work specifically with shoulders - heavy barbell shrugs or dumbell shrugs - usually pyramid the weight up to either 4 or 5 sets. traps also get worked while doing my deads though
should they? sounds kinda definite even though it only makes sense to work them with delts when they are already used earlier in both the pushing(presses) and pulling(rows) movements of the shoulder workout. Thanks for the advice though I will make sure that I tell all the people that pay me to train them that you said it should be done that way.
Right now I'm cutting and going for definition, so I'm doing a lot more sets at lower weights - so it's not as bad as it probably looks. I also just do this shoulders workout alone - not with another muscle group right now.
shoulders and biceps when I'm going for strength are both right around 9 sets (3 exercises) each - since they are both smaller muscle groups.