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Tren and Clomid

eddymerckx said:
if you have to ask you need too do a lot more research

I DISAGREE! The man was curious about his opinion. Many many people think tren and clomid are great! Many do not. There are tons of reasons for asking "why" in this situation. There are MILLIONS of people who would say that you need to do more research if you touch test, and millions (maybe) that think those folks are crazy. Two sides to every arguement. I think its a valid question that deserves a response, which I am sure Nelson is glad to give!
 
kludgeS13 said:
What is a time length for a novice to do a cycle with just tren and then a pct with clomid. This is what I've been able to gather from the web so far, any input?

tren 100mg every other day for 8 weeks
clomi 100 mg/day 3 weeks

First time tren users may only run that dose for 4-6 weeks. The sides are not something that you need to deal with as a novice AAS user. Test & or an oral like Dbol or Drol are the normal options used to stack wuith Tren. Clomid is not that suitable for use in PCT after a tren cycle. Tren is a progesterone receptor agonist & the type of post cycle problems likely to be encountered are more prolactin based than estrogen based. So the ancillaries that you are more likely to need are prolactin inhibitors like dostinex & perhaps an AI like Aromisan of Letrozole. You can see that there is quite a bit to know how the different drugs interact in the body & I have only touched on a couple of things that a Tren user needs to know.
 
nzrodney said:
First time tren users may only run that dose for 4-6 weeks. The sides are not something that you need to deal with as a novice AAS user. Test & or an oral like Dbol or Drol are the normal options used to stack wuith Tren. Clomid is not that suitable for use in PCT after a tren cycle. Tren is a progesterone receptor agonist & the type of post cycle problems likely to be encountered are more prolactin based than estrogen based. So the ancillaries that you are more likely to need are prolactin inhibitors like dostinex & perhaps an AI like Aromisan of Letrozole. You can see that there is quite a bit to know how the different drugs interact in the body & I have only touched on a couple of things that a Tren user needs to know.
So for a Tren 100mg EOD Test P 100mg EOD cycle for 8 weeks winnny @50mg ED for weeks 5-8 what would be the best PCT?
 
navigatorrs said:
So for a Tren 100mg EOD Test P 100mg EOD cycle for 8 weeks winnny @50mg ED for weeks 5-8 what would be the best PCT?

You should get HCG and derma also some clomid...i hear alot about unleashed but never used it
 
eddymerckx said:
if you have to ask you need too do a lot more research

you know, without posting any angry response, let me get a few things straight. I studied tren..from the effects on cattle to that on past human users. I then contacted a biophysacist and had him explain to me the molecular compounds in tren and what possible effects it may have on a human. I then contacted roughly 10 tren users that I have come in contact with over the years and listed both pros and cons that were explained.

That being said, I further studied the sides and researched the rate at which many of the cons are experienced at different dosages. I could go on and on, but the simple fact is, this board is used for various things...to learn, to teach, and to entertain. I asked a question so that I may expand my knowledge - that is the point of asking a damn question. Your response "do more research" makes no sense since that is what I was attempting to do by asking the question to begin with.

In the future, perhaps short one sentence replies could be reworded in order to show your support for someone attemption to gain knowledge instead of showing your lack of support whatsoever. SHIT!
 
herblcure said:
you know, without posting any angry response, let me get a few things straight. I studied tren..from the effects on cattle to that on past human users. I then contacted a biophysacist and had him explain to me the molecular compounds in tren and what possible effects it may have on a human. I then contacted roughly 10 tren users that I have come in contact with over the years and listed both pros and cons that were explained.

That being said, I further studied the sides and researched the rate at which many of the cons are experienced at different dosages. I could go on and on, but the simple fact is, this board is used for various things...to learn, to teach, and to entertain. I asked a question so that I may expand my knowledge - that is the point of asking a damn question. Your response "do more research" makes no sense since that is what I was attempting to do by asking the question to begin with.

In the future, perhaps short one sentence replies could be reworded in order to show your support for someone attemption to gain knowledge instead of showing your lack of support whatsoever. SHIT!

Yes agree with your complaint. It would seem that your query was taken out of context with the other posts. I feel that this happens quite often. In some cases its because the responses to posts are not properly concidered in accordance with the surrounding replies. ie. people just quickly pick up on a topic & make a random reply without reading the whole thread to see where its going. I believe from memory the Nelson has made his feelings clear about his dislike of Tren & Clomid (& other compounds) from time to time on other threads. Have you posted your study of tren users anywhere on the board? I would be very interested in reading your conclusions.
 
kludgeS13 said:
big greg: no access to test, or anything else for that matter

enacer: basically, stats are mid 20s, 180lbs, 6'1", 9%bf, been lifting 10 yrs for fitness and sports, not bb


brotha,

you shouldn't do a drug just because it's all you have access to.

trenbolone is NOT a drug for beginners and it is not ideal to run
it alone.

i love trenbolone, but i am an advanced trainer and i use it
sparingly and with much respect.

i will not cosign yours ( or anybody else's ) bullshit.

:)
 
actually, if you read the thread, he talks about a "novice cycle"
if he did indeed talk to all these professionals, which one suggested tren-only cyle and much less for a novice cycle??? this suggests either he or his research subjects do not have the first clue as to what he is doing--

i for one will not encourage someone to begin a cycle when they do not have even the most basic understanding of the pro/cons/and general gear use protocol--much less the specific compound they are considering. moreover, how can one have done the research he claims to have done and not know that clomid can be hell on bros--or that tren alone is a bad idea, and bad for a first cycle.

if my answer was terse, it came from talking so many bros off a precipice b/c they come here to hear certain answers--nothing more--and giving advice w/o first finding out his stats is not helpful what so ever and could be harmful--

-"yea, tren is fine"---then you read a obit about a 16 yo with severe asthma who took tren and suffoctaed to death. remember--thousands more people read these thread than just the one asking the questions.
 
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