Tren ace - test 400 log who's in??

[Deebo88]

Alright guys I'm new to this forum, long time reader.. thought I would make my first log (it will be completed) wont bore you with details, this is my 3rd cycle, 1st time using tren, im on day 11 not really noticed any sides, slightly breathless at times, no sweats or cough.. not noticed any extra strength or vascularity yet, changed today from *** tren ace to *** tren ace, got a hot flush when pinning, heart pounding just took a few deep breaths and carried on, blood pressure has been up and down, highest 143/84 lowest 132/63 any suggestions? Heres how the cycle looks

1-8 50mg tren ace ed
1-10 600mg test 400 ew

Prami
Letro

Pct
Hcg
Clomid

Supps
Celery seed extract
Q10
Cod liver oil
Multi vitamins

Thoughts/critique welcome

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[EZ_E]

Welcome, glad to have you officially on board...

What's you age and specs? How long training? What were your 1st 2 cycles?

I think you need more PCT...

~EZ

 

[joeblow12345]

Add n2guard, drop test in half, problem solved.

 

[semper03]

I'd drop test to 500 and up tren to 75.

Don't use letro as an AI. It's very powerful stuff, use aromasin 12.5mg instead.

 

[EZ_E]

Add n2guard, drop test in half, problem solved.

+1 on the test dose

 

[stevesmi]

bp is high cause you are running too much gear. not really complicated. halve your dosages on both the tren and test

i don't know why guys insist on overdosing on gear and getting ridiculous sides which end up hurting their workouts and sleep.. makes no sense to me.

 

[Deebo88]

Thanks for the input guys,

Age 24
Weight 86kg
Height 5'9
Body fat 12%

My goal is to put on some decent mass with this cycle and keep body fat the same (maybe add 2 extra weeks to the cycle for short cut to drop a few lbs of fat if needed)

You think I should halve test and up tren? I was under the impression if test was that low you wouldn't get so much mass?

Letro was all my supplier had so just been running 0.25 e3d will switch to arimidex when he gets it in

First 2 cycles was test e with dbol kick start, been training for 10 years but only really started training propperly 3 years ago in regards to workout plans and diet.

Do you think I should have noticed something from the tren by now besides what iv listed? I was expecting sweats etc by now but everyones different I guess



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[stevesmi]

no halve both your test and tren.

you are confusing mass with water weight ... it is a myth that tren isn't a mass gainer. it is the king of kings when it comes to mass and strength. people think its not a mass gainer cause you don't bloat up like a fish like you would of test and dbol.

THEN when you get your sides under control you can start raising your tren dose if you choose but i don't think its necessary to run tren over 200 or 250 a week.

 

[RickRock13]

I would mirror exactly what Steve said. Good quality lean gains are what you are after, and cutting your doses down will be ample to fit that goal while keeping you healthier than running the high doses.

 

[Deebo88]

Ok thanks for the advice, like I say there isnt really any sides at the min that I would confidently pin on the tren, to be honest im starting to question the quality of the gear, I dont think id like to run either at less than 350 each per week but will consider it if I start to see that its working as it should. Will give it one more week at this dose and if all is good ill drop to 250 a week as you advised

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