on high dose tren? Kind of confused as to what may be causing this... Maybe raised progesterone/prolactin causing some water weight changes?

I did cut my sodium down a bunch so maybe it's just my body adjusting to the lower salt intake... Weird though

 

[trt newbie]

My weight always fluctuates around that much one day I'll be at 210 the next day I'll be at 214 but my diets not on point like yours

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Ayyyyo! Soooo my source got an extra few bottles of var shipped in on his last order that he is offering me for cost (60$ for 100/10mg caps)

Buuuuut I literally just dropped winny a couple days ago and kinda was wanting to give my liver a bit of a break from the orals, but now I'm super tempted as I already have a half bottle from last summer laying in my stash too... How detrimental you think it would be for me to jump on another oral so quick?

I can't get bloods for another month and a bit as my GP basically has to bulkshit why I need them and can only do it once every 3 months for me... Last bloods liver values were in range but on the high end... I feel fine, my skin is good, no dark urine...

What's you boys opinion? 5 or 6 weeks at 50mg/day is what I would run. Kinda let the diet go a tiny bit these last couple weeks.. Nothing to bad just ate more so didn't get quite as dry from the winny as I would've liked... Thinking the var would take my physique to the next level though, just a wee bit concerned about internal
Damage

 

[trt newbie]

I heard that 80mg of car and under won't put any stress on the liver and the test was done on people that already had liver issues.. That was one study I read I'm sure there's 100 other contradicting study's out there lol but idk I think you will most likely be ok just take a little more liv52 lol

 

[trt newbie]

And shoot a bottle this way! Haha

 

[trt newbie]

I was actually thinking of mixing winny and car at the end of this cycle like 50 winny 40 var

 

[trt newbie]

And sorry for all the cars every time I try and put var it autocorrects it to car

 

[bigorse]

I dont think its the best idea but it wont kill you, competitors stack orals for fairly lonv periodd of time, you should be fine

 

[trt newbie]

I kind of want to do a drol winny cycle

 

[RADAR]

LOLLL, ain't it just the best!?
Let me guess... He made a late signal, or just kinda... Wasn't goin quite up to speed!?

Don'y Cha just love those who drive with their turn signal on, just like they are advertising to everyone, hey! i just made an important left turn 6 miles back!

 

[trt newbie]

I'm baaaaack! Woot woot! I fucked my phone up and was phonless for almost a week I was going crazy!!! Tren e and ace kicks ass! Haha can't wait to do my mid summer Tren ace 600 ew and test blend 600 ew I'm also thinking about running var with it for the whole 12 weeks at a low dose like 50mg a day I can get 100 25 mg var for 120$ so I'll just grab a few of those but man does shit add up quick I need to start brewing already.

 

[trt newbie]

What's up swoll how's your cycle? You still going strong? You add that var yet?

 

[trt newbie]

Hope everyone's good and safe.. I went to go do chest and tri's today and thought I was about to have a stroke I was sweating a little more then normal I felt super faint and lightheaded I ended up calling it early.. I was going to hit it again latter but I thought I'd just rest and hit it hard tomorrow..

 

[SwollenMember_18]

What's up swoll how's your cycle? You still going strong? You add that var yet?

Yeeeeee whattttup!! An it's goin good man! Fuckin STUCK at 212-215 Lolol I am seriously eating away 350$ a week of food... No joke... The tren is just like disposing of every calorie hshaha still growin n gettin leaner I feel so that's good. I think Ima pass on the var, I have this urge to drop my tren dose down a bit and add in deca and drol it's either that or I think I'll just drag this out another month or so then have a little cruise break... Would be the wise decision.... But I really don't want to hahaha! Just wanna Fakin be a savage 240 pound beast by the end of summer

 

[ceo]

I like tri-tren blends with ace, enanthate and hex. Good stuff.

 

[Saiyan7]

Hope everyone's good and safe.. I went to go do chest and tri's today and thought I was about to have a stroke I was sweating a little more then normal I felt super faint and lightheaded I ended up calling it early.. I was going to hit it again latter but I thought I'd just rest and hit it hard tomorrow..

A few friends say they get hypo on tren. Just keep an eye on in and get those fluids! I have such a hard time drinking enough.

 

[trt newbie]

Yeeeeee whattttup!! An it's goin good man! Fuckin STUCK at 212-215 Lolol I am seriously eating away 350$ a week of food... No joke... The tren is just like disposing of every calorie hshaha still growin n gettin leaner I feel so that's good. I think Ima pass on the var, I have this urge to drop my tren dose down a bit and add in deca and drol it's either that or I think I'll just drag this out another month or so then have a little cruise break... Would be the wise decision.... But I really don't want to hahaha! Just wanna Fakin be a savage 240 pound beast by the end of summer

Man I'm jealous if I start to cheat a little more here and there I start to get soft, but definitely bigger too haha. I'm just trying to stay lean as fuck but it's so hard!! I love food to much haha. No I just need to be stricter on my diet for a longer period of time I'll be on top of it for a week then come the next week my body's like FEED ME!!! Haha shit sucks. Glad your getting it tho man..

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Man I'm jealous if I start to cheat a little more here and there I start to get soft, but definitely bigger too haha. I'm just trying to stay lean as fuck but it's so hard!! I love food to much haha. No I just need to be stricter on my diet for a longer period of time I'll be on top of it for a week then come the next week my body's like FEED ME!!! Haha shit sucks. Glad your getting it tho man..

No doubt bro... I've basically come to the conclusion thought that it's not worth dieting down to bone dry shredded until your so beast mode that you can get that lean and still be a monster... Or your stepping on stage... But I think long slow bulks with quick 4-6 week cuts is how I'm gunna do it from now on till I hit like 240 around 12%.

I love food to much too bro, once I deprive myself for long enough it's jus like FUCK IT time to grow!! Too HANGRY for this shit hahaha. Abs are over rated anyways lol, once you get big enough in the upper body and legs you can be soft and it's not even noticeable anymore.

Definately wanna run the deca/drol combo but it's whether I start it in a week or 2 or wait till after summer so I can just hoodie up and get fat as fuck for winter again hahaha

 

[trt newbie]

No doubt bro... I've basically come to the conclusion thought that it's not worth dieting down to bone dry shredded until your so beast mode that you can get that lean and still be a monster... Or your stepping on stage... But I think long slow bulks with quick 4-6 week cuts is how I'm gunna do it from now on till I hit like 240 around 12%.

I love food to much too bro, once I deprive myself for long enough it's jus like FUCK IT time to grow!! Too HANGRY for this shit hahaha. Abs are over rated anyways lol, once you get big enough in the upper body and legs you can be soft and it's not even noticeable anymore.

Definately wanna run the deca/drol combo but it's whether I start it in a week or 2 or wait till after summer so I can just hoodie up and get fat as fuck for winter again hahaha

Haha fuck ya I think I'm going to do a bulk like that next fall test eq deca and kick with drol.. I think Id get up to at least 230 on that cycle.. How tall are you bro? I'm only 5'9" I wish I was at least 6' but hey can't have it all right

 

[trt newbie]

Dude I just weighed myself after the gym right now I'm weighing 218 . And the little bit of abs I had are basically gone.. Lol I have been sneaking in a little junk food everyday for a week now... Time to start cracking down again.

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Dude I just weighed myself after the gym right now I'm weighing 218 . And the little bit of abs I had are basically gone.. Lol I have been sneaking in a little junk food everyday for a week now... Time to start cracking down again.

Bahahaha! Dirty gains crew squaaaaaad up! I'm 5'11 btw

I hear ya tho bro... At least we know one thing, appetite will never be a problem for us when bulking

You should see if you can get your hands on some meridia... It's the most insane appetite suppressant bro, you can literally eat breakfast, get a bunch of protein and some veggies down, take this pill and you won't be hungry again till like before bed it's badass

 

[trt newbie]

Haha that's for sure I can eat.. I'm excited to add eq in my winter bulk this fall goofily around thanks giving I'm about to grub.. But I really need to get my diet in check I want to at least have a little abs for the summer. If not just be little in the middle of you know what I'm saying.

 

[trt newbie]

Hopefully**

 

[bigorse]

Been on eq like 4 weeks and its starting to do its thing, not super vascular as im not shredded but i have a few hose pipes at about 215

 

[trt newbie]

Been on eq like 4 weeks and its starting to do its thing, not super vascular as im not shredded but i have a few hose pipes at about 215

Nice man looking good.. What other compounds are you on and what's your dosages on em?

 

[bigorse]

Nice man looking good.. What other compounds are you on and what's your dosages on em?

400 test e
600 eq (want bump to 750 depending on mew source)
100mg anadrol ed

Tren e will be added in about 4 at 600mgs

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Been on eq like 4 weeks and its starting to do its thing, not super vascular as im not shredded but i have a few hose pipes at about 215

Damn son! Keepin that waist real toght bro, solid work...

And yes the EQ cock veins look like they are starting to come in full force... I'm seriously debating dropping my tren down to about 500 bringing my test back up to about 750 and adding deca at 600 or 750 as well, and maybe my bottle of drol gets popped hahaha! But I know I'll get watery and I'm pretty diced right now Soni kinda wanna stay diced for summer, and jus slowly add a bit of size then go balls out in August... But at the same time I just wanna fuckin eat n grow and leave my shredded ego in the trash... Donno lol

 

[bigorse]

Damn son! Keepin that waist real toght bro, solid work...

And yes the EQ cock veins look like they are starting to come in full force... I'm seriously debating dropping my tren down to about 500 bringing my test back up to about 750 and adding deca at 600 or 750 as well, and maybe my bottle of drol gets popped hahaha! But I know I'll get watery and I'm pretty diced right now Soni kinda wanna stay diced for summer, and jus slowly add a bit of size then go balls out in August... But at the same time I just wanna fuckin eat n grow and leave my shredded ego in the trash... Donno lol

Just add 750mgs of eq in a low anadrol like 50mgs, on 100mgs of drol im hit and miss with how i look in terms of drol but its doing its job, im up like 30lbs in the last 8 weeks and 20 of those in the last 2 weeks since adding drol

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Just add 750mgs of eq in a low anadrol like 50mgs, on 100mgs of drol im hit and miss with how i look in terms of drol but its doing its job, im up like 30lbs in the last 8 weeks and 20 of those in the last 2 weeks since adding drol

Yeah that's not a bad idea, man I've been shovelling food down my
Throat like crazy these past couple weeks and I've actually lost a couple pounds even with my massive like 6-7k overfeed every weekend. My food bill is getting outrageous.

 

[bigorse]

Yeah that's not a bad idea, man I've been shovelling food down my
Throat like crazy these past couple weeks and I've actually lost a couple pounds even with my massive like 6-7k overfeed every weekend. My food bill is getting outrageous.

Food is expensive! Fuck drugs food is the real killer dont know how these people run 6+iu of GH a day!

 

[SwollenMember_18]

Food is expensive! Fuck drugs food is the real killer dont know how these people run 6+iu of GH a day!

No doubt!!! I'm averaging 300-350/week on food alone it's killing me Lolol. Eating cheap too like rice potatoes oats chicken turkey beef eggs peanutbutter Greek yogurt and cottage cheese plus veggies makes up most of my diet and it's like it just disappears daily hahaha. Goddamnit.

 

[trt newbie]

View attachment 139442 decent angle flexed View attachment 139443 decent angle not flexed I need to get back on my diet... And start hitting a lot more cardio.. I just added won't today so hopefully it'll dry me out a little more and make me more motivated to eat super clean lol. I'll give it two weeks of eating super clean then I'll post another pic and let you guys know how it's turning out lol. Wish me luck

 

[trt newbie]

Winny**

 

[SwollenMember_18]

View attachment 139442 decent angle flexed View attachment 139443 decent angle not flexed I need to get back on my diet... And start hitting a lot more cardio.. I just added won't today so hopefully it'll dry me out a little more and make me more motivated to eat super clean lol. I'll give it two weeks of eating super clean then I'll post another pic and let you guys know how it's turning out lol. Wish me luck

That shit will melt the fuck off, seriously tren will recomp the shit out of you as soon as you click your diet in.... A trick that works for me when torching fat is not to eat carbs pre workout just protein and fat and veggies than again afterwards just protein and fat than have some carbs like an hour or 2 after that... Keeps the fat burning process going all through the night then all through the day till your done training.

Seems to work really well for me. I always have that lower back fat though, even when I was like 175 pounds and literally 5% bodyfat I still had a bit of hang back there... I think DNP would literally be the only way I could get rid of it... Or an insanely low calorie intake which I'm just not willing to do unless I'm gunna compete.

You'll be able to make a massive body comp change with one full month of no cheats, cardio everyday, and a controlled diet for sure... You thought about running some Clen? It really gets the process going for me and seeing the fast results from it keeps me motivated

Lookin solid tho bruh! Once the taper starts to show its gunna really enhance the rest of your physique for sure

 

[SwollenMember_18]

P.S. I reallllly wanna pop my drol bottle tomorrow

Opinions:

Option A - add dbol/anadrol combo 30mg/dbol, 75mg/drol 5 weeks keep tren and test the same as now 700/400 or bump test to 800

Option B - add EQ 750/week, 100mg drol/Ed keep tren and test same as now 700/400 or bump test to 800

 

[trt newbie]

I'm likening b lol.. Man I can't wait to try drol. And ya I've considered Clem I was actually reading up on it yesterday I think.. I was thinking about bridging this cycle and my next cycle with my 200cyp a week from my doc maybe 40-60mg of var and clen 2 weeks on 2 off for 2 months then blast away again.. But I really think I should just take two months off of everything except my cyp. decisions decisions.

 

[trt newbie]

I've also been looking into this stuff called GW501560 aka caradine it sounds awesome.