todays pin was the most painful/deca&test question for the experts

[koin]

now I've had some shitty pins but god damn!

I think I fired a little too low on the "glute" attempt, might have missed it entirely hahaha. definitely had some blood, no vein or anything but jesus that hurt bad. something tells me the next 4 days are going to suck!

on a brighter note, 5 weeks into deca+test e (600 mg deca, 1000mg test weekly) and started feeling it around 1 week ago.

I doubled the dosage after 3 full weeks, not sure if that was the best call but it's a decision I made so I will live with it. I had done 300 deca 500 test e for the first 3 weeks.

I upped my HCG to about 1000iu/week, do you guys think this is adequate to avoid gyno? are there any other precautions I should be taking right now?

 

[C0LUMB0]

Hold the phone bro... 1 gram of test + 600mg deca and you are asking if hcg can help you prevent gyno .
why did you double your dose ?

Am almost afraid to ask, but how many cycles have you done previously ?

 

[koin]

I've never done deca but I wanted better results so I upped the dosage. and yes I've cycled 4 other times in the past 2 years. sustaplex/test

if you could assist me rather than giving me a hard time it would make my life easier. are you suggesting that I bring my deca dose back down or should I continue as is? no side effects other than decent irritability. can you recommend something else I should be taking in conjunction with the pregnyl?

 

[C0LUMB0]

I've never done deca but I wanted better results so I upped the dosage. and yes I've cycled 4 other times in the past 2 years. sustaplex/test

if you could assist me rather than giving me a hard time it would make my life easier. are you suggesting that I bring my deca dose back down or should I continue as is? no side effects other than decent irritability. can you recommend something else I should be taking in conjunction with the pregnyl?

Bro i'm not trying to bust your balls but you are a 23year old guy that weigh's approx. 165 lbs and you are using 1600mg of gear ?

Some of your previous posts suggest you have not done much research on any of this .
For your own health and well-being you should knock this cycle on the head or at the very least drop back to 500mg of test only.

You havent mentioned an AI at the ready to deal with progestin/prolactin sides ? if you dont have that covered then stop the deca.

IMO you should Post up your full stats ,what your training looks like and also diet...and you will get the advice you need.

 

[koin]

I'm aware that I'm going hard, but I don't want to stop the deca. I'll drop the dose if that's in my best interests but test alone didn't do me justice in the past so I want to give this a real shot.

I'm hitting the gym 4-5 days a week, only time I take off is when I'm sore. training chest/tris twice a week, back and bi's twice a week, legs once a week. really don't run anymore, barely doing any cardio right now. I sleep 7-8 hours at night. sluggish lately though, wondering if it's because of the dosage.

my diet is decent, eat alot of red meat, alot of fish, I'm trying to stay up in the 5-6000 calorie range. Alot of fruit/vegetables. I rarely drink alcohol, drink lots of water, and I take multi vitamin daily, fish oil, and a fiber supplement.

I didn't mention an AI for the sides because I don't have anything. could you tell me what I should be looking at? I'm willing to lower to dosage of the deca and test back to what I had it at originally...if what I'm doing is dangerous I don't want to hurt myself.

 

[C0LUMB0]

If you are dead set on running the deca then get some dostinex or you could use forma stanzol from NTBM - 10 pumps AM and PM.
1-12 test @ 500mg
1-10 deca @ 300mg
1-12 hcg 500iu twice a week

Read this stickie : http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/very-best-pct-2010-right-here-712121.html

Stay safe bro and Make sure you have all this in check BEFORE you start any other cycles.
Do plenty of reading - you can never do too much research .

 

[Zyglamail]

I upped my HCG to about 1000iu/week, do you guys think this is adequate to avoid gyno? are there any other precautions I should be taking right now?

If anything you should have doubled the dose for first two weeks then cut back, not the other way around.

As for HCG, time to go back to school. HCG is use to trigger the testes into producing test, it has nothing to do with gyno.

You really shouldnt be using the doses you are haphazardly, your asking for trouble.

 

[koin]

If you are dead set on running the deca then get some dostinex or you could use forma stanzol from NTBM - 10 pumps AM and PM.
1-12 test @ 500mg
1-10 deca @ 300mg
1-12 hcg 500iu twice a week

Read this stickie : http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/very-best-pct-2010-right-here-712121.html

Stay safe bro and Make sure you have all this in check BEFORE you start any other cycles.
Do plenty of reading - you can never do too much research .

okay I have oral clomid, alot of it, I'll go with that

 

[OSUBEAVERS]

HCG for gyno wtf ...He has to have his stuff mixed up...

 

[zedhed]

This really kind of makes me sad.
I am glad that you posted up tho Koin.
I hope you take the advice given.
Also I hope you will educate yourself. Everthing you need is here free for all of us to use.
I hope the best for you bro.
Good luck...