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Hey guys,

After a long break, getting back in the game! Seems like a lot has changed and I missed out on some OTC stuff that kicked ass! Never liked dealing with sources etc.

A good bro suggested I try a stack of Monsterdrol & P-plex for 4 weeks and is now saying to add some Havoc to get rid of bloat and work as an A.I. I won't be starting for a few weeks - so here are my questions:

Never done all oral cycle, any dosing recommendations and would all 3 be too hard on my liver?? Any ideas for liver protection?

Does Havoc also act as an A.I. or do I need Adex or something??

Thinking about 1st using PP 1-T Tren topical and Havoc, any comments or should I just use the 1 - T Tren alone - Any thoughts on PP topicals??

Thanks for the help!
 
yep great products, best prices, fast free shipping. needtobuildmuscle.com.

if you have a resiliant healthy liver i dont see where you will have a problem there as long as you give it a while before you run the orals again.

lipid stable, milk thistle, liv52 are all good products. also pp trs is a great pct

if you decide you want ai's or serms dont use ag lol. the other sponsors are good. i personally like 4rx.com and eclenbuterol.com
 
:)

Thanks for the input!

I'm gonna bump this up for some more ideas. I already have the Mdrol & P-plex from JAM (hope their stuff is good) waiting to order the Havoc until more feedback.

Is Havoc o.k. or do I need Epistane? (Epistane is 3X price of Havoc)

Does the Havoc have any A.I. capabilities?

Heading over to need2's site to shop around.

Any thought on the PP topicals - have mixed info stacking 1- T Tren with Havoc
would love some feedback.

IT's GOOD TO BE BACK!
 
Havoc and epistane are the same thing.

You don't need to add it. If you do have estrogen issues, use an AI specific compound. Havoc is a methylated anabolic with secondary estrogen inhibting capabilities. It's too much on the liver bro added to p-plex and superdrol.
 
:confused:
Hey guys,

After a long break, getting back in the game! Seems like a lot has changed and I missed out on some OTC stuff that kicked ass! Never liked dealing with sources etc.

A good bro suggested I try a stack of Monsterdrol & P-plex for 4 weeks and is now saying to add some Havoc to get rid of bloat and work as an A.I. I won't be starting for a few weeks - so here are my questions:

Never done all oral cycle, any dosing recommendations and would all 3 be too hard on my liver?? Any ideas for liver protection?

Does Havoc also act as an A.I. or do I need Adex or something??

Thinking about 1st using PP 1-T Tren topical and Havoc, any comments or should I just use the 1 - T Tren alone - Any thoughts on PP topicals??

Thanks for the help!
hell yes its to much on the liver. Sounds to me like this guy has no clue what he is doing to you bro. Monsterdrol is old news. Jam is old news too. Cost more and charges for shipping. My products ship 3 day mail for free and cost less.


Anyway I think you would be fine using a deaselbolan/tfo combo from my store 3 caps ed of each for 4 weeks. You will not get any bloat problems from this cycle. Just good results.

Use a liver sup and a good pct. Right now i am having a sale. For every bottle of products you buy I will give you a free bag of protein bars. So if you got this combo I would give you 2 free bags of bars. That is a 30.00 value and Of course i will also ship them for free too.

Send me a pm for the code for this deal.

Also if you need any more help.
 
hell yes its to much on the liver. Sounds to me like this guy has no clue what he is doing to you bro. Monsterdrol is old news. Jam is old news too. Cost more and charges for shipping. My products ship 3 day mail for free and cost less.


Anyway I think you would be fine using a deaselbolan/tfo combo from my store 3 caps ed of each for 4 weeks. You will not get any bloat problems from this cycle. Just good results.

Use a liver sup and a good pct. Right now i am having a sale. For every bottle of products you buy I will give you a free bag of protein bars. So if you got this combo I would give you 2 free bags of bars. That is a 30.00 value and Of course i will also ship them for free too.

Send me a pm for the code for this deal.

Also if you need any more help.

Needto, from your email I was thinking you had to buy 3 bottles to get the free protein bars...if I bought a bottle of need2sleep would I get a free bag of protein bars as well?
 
Thanks!

And my Liver thanks you too!

I may throw low dose Havoc in with PP 1 -T Tren and A.I. - comments, ideas

Any thoughts on a good A.I. or stick to the basics like liquidex or liquiaromas?

It's like learning biochem & pharmacology for lifting all over again - used to be so simple, use gear and stay away from the OTC stuff because it didn't work.

Thanks again!
 
Thanks!

And my Liver thanks you too!

I may throw low dose Havoc in with PP 1 -T Tren and A.I. - comments, ideas

Any thoughts on a good A.I. or stick to the basics like liquidex or liquiaromas?

It's like learning biochem & pharmacology for lifting all over again - used to be so simple, use gear and stay away from the OTC stuff because it didn't work.

Thanks again!

I'm not familiar with Havoc but if needed it Depends on what research company you're talking about. I wouldn't go with AG guys.
 
Needto, from your email I was thinking you had to buy 3 bottles to get the free protein bars...if I bought a bottle of need2sleep would I get a free bag of protein bars as well?

That was last weeks deal. With last weeks deal I was giving 20% off all orders and if you ordered 3 bottles or more I would give you a free bag of protein bars.

This week if you order deiselbolan,tren-tfo,or katandrol i will give a free bag of bars for every bottle you buy.

No the you will not get a free bag of bars for ordering need2sleep. I like to give back but I don't like to go broke ether :(
 
Oh yeah,

Thanks for the help need2, I will be by to shop later. Currently using PP topicals for a few weeks, got a great deal from a friend (they were free - wife made him get rid of them, complained he was juicing) But your dieselbolan etc is what i am looking for, solid, dry gains - nothing freaky although it would be cool if you had something that upped hardness and vascularity (besides diet) - do you have anything like that to throw in??

I will have questions and need help, this is what I get for taking an extended vacation!!

S
 
Oh yeah,

Thanks for the help need2, I will be by to shop later. Currently using PP topicals for a few weeks, got a great deal from a friend (they were free - wife made him get rid of them, complained he was juicing) But your dieselbolan etc is what i am looking for, solid, dry gains - nothing freaky although it would be cool if you had something that upped hardness and vascularity (besides diet) - do you have anything like that to throw in??

I will have questions and need help, this is what I get for taking an extended vacation!!

S
Katanadrol
 
Oh yeah,

Thanks for the help need2, I will be by to shop later. Currently using PP topicals for a few weeks, got a great deal from a friend (they were free - wife made him get rid of them, complained he was juicing) But your dieselbolan etc is what i am looking for, solid, dry gains - nothing freaky although it would be cool if you had something that upped hardness and vascularity (besides diet) - do you have anything like that to throw in??

I will have questions and need help, this is what I get for taking an extended vacation!!

S
Or you can add tren-tfo to the cycle you are running now. This will add no extra stress to the liver at all. :biggrin::biggrin:
 
Oh yeah,

Thanks for the help need2, I will be by to shop later. Currently using PP topicals for a few weeks, got a great deal from a friend (they were free - wife made him get rid of them, complained he was juicing) But your dieselbolan etc is what i am looking for, solid, dry gains - nothing freaky although it would be cool if you had something that upped hardness and vascularity (besides diet) - do you have anything like that to throw in??

I will have questions and need help, this is what I get for taking an extended vacation!!

S

I believe Beastdrol and Dieselbolan harden you up. I've been wanting to try diesel but can't cause I've been running Dbol, but Dieselbolan is better on your liver than beastdrol I believe. Damnit maybe someday I'll get to try the Diesel!
 
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