Tren and Valium

[georgie24]

good advice yomama, however look into klonipin 2mg and your all set!! has a nice long half life but no HANGOVER like valium. klonopin is my favorite when anxiety/agitation is spiking. if valium is all you can get then go for it, its better than nothing

 

[Phaded]

a side note! yes melatonin works but it kills your libido. i find that 3 mg is a sane amount for no longer than 2-3 days... klonipin is your best bet as its bber friendly and its easy to get off of.. any benzo will work fine though just dont abuse it

benzo's are super addicting my friend i would not go this route.

 

[yomama]

good advice yomama, however look into klonipin 2mg and your all set!! has a nice long half life but no HANGOVER like valium. klonopin is my favorite when anxiety/agitation is spiking. if valium is all you can get then go for it, its better than nothing

Could a person trade a pack of Trident Gum for 2mg of klonipin or would it be half a pack?

 

[georgie24]

????? lol.... nope a full pack

 

[Lowest]

Damn, I got plenty of gum, can I trade too? Lol, klonopin is my fav. for sleeping as well. Or just to chill when the tren hits hard. I've had scripts for it on and off for 5 years, and I've never had a tolerance or addiction problem. Wish my long-time source for it hadn't retired this summer though, I sleep like crap again

 

[ATLmuscles]

Valium is an anti-anxiety drug that can cause drowsiness and that is fat soluble; thus it can cause a rebound effect, leaving you groggy the next day. Do you have this reaction? Certainly not helpful to your training. Lorazepam is a newer drug that does not cause this rebound, while relieving anxiety. I take one before dental appointments, prescribed by my dentist. But really, neither of these is an ideal sleep aid. I think you'd be better taking a bit of GHB or an ambien. DOn't make a habit of the ambien though.

 

[Lowest]

ATL, good info but a bit mis-leading. Lorazepam and diazepam are the same class of drug. Valium has a "rebound" effect, as you call it, b/c it has a longer half-life and an active secondary metabolite, not b/c of it's solubility. Lorazepam, or ativan, can cause a rebound just as easily if you take too much, or don't sleep long enough. And it's really not newer than valium. Ambien is the same type of drug, but much newer and different class, but still the same effect. Klonopin or ambien is usually the best bet for sleeping, medium half-life and better sleep induction than ativan. Ativan would probably be better for daytime anxiety the way you use it though, I hate the damn dentist

 

[georgie24]

be careful with ativan, that was a mean bitch to get off of, and i used it for like 4-5 days @ 4-6 mg. i learned that ativan is best used @ .5 mg for social occasions. the ones i had were ip 2mg.

 

[yomama]

Damn, I got plenty of gum, can I trade too? Lol, klonopin is my fav. for sleeping as well. Or just to chill when the tren hits hard. I've had scripts for it on and off for 5 years, and I've never had a tolerance or addiction problem. Wish my long-time source for it hadn't retired this summer though, I sleep like crap again

Join the club.

 

[BBC]

good advice yomama, however look into klonipin 2mg and your all set!! has a nice long half life but no HANGOVER like valium. klonopin is my favorite when anxiety/agitation is spiking. if valium is all you can get then go for it, its better than nothing

Klonopin is a very nice drug. I use it for anxiety, but it not only does it help with that, I find it very euphoric.

But, depending on the length of your cycle, I wouldn't take a benzo for too long of a duration. Tolerance can build up fast and addiction can set in quickly.