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Today I was discriminated against.

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primetime21 said:


Just because there aren't a proportional amount of blacks in the senate does NOT mean that there is ANY institutional discrimination at play. Perhaps, less blacks want to run for senate. Or perhaps those that do, go up against whites in districts that have 70 percent whites and 30 percent blacks? Maybe its because some blacks are discouraged by the american system and therefore dont want to partake in it.

The persons that run for the Senate are chosen by their respective political party. That is where the real discrimination takes place. Perhaps you think that black people are less ambitious than whites. Perhaps you are mistaken.

I am sure i could have gone to Harvard Law if i were black, but thats life.

You could have went to Harvard Law if you were smarter, worked harder, or had richer parents. Don't blame your failure on black scholarships.
 
While in the past political parties did select the candidates, the evolution of modern campaigns gives evidence to the fact that modern campaigns are candidate-oriented and have significantly diminished the power and influence of political parties. Please don't get me wrong, parties still play a HUGE roll in a successful campaign, mainly through monetary donations and opposition research. But, the demise of the political parties since the Golden Age of politics has significantly increased the opportunity for minorities (and everyone else, for that matter) to participate in the political process, in whatever manner they choose.

And that is basically the definition of a pluralist democracy, that we have the opportunity to participate.

For example, three years ago, during the last off-year election, a Hispanic candidate ran for a state position. He took a leave of absence from his teaching position at an inner-city school to run his campaign, which was self-financed. He drove from town to town to gain support, and received no help from the Democratic party. Not only did he win the primary and receive their nomination, but came withing a few points of winning the office. I attended what was supposed to be his election party, and the support for him was phenominal. Too bad he didn't win.
 
spentagn said:
While in the past political parties did select the candidates, the evolution of modern campaigns gives evidence to the fact that modern campaigns are candidate-oriented and have significantly diminished the power and influence of political parties. Please don't get me wrong, parties still play a HUGE roll in a successful campaign, mainly through monetary donations and opposition research. But, the demise of the political parties since the Golden Age of politics has significantly increased the opportunity for minorities (and everyone else, for that matter) to participate in the political process, in whatever manner they choose.

And that is basically the definition of a pluralist democracy, that we have the opportunity to participate.

You are correct when you say that the opportunities for minorities are greater now than ever before and you are also correct about the more candidate-oriented campaigns, but that still does not take away from the fact that candidates that are well-funded by the party have an enormous advantage over their opponents. George W. Bush is a prime example of money being used to the candidate's advantage when other qualities (to put it lightly) were missing.
 
2Thick said:


If you are poor then you qualify for financial aid. If you are smart then you qualify for scholarships.

What else do you want?
If scholarships were based on just intelligence, than this whole thread would be non existant. However, at Seton Hall, scholarships are not based on academics, but on race.(At least this particular scholarship)
 
VicTusDeuS said:

If scholarships were based on just intelligence, than this whole thread would be non existant. However, at Seton Hall, scholarships are not based on academics, but on race.(At least this particular scholarship)

This scholarship is in place because certain groups have been purposely excluded from scholarships in the past. An exclusivity clause is necessary in order to guarantee somewhat equal access to an affordable education.
 
2Thick said:


This scholarship is in place because certain groups have been purposely excluded from scholarships in the past. An exclusivity clause is necessary in order to guarantee somewhat equal access to an affordable education.

I agree, but this is not 1950 anymore, and I disagree that the best solution to past discrimination is to reverse the discrimination and cause MORE unequality.
 
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