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needtogetaas
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nervana sucked big ass.and yes I would say way over rated.Wootoom said:
matalica on the other hand is pritty dame good.lessen to there shit in the gym all the time gets me siked.
needtogetaas
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if you ask me the most over rated band/singer was that sick fuck that sucks his own dick.wtf was his name.did a reamake of that butiful people song.god he sucks.
needtogetaas
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I never even herd of them till he killed himself.Wootoom said:
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perkele said:
sorry perk but something had to be done to push ratt and tesla out of the way. Smells like teen spirit isn't there best song btw and look what grohl did(foo fighters) so you know there was talent there.
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needtogetaas
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holey shit the beatles over rated.flex229 said:
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novamanms
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Aerosmith
anthrax said:
Besides setting the bar bit too high for others to follow as far musical talent goes? Nothing. Do you think that every band that hasn't changed the music industry is overrated?
Check out this Eagles Live DVD...
... and tell me how they can be overrated. Every song is like listening their studio records. 3-5 part vocal harmonies in every song sang absolutely perfectly. 4 lead singers and all top notch singers.
If Eagles is something, it's underrated, not overrated.
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novamanms
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Cue The Big Lebowski quote in 3...2...1...
Early Eagles with the original 4-piece lineup were pretty decent for the first couple of years, until they got away from the country music and started making commercial formulaic mainstream pop. I'd say the jump-the-shark moment for them was "One Of These Nights".
The Beatles and Nirvana are not only not overrated, they are not rated highly enough. Both bands left a wake that rippled through the whole music industry. I don't think Radiohead is overrated either, they are hugely creative and melodic. If only they'd get off that electronica kick they've been on for the last few years. "The Bends" and "OK Computer" are amazingly good pop-rock albums.
My three most overrated list:
Fleetwood Mac (the Buckingham/Nicks version)
Ozzy Osbourne
Steely Dan
The Beatles and Nirvana are not only not overrated, they are not rated highly enough. Both bands left a wake that rippled through the whole music industry. I don't think Radiohead is overrated either, they are hugely creative and melodic. If only they'd get off that electronica kick they've been on for the last few years. "The Bends" and "OK Computer" are amazingly good pop-rock albums.
My three most overrated list:
Fleetwood Mac (the Buckingham/Nicks version)
Ozzy Osbourne
Steely Dan
needtogetaas
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ya bro.I saw it and called it long time ago.they are a grate band.Wootoom said:
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novamanms
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No one seems to argue with my choice of Aerosmith.
Zep is a tad overrated. Good, but not as absolutely worship-worthy as they are made out to be.
Zep is a tad overrated. Good, but not as absolutely worship-worthy as they are made out to be.
anthrax said:
I dunno, I think they may be underrated. I've always been more of a Beatles fan, but if the Stones were only known for the work they did betwen 1968 and 1972 they'd still be considered one of the all time great acts. The string of albums they did during that period - Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street - leave little doubt of their prowess as songwriters and performers. They created a synthesis of British pop, American R&B, and Delta Blues that was melodic, muscular, greasy, and totally unique.
Okay, their output since then has been spotty, but there have been some high points, particularly "Some Girls".
As for retiring, if all I knew about their present state was their Superbowl performance, I'd agree with you. But friends who have seen their current tour say that their real shows are much tighter than that televised trainwreck.
Speaking of old Brits who are approaching retirement age, The Who are slowly working on a new album, which should be ready any year now. If the two new songs they hid on a 2004 greatest hits CD are any indication, this one is going to be the first great album they've done since Keith Moon died. The songs "Real Good Looking Boy" and "Old Red Wine", released on their
"Then and Now: 1964-2004" CD are wonderful. My guess is that, if it's ever released, this CD will be their swan song.
Just listen to the songs "Can You Hear Me Knocking" and "Monkey Man" and report back tomorrow.
Mr. dB said:
Buckingham/Nicks version? Ozzy/Zakk Wylde version too? Steely Dan/session music version?
I would expect bit more from you dude. "Radiohead is overrated either, they are hugely creative and melodic." So what the fuck is Steely Dan's music if not that and much more?
Extra_Strong
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Kiss!!!
Saintinistic
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anthrax said:
Kiss sucks. Listen to them, not very good music, but maybe two or three songs
Nirvana... anyone and almost everyone that grew up with that nasty 80's Pop/rock, yeah you heard me right, hates it since they made Poison go away thankfully
Metallica imo converted a lot of people to listen to a bit heavier music... but not until the black album, everything before that was awesome.
I can't Help the Eagles out, but they'd be alright to drink a few beers to at the local bar if they were live
Iron Butterfly, HIGHLY overrated.... although, not too many liked them all that much
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Nirvana... anyone and almost everyone that grew up with that nasty 80's Pop/rock, yeah you heard me right, hates it since they made Poison go away thankfully
Metallica imo converted a lot of people to listen to a bit heavier music... but not until the black album, everything before that was awesome.
I can't Help the Eagles out, but they'd be alright to drink a few beers to at the local bar if they were live
Iron Butterfly, HIGHLY overrated.... although, not too many liked them all that much
Whiskey
needtogetaas
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Metallica rules.
Extra_Strong
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anthrax said:
yes why I have never figured it out. what is it ? they just painted thier face.??
kethnaab
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perkele said:
Okay, this is nuts. Those bands didn't just "become popular", they completely changed music. I don't particularly like U2, but I recognize the influence they had on the music industry. I also don't particularly like Nirvana, they're okay, but they had an obviously powerful influence on the music industry.
Led Zeppelin (along with Ozzy/Black Sabbath) CREATED AN ENTIRE GENRE OF MUSIC. So they get removed from that list, period.
The Beatles released so many classic songs that they have become a part of culture for anyone growing up in the 60s, 70s and the 80s. They get removed also.
I disagree with the U2/Nirvana selection, but I can accept arguments.
In no way, shape or form can I accept Led Zeppelin or the Beatles being on this list of "overrated". You simply cannot overrate the best.
Metallica basically pioneered and created a very strong niche within a genre (the "thrash" metal genre within heavy metal, which was created by Led Zeppelin and Ozzy). Master of Puppets was their last awesome album. Their next 2 were good and okay. After that, meh.
Someone said System of a Down. Again, you may not *like* the music, but credit them with having a 100% original sound. They obviously have talent (Even if they use it in rather bizarre ways). Besides, SOAD is not all that popular, are they?
as for Celine Dion vs. Britney Spears, Celine at least has a good voice. Britney has shitty music and a shitty voice.
and whomever said the Eagles were overrated is just nuts!
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perkele said:
Nirvana = overrated for sure
Oasis = overrated , will be forgotten in a few years
Radiohead = apart from OK computer they didn't deliver much
The Beatles = They made history and remain #1. They just can't be overrated
Coldplay = a lot of hype
U2 = Good music + good marketing
you forgot Metallica
kethnaab said:
They didn't plan to change the music, it's just a thing that happened. It doesn't make them special. They didn't declare they're gonna change the music when they put out their first album. It would have happen with some other band if there never would have been those bands.
But even though those bands changed the music industry, who's to say they changed it for better? Nirvana sure didn't. Beatles did but same music 10 years later would still have been good, but it would have not had the same affect to music industry. To change music industry, it's more about good timing and luck. Right time at the right place in history. Artists are overrated when they're ranked higher than they should based on their actual music and musical talent.
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perkele said:
not necessarily. it all takes a catalyst. Out of the most popular "grunge bands", I would probably rank Nirvana 3rd behind Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains. If you hate grunge, then you probably think that they are overrated, and understandably so.
perkele said:
well, that is so completely subjective as to render such a discussion pointless. I don't like pop music, I like faster music. But I recognize that the Beatles released tons of classic songs. I am not exactly a U2 fan, but they had original music and consistently drove themselves to release something new or interesting, rather than just re-hashing old stuff.
I guess the question now becomes is, "whose ranking system are we using"?
What is Nirvana "ranked"? What is Metallica "ranked"? What is Led Zeppelin "ranked"?
Saintinistic
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The critics never dropped acid then. Like trance/ Hardhouse is for (but not only) X users. Makes sense to me if they hated LZ, cause I did till I was talking to the moon when "Dazed and Confused" came on...then I understood.Mr. dB said:
Cant believe people cant get Led Zeps influence was major. Critics are just individuals, like us, meaning they are as full of shit as us. who the fuck believes critics anyway?
Dirty Sanchez to critics.
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Extra_Strong
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oh ya did I say "KISS"
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U2 was good back in the "Sunday Bloody Sunday" time, but now they suck.
Britney Spears always has so many special effects on her voice in songs because SHE CANT SING, but I don't anyone ever rated her high, so it is hard to argue that she is overrated...lol.
I think REM used to be good, but they sort of suck now.
Ditto for Rod Stewart! He was so cool in the 70's when he sang "Hot Legs" etc. Now he puts out BULLSHIT covers!
Britney Spears always has so many special effects on her voice in songs because SHE CANT SING, but I don't anyone ever rated her high, so it is hard to argue that she is overrated...lol.
I think REM used to be good, but they sort of suck now.
Ditto for Rod Stewart! He was so cool in the 70's when he sang "Hot Legs" etc. Now he puts out BULLSHIT covers!
Saintinistic
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how about the Arctic Monkeys. full of shit hype for that shitty backalley anal band.
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Flah said:
Oh no you didn't!! But really how are they o/r'd? No one talks about them and only people I know then even know who they are know them from "What I got" or "Santaria" which are two of they're worst songs IMO, that hardly show they're "different" side. They're music is like none other. Bands like ReelbigFish, 3311 tried to copy their style, but it didn't work.
As far as Nickelback and Linkin Park, you have to listen to all of their music, not just the radio. Linkin Park live sounds just as good as their cd. They have true talent. Chester has an awesome voice and their DJ is off the hook.
Nickelback - honestly, if this was about 3 months ago, I would agree, they fuckin' suck...way over rated...they still are a little bit, for the amount of good songs they have on thier cds. That new "Photograph" and "Savin' Me" crap is just that, CRAP. You have to actually listen to their cd's and skip through the slow, despressing bullshit to find really good songs. "Follow you home" and "rockstar" on their new cd are fuckin' awesome. "where do I hide" and "never again" were good ones from Silver Side up.
Metallica is way over rated. Their shit all sounds the same, albeit a few songs. Yeah they are def. differnent. When one of their songs comes on the radio, you know it's them, but a lot of their stuff sounds the same. I likemetallica to a point, but definately would say they are over rated because they have no change.
We could sit here an and argue all day long about who we think is over rated because we all have different tastes.
Kiss, Zep. Aerosmith...def. not over rated.
The Rolling Stones need to DIE!
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The rolling stones - The Rolling Stones a/k/a The Pseudo-Kings of Rock & Roll. A group that really should have quit earlier.
Velvet underground
Radiohead - Kid A is great, but I can't see what the Bends / OK Computer hype is about. Hail to the Thief was even a terrible return to their miserable old days.
U2 - Certainly one of the bands that should have quit already.
Joy Division
The Smashing Pumpkins
The White Stripes - Haven't heard a single great tune from them.
Queens of the Stone Age
Pearl Jam
The Doors *I cannot stress this one enough (Most of the Doors' content was made of Jim's ego trip, with some artsy-fartsy added. Not the band that changed the world, you see...
Kiss - Play Detroit Rock City and Rock'n'Roll All Nite once again and I will seriously hurt someone.
Guns n' Roses - Guns N' Roses are often praised for being a 'true rock N' roll band.' Thinking that way one forgets most of their music is actually the typical '80s hard N' heavy crap.
The Beatles - They weren't God! They were just four kids who were both talented and surrounded by the perfect mix of influences.
Monkees
Kid Rock
Puff Daddy
Any and all boy bands
The rolling stones - The Rolling Stones a/k/a The Pseudo-Kings of Rock & Roll. A group that really should have quit earlier.
Velvet underground
Radiohead - Kid A is great, but I can't see what the Bends / OK Computer hype is about. Hail to the Thief was even a terrible return to their miserable old days.
U2 - Certainly one of the bands that should have quit already.
Joy Division
The Smashing Pumpkins
The White Stripes - Haven't heard a single great tune from them.
Queens of the Stone Age
Pearl Jam
The Doors *I cannot stress this one enough (Most of the Doors' content was made of Jim's ego trip, with some artsy-fartsy added. Not the band that changed the world, you see...
Kiss - Play Detroit Rock City and Rock'n'Roll All Nite once again and I will seriously hurt someone.
Guns n' Roses - Guns N' Roses are often praised for being a 'true rock N' roll band.' Thinking that way one forgets most of their music is actually the typical '80s hard N' heavy crap.
The Beatles - They weren't God! They were just four kids who were both talented and surrounded by the perfect mix of influences.
Monkees
Kid Rock
Puff Daddy
Any and all boy bands
dullboy said:
Joy division....What did they do? Tell me, what did they ever do? Isn't it only the death of the singer and one song (Love Will Tear Us Apart)? Plus New Order, but it is a different band.
And for the Vlelvet Underground, AKA The fathers and a mother of the blacklips. Did they really do a great job for the psychedelic hippie culture? Some fine songs like Candy Says, but that is not enough when the band is to blame for a zillion 'gloomy' and 'evil' crap bands and records.
dullboy said:
Every member? Tell me about Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon's successful solo careers? That's half of the original lineup. Or the replacement guy, Don "Where is he now" Felder? There were only two successful solo careers spun off from The Eagles - Henley and Frey - and one guy, Joe Walsh, who had a solo career before joining.
They didn't create a new sound, either. The Byrds, Flying Burrito Brothers, Gram Parsons, those are the people who created the country-rock sound that The Eagles exploited.
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Sounds like a disporpotionate number of british bands are on the list, we don't get the 'hype' about them so much over here so I can only guess this is because of a huge advertising/magazine campaign about the in the states? Bands like Coldplay and Radiohead are obviosuly very popular over here but not exactly 'hyped' so from a british poi9nt of view it's hard to call them overrated. If they're aggresively marketed over the pond them I guess I can see where you're coming from.
PS. the Beatles should never be on a list like this, quite simply the greatest band ever (ooh thats subjetive), spanning so many genres of music it's impossible to rate the best too highly...you simply rate them as the best.
PS. the Beatles should never be on a list like this, quite simply the greatest band ever (ooh thats subjetive), spanning so many genres of music it's impossible to rate the best too highly...you simply rate them as the best.
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Mr. dB said:
you're arguing backwards. lol
henley and frey created the sound that defines the eagles. they're talented songwriters.
maybe you just don't like the eagles. that's ok. you're entilted to your own taste. but it's silly to say that they're overrated just because you don't like them.
dullboy said:
No, I'm disputing your point that "all the members had successful solo careers", or that they pioneered anything.
They jumped the shark at "One Of These Nights". Prior to that they were a very good little country-rock band. But they couldn't compete with Disco, so they took the path of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" and became overtly, calculatedly commercial.
I can't decide if The Doors are overrated or not. Morrison was a horrible singer, who would have been kicked out of any other band. And most of his "poetry" is hopelessly puerile. The musicians all sounded like some sort of Holiday Inn Lounge act, they were so lightweight they didn't even have a bass player. Yet the combination of elements kind of worked. Almost. Sometimes.
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Mr. dB said:
What did you say Morrison was a horrible singer??? Morrison had a style that was entirely his own. I guess you would think Lou Reed was a horrible singer as well? Or Eric Burden? That band sucks without him singing plus he sounds great in almost all his songs.
thewanderer690 said:
Morrison's singing only worked because his songs were written around his vocal limitations. I bet he couldn't have made his way through a Lennon/McCartney composition to save his life. Like I said above, at times The Doors were able to transcend their limitations, but not always. Ever seen any live Doors video? Morrison was dreadful a lot of the time.
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Mr. dB said:
lol thats b/c he was wasted out of his fucking skull! Almost no one can sing as well as Lennon/McCartney except for maybe the beach boys
omg white strips suck lol i was gonna say a diff band but then i was like... omgz forgot bout ws.. damn id be happy to get paid for something i sucked at... the drummer is just depressing (im a drummer
) lol emo/screamo shiz is da way to go... on a second note, needto i think u were referring to marlyne manson? or however the hell u spell his name lol he got some good music but the stuff he talks about is sometimes... lil too morbid for my taste haha also i dont think smashing pumpkins was over rated because they had some really good stuff... maybe a little bit overrated but not comparing to others.. thank god i didnt see anyone mentioning silverchair being overrated cuz omgz id kill u haha they are great
not my fav band but still fuc*in great in my book and an auzzie band lol
) lol emo/screamo shiz is da way to go... on a second note, needto i think u were referring to marlyne manson? or however the hell u spell his name lol he got some good music but the stuff he talks about is sometimes... lil too morbid for my taste haha also i dont think smashing pumpkins was over rated because they had some really good stuff... maybe a little bit overrated but not comparing to others.. thank god i didnt see anyone mentioning silverchair being overrated cuz omgz id kill u haha they are great not my fav band but still fuc*in great in my book and an auzzie band lol
anthrax said:
Rolling Stone site had a poll, like 5-6 years ago, where The Beatles was put against all the other artists in the world. Can't remember how the question went but still Beatles led the poll with about 70% of the votes. No matter how you look at it, is Beatles really that good? I don't think so.
Beatles music is as good as when it was recorded BUT if they would have been over 40yo fat bastards they never would have been that big because of their music. There's so much more to their success than the good music so they are definitely overrated.
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