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Tom Daschle Caught LYING

I can't say that I particularly care for George W.

But I can say this: I thank my big ass every day that he and his men were running this country on 9-11 and not Gore.

And yes, Reagan helped created a huge national debt. You know what? I'd rather be in debt than still involved in the goddamn Cold War. Reagan toppled the biggest threat to our freedom this country had ever faced. 9-11 may eventually prove to be the start of bigger threat than a superpower Soviet Union was, but if we can continue to clean house in the middle east, we will have paid a small price to rid the world of this generations "evil empire."
 
actually the 80's were the most prosperous of years. liberals call it the decade of greed but in reality it was the decade of progress. even the poor were wealthier than they had been the previous decade which was the carter admin i do believe.
 
NY Muscle said:


AHH YES AVOID THE FACTS.... TYPICAL thats like a 2nd grade arguement when the kid whos wrong teases the other kid during the arguement about something way off, to direct attention away from the original arguement.

i thought the original arguement was about tom daschle, not bush.

im not going to argue..ill say i told u so in 4 yrs.

arguing is pointless ....you like the moron bush i dont, nothing is solved by arguing when one wont admit the being wrong or change views...thats poilitics for you...

ok, you dont like bush, with that aside now present some kind of arguement that he has done a bad job. not based on your emotions.



:rolleyes:
 
NY Muscle said:
certian secrets need to be KEPT SECRET...this litte incident wont take away from the fact that Bush is the WORST president next to regean i think we will have ever had....if it wasnt for 9/11 bush would still be playing golf... the guy is a moron and he didnt even techincally win the election, but lets no go there alloevr again..

Thanks for cutting to the chase and laying your immense ignorance on the table for the rest of us to see.

To say that Ronald Reagan is the worst President this country has had--well, its just proposterouse.

And your statements about Clinton---YOu further prove your lack of political savy. He did more damage to America than any other in recent history.

And about the economy---fixing an economy in recession is a heavy task, especially during war. This does not happen over night. much like Clinton taking credit for the legislation of the repubs before him.

The media has got ya---hook, line, and sinker.---but there is still hope.
 
This is like watching spider monkeys throw shit back and forth at each other. LOL!!!
 
And on a side note if Daschle was LYING...(This makes me laugh, it's like saying you were caught breathing!)...

Anyway..

Explain this !

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A small group of congressional leaders was called to the White House for a briefing Tuesday on the Bush administration's creation of a bunker government as a fail-safe measure in the event of a catastrophic terrorist event in Washington.

Congressional sources said Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota; Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi; and House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Illinois, met with White House Chief of Staff Andy Card and President Bush's legislative liaison Nick Calio.

The meeting was intended to address a firestorm brewing between the White House and Congress over the administration's failure to inform key lawmakers about the existence of a contingency government.

Yet even as the meeting was underway, Rep. Richard Gephardt -- the top Democrat in the House of Representatives -- was home in Missouri, fuming that he had not been invited in the first place.

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer disputed claims that Daschle, the other top Democrat on the Hill -- or at least his staff -- was not briefed prior to Tuesday's meeting.

"Senator Daschle was here at the White House earlier today where White House aides and others reiterated to the senator information that had previously been provided to people who work for him," Fleischer said.

"The administration has consulted with the Congress, has informed the Congress about its programs that have been in place, as you know, since the Cold War, to have continuity of government and continuity of operations," he said.

But Daschle told reporters that Fleischer was wrong, and that he had not been informed before Tuesday morning. "That was a misstatement and I hope it is corrected," said the Senate majority leader.

Lott said he was not informed in advance either but felt it was not necessary to alert him because he is not in the direct line of succession to the presidency.

"The key people, the people in line of succession were briefed or offered a briefing in whole or in part. Certain key staff people were made aware of it, and certain key committee members were made aware of it," said Lott.

But Sen. Robert Byrd, President Pro Tempore and fourth in line to be president, maintains through his spokesman he was never told about the standby government, learning of it through newspaper accounts.

Republicans dispute this, insisting Byrd was told.

On the question of who in Congress needs to know about contingency plans for government, Daschle disagreed with Lott, saying senior lawmakers must be kept in the loop.

"I believe that the leadership in the Senate needs to know what contingency plans there are in case of an emergency. I don't think that is too much to ask. I feel as a result of the briefing I was given today, I now know. I will leave it at that," said Daschle.

Daschle and Fleischer agreed on one point -- contingency government is a more accurate and appropriate term than "shadow government."

The majority leader toned down his complaint about the lack of congressional notification following Tuesday's White House meeting.

He told reporters meeting participants agreed there was too much public debate about an issue of national security where secrecy is essential.

In its effort to appease members of Congress who've complained about being kept "out of the loop," the White House may have ruffled more feathers.

A spokesman for Gephardt -- like Daschle a potential 2004 Democratic candidate for president -- said although the congressman was out of town he was never invited to the White House meeting.

Fleischer said the invitation was "a scheduling matter" and refused to elaborate.

One senior Democratic aide said Gephardt's office was "bewildered" by the snub. Asked if it could be explained because Gephardt is not in the line of presidential succession, the aide said "neither is Lott. And neither is Daschle for that matter. It's kind of hard to make that argument when it doesn't apply to two of the three people in the room."

Gephardt's spokesman said Gephardt has never been briefed about the administration's decision to put in place the bunker government of top-level employees in secure locations outside Washington.

"It's unfortunate because he would be interested to know about the White House thinking about the shadow government. What he's said consistently is for us to succeed we need to coordinate and collaborate. If the meeting was to talk about that, it's certainly something the house Democrats would like to be represented in."

There's a separate post-Sept. 11 contingency plan for the top leadership of Congress, but the details are veiled in just as much secrecy as the plan for the executive branch.

On Sunday, Daschle suggested it would be necessary to include the congressional and judicial branches in any contingency government.

He said after his briefing Tuesday morning he simply wants better coordination between the three branches on their plans.


*Note I really think this is all total bullshit. But fun total bullshit.
 
NY Muscle said:




will bush ever do 1/10 of the good CLINTON has done for the country??? NEVER

will bush ruin what CLINTON did and put us into a deficit? OF COURSE hes a republican..

in 4 yrs ill say i told u say...anyone can specualte good or bad now...but 4 yrs...i told u so....

Name the good Clinton has done. Let's see he sold nuclear secrets to China, had more than ample opportunity to get rid of Bin Laden and did nothing. I could care less about the Monica incident but he shouldn't have lied about it. The president isn't responsible for how the econmy is doing but he gets the credit good or bad. Plus the economy was doing well during the clinton period because of the Republican run congress.
 
Name the good Clinton has done. Let's see he sold nuclear secrets to China, had more than ample opportunity to get rid of Bin Laden and did nothing. I could care less about the Monica incident but he shouldn't have lied about it. The president isn't responsible for how the econmy is doing but he gets the credit good or bad. Plus the economy was doing well during the clinton period because of the Republican run congress.

And yes, Reagan helped created a huge national debt. You know what? I'd rather be in debt than still involved in the goddamn Cold War. Reagan toppled the biggest threat to our freedom this country had ever faced. 9-11 may eventually prove to be the start of bigger threat than a superpower Soviet Union was, but if we can continue to clean house in the middle east, we will have paid a small price to rid the world of this generations "evil empire."

Two examples of the myriad assertions people post here without a shred of evidence for it. That goes for both sides. This is stupid.:rolleyes:
 
Train Harder said:


Name the good Clinton has done. Let's see he sold nuclear secrets to China, had more than ample opportunity to get rid of Bin Laden and did nothing. I could care less about the Monica incident but he shouldn't have lied about it. The president isn't responsible for how the econmy is doing but he gets the credit good or bad. Plus the economy was doing well during the clinton period because of the Republican run congress.

Every good thing i bring up you republicans will denounce and bring up bad things..... every godo thing you republicans bring up the democrats will denounce and bring up bad things as well.

NO one can win this arguement with so many of you narrow minded people...i told you ARGUING i spointless, if you cant see that... then god help you.

So hows the missles and guns the rupublican presidency helped IRAN get ....and you bring up bin laden LOL funny


enough said
 
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