o.k. ... and most I would assume taste like piss waterThe Shadow said:All Lite Beer Is Low In Carbs Usually.
lol
o.k. ... and most I would assume taste like piss waterThe Shadow said:All Lite Beer Is Low In Carbs Usually.
treilin said:o.k. ... and most I would assume taste like piss water
lol
They are so adorable, I want to pinch their cheeks!!!! Thanks you!*Bunny* said:fun pics for you![]()
I know I love them all, if my back yard wasnt already a mine field I would get a couple more pups... soon very soontreilin said:They are so adorable, I want to pinch their cheeks!!!! Thanks you!
treilin said:Shadow I sent you an e-mail to your Cornholio e-mail address....
treilin said:Thanks Skittles. Little nervous about the BF going up but... that I suppose will happen with muscle increase.
My BF is 19.1, weight was 140.2 this a.m.
I don't know how to do the how much fat gain and muscle gain that Shadow posts.
Also, Shadow do you think I should keep the food intake the same?
140.2, and 19.1The Shadow said:weird..I responded to this but it didnt take it
what was you last weight and BF.....
The Shadow said:new pics....Ill let Treil post her weight and Bf....her bf went up a bit - remember though - she is interested in gaining....

Shanks ma 'am*Bunny* said:Tre, looking great sweetie, keep up the good work![]()
*Bunny* said:Tre, looking great sweetie, keep up the good work![]()
treilin said:140.2, and 19.1
136.6, and 18.1
K how much?The Shadow said:113.4 26.8 - NOW
111.9 24.7 - THEN
so...you have gained fat and muscle...bump cardio a bit
treilin said:K how much?
Alright but keep the food intake the same?!The Shadow said:add 1 more cycle each cardio session this week...add 5 minutes to the longer slower sessionj
Alright... More Cardio it is...The Shadow said:
treilin said:O.k. So I am confused....
I weighed this a.m. at 138.2 That's a two pound difference from yesterday. My BF now registers at 18.1 again... What the heck is going on??? Does the digital calipers take into account water weight gain? Apparently I must have had some... I sent Shadow a couple pics of my stomach this morning since I can't upload them so the pics also back up my findings.I know I dropped my carbs the past two days... but come on...
Today's agenda:
M1 Protein,oatmeal,yogurt (2.5 g creatine, glutamine)
M2 Almonds
M3 Chicken, Spinach, 3 oz sweet potatoe, strawberries
M4 Zone bar
M5 Spinach, Shrimp, Low carb pasta
Gym
M6 Protein, 1.5 C Milk (2.5 g Creatine/glutamine), 1T Flaxseed oil
Cal 1758, 176 Protein, 55 Fat, 140 Carb (11 Fiber)
(41/29/30)
treilin said:O.k. So I am confused....
I weighed this a.m. at 138.2 That's a two pound difference from yesterday. My BF now registers at 18.1 again... What the heck is going on??? Does the digital calipers take into account water weight gain? Apparently I must have had some... I sent Shadow a couple pics of my stomach this morning since I can't upload them so the pics also back up my findings.I know I dropped my carbs the past two days... but come on...
Today's agenda:
M1 Protein,oatmeal,yogurt (2.5 g creatine, glutamine)
M2 Almonds
M3 Chicken, Spinach, 3 oz sweet potatoe, strawberries
M4 Zone bar
M5 Spinach, Shrimp, Low carb pasta
Gym
M6 Protein, 1.5 C Milk (2.5 g Creatine/glutamine), 1T Flaxseed oil
Cal 1758, 176 Protein, 55 Fat, 140 Carb (11 Fiber)
(41/29/30)
The Shadow said:ok - saw the pics - WOW!!!
have some ab/oblique lines going on......
I think the pics yesterday has residual water from the weekend bump in carbs...
wow - those look great...18 looks about right...maybe a shade less
Alright will do. So that means I didn't gain all that fat we thought.. Phew.... That's a relief. I got up and was like o.k. I feel different and weighed myself then looked in the mirror and was like ummm... grabbed the calipers just in case. I figured pictures are good so I took a few just to make sure. I compared today's and yesterday's pictures and can see a big difference. That's when I decided to send them off to you.The Shadow said:in fact..use those numbers instead of yesterdays.....keep the slight bump in cardio though
Thanks! Yeah he thinks he's the shit. Running around here right now squeaking a snowman he got at the vet's. They spoil him there.*Bunny* said:OH MY GOD , I LOVE YOUR PUPPY so cuteeeeeeeeeee
treilin said:Thanks! Yeah he thinks he's the shit. Running around here right now squeaking a snowman he got at the vet's. They spoil him there.
Man it sucks I don't have access to Elite at work now. They upped teh security on the systems...![]()
Yeah they are updated... but not the real updated I sent Shadow two pics this morning. I can't upload them here from home... Always had that issue. Maybe he'll upload them so everyone can see the difference "bloating" can cause.*Bunny* said:That sucks...we need to override that $hit.... btw are those updated pics too? Looking good TRE
I think mine might be a little like that tonight, Ill take some more in the AM for a comparision - I LOVE the way I feel in the morningtreilin said:Yeah they are updated... but not the real updated I sent Shadow two pics this morning. I can't upload them here from home... Always had that issue. Maybe he'll upload them so everyone can see the difference "bloating" can cause.
Well I normally take them in the a.m. but I was traveling... So they were taken in the p.m. a day later. My as well wait till the morning to do it!*Bunny* said:I think mine might be a little like that tonight, Ill take some more in the AM for a comparision - I LOVE the way I feel in the morning![]()
I was going to but I took my 1st pics at night Jan 25th, so I just want to have an accurate comparison ya knowtreilin said:Well I normally take them in the a.m. but I was traveling... So they were taken in the p.m. a day later. My as well wait till the morning to do it!
rightio*Bunny* said:I was going to but I took my 1st pics at night Jan 25th, so I just want to have an accurate comparison ya knoweither way, the more pics the better
*hint* *hint* I guess not...treilin said:Yeah they are updated... but not the real updated I sent Shadow two pics this morning. I can't upload them here from home... Always had that issue. Maybe he'll upload them so everyone can see the difference "bloating" can cause.
treilin said:*hint* *hint* I guess not...
They are the correct size because I sized them... I still have that issue with this computer of uploading images.... Still no smilies either... I give up trying to figure it out.The Shadow said:my ef mail is down again...they look to be the correct asize...try to upload them
treilin said:They are the correct size because I sized them... I still have that issue with this computer of uploading images.... Still no smilies either... I give up trying to figure it out.
I offered via PMThe Shadow said:hmmm.....maybe someone can volunteer to help post them
...they are GREAT
See I can get them in my gallery... You can check under my profile and see them. I just cannot for some stupid reason attach any type of file to a message... WierdThe Shadow said:hmmm.....maybe someone can volunteer to help post them
...they are GREAT
Thanks by the waytreilin said:See I can get them in my gallery... You can check under my profile and see them. I just cannot for some stupid reason attach any type of file to a message... Wierd
Good Job! That was team work!The Shadow said:
Guess I dont need to help then ShadOwThe Shadow said:
Babe you don't need to do more abs... It's the cardio that makes them start appearing. Working abs will make them bigger but make the fat layer on top puff out more. I never did abs till this past year when I started losing the BF off. No point in it... unless I wanted to see the measuring tape go up....*Bunny* said:Guess I dont need to help then ShadOw
I wanna do more abs : pouting :
treilin said:Good Job! That was team work!

Thank you ladyvelvett said:YYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW (Sassy - I'm practicing)
LOOKING GREAT!
Checkout that shape.
![]()
treilin said:Babe you don't need to do more abs... It's the cardio that makes them start appearing. Working abs will make them bigger but make the fat layer on top puff out more. I never did abs till this past year when I started losing the BF off. No point in it... unless I wanted to see the measuring tape go up....
Ha Ha you are making me blushvelvett said:Great hip bones...
among other things - I just couldn't help but to notice...
I feel like the hole is getting deeper
ok.. right.
um yah
treilin said:Yohimburn-Trex1
35 minute run
M1 Trex(1), glucorell-r, 2.5 g creatine and glutamine, 1.5 C milk, protein powder
M2 Almonds .35C
M3 Trex (2)chicken, 1 C spinach, 1C blueberries, 3oz sweet potatoe
M4 Zone bar
M5 Shrimp, spinach 1 C, 1 C low-carb pasta
gym
M6 glucorell-r, 2.5 g creatine and glutamine, 1.5C milk, protein powder, Flaxseed oil 1T
1758 Cal, 186 g protein, 57 g fat, 126 g carb (8 g fiber)
(43/30/27)
weight 138.8
Thanks Ma 'am!*Bunny* said:keep it up girl, great stomach shot![]()
Thank youskittles said:I'm lovin your tummy..............looks great![]()
Nice work![]()
The Shadow said:Grrrrrrrrr
lol i thought he was growlin or something too lol,skittles said:
Ha ha... He's like a dog. My dog growls too... He goes Grrrrrr. Shadow do you get down on your front fore arms and stick your butt up in the air when you do that also? Like my puppy dog....The Shadow said:Grrrrrrrrr
lmfaotreilin said:Ha ha... He's like a dog. My dog growls too... He goes Grrrrrr. Shadow do you get down on your front fore arms and stick your butt up in the air when you do that also? Like my puppy dog....

treilin said:Ha ha... He's like a dog. My dog growls too... He goes Grrrrrr. Shadow do you get down on your front fore arms and stick your butt up in the air when you do that also? Like my puppy dog....
Ha ha... welllll Yeah there are LOTS of ways to growl I guess that would be doggy style.. LMAOThe Shadow said:of course...is there an other way?
treilin said:Ha ha... welllll Yeah there are LOTS of ways to growl I guess that would be doggy style.. LMAO
Ha ha... AhhhhhThe Shadow said:wow
Im blushing
treilin said:Weight:
Dec 28th = 137.8
Jan 12th = 138.8
Jan 23rd = 136.2
Feb 7th = I'll tell you tomorrow
Body Fat Percentages:
Dec 29th = 22%
Jan 12th = 20.5%
Jan 23rd = 18.1%
Feb 6th = 17.3%
Date: Dec 29th, Jan12, Jan23, Feb 7th
Neck: 13 1/2, 12 3/4, 12 3/4, 12 3/4
Shoulders: 40 1/2, 40 3/4, 41 1/4, 43 1/2
Chest: 36, 35 1/2, 35 1/2, 35
Upper Waist: 30, 29 1/2, 28 3/4, 29 1/4
Lower Waist: 33 1/2, 32 3/4, 32 1/4, 31 3/4
Hips: 36 3/4, 34 1/2, 34 1/4, 34 1/2
Upper(RT) arm: 12 1/2, 11 1/2 (12 1/2 flexed), 12 (12 1/2 flexed), 11 3/4 (12 1/2 Flex)
Upper(LT) arm: 12, 11 (12 flexed), 12 (12 1/8 flexed), 11 3/4 (12 1/16 Flex)
Thigh (RT): 22 1/4, 21 3/4, not quite 22, 22
Thigh (LT): 23, 22, 22, 22
Calf (RT): 13 1/2, 13 1/4, 13 1/4, 13 3/4
Calf (LT): 13 1/2, 13 1/4, 13 1/4, 13 3/4
(I'll take pics and weight in the a.m. tomorrow)
Yeah I wasn't about to jump o the scale now and put that up as my weight. I can tell though even after the carb up this weekend that my stomach doesn't feel nor look as bloated as last week. My legs I can tell I have put more muscle on despite not the big flux in measurements. I can see more definition in them at the gym. Is my shoulder span just going to keep getting bigger and bigger? One of my brand-new shirts I only wore once before I could not wear this week because it was extremely tight in the shoulders and upper arms. What's a typical female span around the shoulders I guess?The Shadow said:WOW!!!
WOW!!!
FANTASTIC JOB!!!!!
you will notice that your muscle measurements are about the same - maybe a bit up.......
you havent lost ANY size..but are getting leaner and leaner
THAT is what you want....
1 - no drop in muscle measurements
2 - drop in waist and hips
3 - the scale weight on a progam like this and mine shouldnt change a lot....
treilin said:Yeah I wasn't about to jump o the scale now and put that up as my weight. I can tell though even after the carb up this weekend that my stomach doesn't feel nor look as bloated as last week. My legs I can tell I have put more muscle on despite not the big flux in measurements. I can see more definition in them at the gym. Is my shoulder span just going to keep getting bigger and bigger? One of my brand-new shirts I only wore once before I could not wear this week because it was extremely tight in the shoulders and upper arms. What's a typical female span around the shoulders I guess?
Thank youSassy69 said:Very awesome! Very!
Yeah it's an odd measurement. I have a fairly wide back for a female I know. Pretty soon I'll have a 10 inch difference between my shoulders and hips... Does that equal a bit off balanced though? I mean typically in competitions or even modeling what is a typical ratio?... and don't say "36-24-36 and only if she is 5'3" Like that song....The Shadow said:you cant answer that..
taller = generally a better shoulder base in terms of width....that does measure delts chest and upper bak though...I would imagine that numer to slow
treilin said:Yeah it's an odd measurement. I have a fairly wide back for a female I know. Pretty soon I'll have a 10 inch difference between my shoulders and hips... Does that equal a bit off balanced though? I mean typically in competitions or even modeling what is a typical ratio?... and don't say "36-24-36 and only if she is 5'3" Like that song....
You are right... I was just looking them up. Is there any place where you can get their actual measurements though?The Shadow said:NO....EVERY comp is about the shouler to hip taper...every single one......the only thing that would throw overall symmetry off is lack of thigh sweep
Look at Lenda Murray and Cory Everson...they has insane tapers...
treilin said:You are right... I was just looking them up. Is there any place where you can get their actual measurements though?
Ohhh yeah ummmm I don't own one or two in this case... of those curves. Geared up I'm assuming you meant on roids.The Shadow said:sweep = the curves on the outer upper things:
http://www.elitefitness.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15123&sort=1&cat=500&page=3
treilin said:Ohhh yeah ummmm I don't own one or two in this case... of those curves. Geared up I'm assuming you meant on roids.
Well put it this way... I had the pole legs when I graduated HS not one line of definition. The only reason I have definition in my calves was because I was embarassed of them and killed them at the gym 4 days a week for 6 months and out popped calves. Running has helped immensly in the upper thigh developement. After 6 months of really long runs I developed the line on the side of the upper leg. Leg extensions is the one exercise I noticed that had benefited my quads the most in the past. More recently it's been the leg press for those. The squats I am finding to be more beneficial in the butt region now then in the past. Everything comes in time with persistence.The Shadow said:yep....at that level...its a must.
the sweeps will come in time.....I had zero sweep when I started training
treilin said:Weight:
Dec 28th = 137.8
Jan 12th = 138.8
Jan 23rd = 136.2
Feb 7th = I'll tell you tomorrow
Body Fat Percentages:
Dec 29th = 22%
Jan 12th = 20.5%
Jan 23rd = 18.1%
Feb 6th = 17.3%
Date: Dec 29th, Jan12, Jan23, Feb 7th
Neck: 13 1/2, 12 3/4, 12 3/4, 12 3/4
Shoulders: 40 1/2, 40 3/4, 41 1/4, 43 1/2
Chest: 36, 35 1/2, 35 1/2, 35
Upper Waist: 30, 29 1/2, 28 3/4, 29 1/4
Lower Waist: 33 1/2, 32 3/4, 32 1/4, 31 3/4
Hips: 36 3/4, 34 1/2, 34 1/4, 34 1/2
Upper(RT) arm: 12 1/2, 11 1/2 (12 1/2 flexed), 12 (12 1/2 flexed), 11 3/4 (12 1/2 Flex)
Upper(LT) arm: 12, 11 (12 flexed), 12 (12 1/8 flexed), 11 3/4 (12 1/16 Flex)
Thigh (RT): 22 1/4, 21 3/4, not quite 22, 22
Thigh (LT): 23, 22, 22, 22
Calf (RT): 13 1/2, 13 1/4, 13 1/4, 13 3/4
Calf (LT): 13 1/2, 13 1/4, 13 1/4, 13 3/4
(I'll take pics and weight in the a.m. tomorrow)

Holy hotness...The Shadow said:sweep = the curves on the outer upper things:
http://www.elitefitness.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=15123&sort=1&cat=500&page=3
treilin said:Thanks Ladies,
Weight 140.4 *Getting to be that time of the month-- I think I am holding onto a little water...
yohimburn lotion trex (1)
HIIT (30 minutes ) 8 cycles
M1 Trex(1),glucorell-r, 2.5 g creatine and glutamine, 1.5C milk, protein powder
M2 Zone Bar
M3 Trex 2:Beef Jerky, spinach (Meeting lunch)
M4 Cottage Cheese (1 C), strawberries (1C)
M5 Chicken breast, 3 Oz Sweet potatoe, Green Peas
gym
M6 glucorell-r, 2.5 g creatine and glutamine, 1.5C milk, 1.5 scoop protein powder,
Flaxseed oil 1T
M7 .25 C Almonds
1783 Cal, 177 g protein, 57 g fat, 140 g carb (14 g fiber)
(42/30/29)
SHADOW: Pics I e-mailed you..... I'll try and get some whole body ones this afternoon... Crunched on time
treilin said:I posted two leg pics in my gallery... Not much to see, but they are there.
So glad you are not going for this look...treilin said:... I had the pole legs when I graduated HS not one line of definition.
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