To the Mods - please respond

[Juice Authority]

I can certainly understand why Paperbolix was banned from this site and why some of you would suggest that people stay away from him. That's not the issue. These threads labeling him a scammer have been allowed to exist here and have unjustly stirred up a lot of negative attention on other boards, which refects poorly on EF for allowing this to go on. I'm very surpised that this type of false labeling has been permitted on such a mature site.

A thread was recently brought back to life here where another member (sh4dowf4lcon) claimed to have permission from "multiple" Mods to post Paperbolix's email addy and label him a scammer. I'm sorry but this is complete unfounded bullshit. Here's what another senior Vet of this site had to say on another board about this.

"I would like to see evidence that PB is a scammer. What i can say is that i know RC personnally and have met him in real life. He has been around a long time and is a good bro with good servioce levels. If it were not for him Paper would not have been as popular or known about as it is. For this reason he knows many Mods and Vets who are loyal to him for good reason

Now to quash any rumours PB uses the SAME supply chain as RC for paper. The manufacturer decided there was enough scope for business with two main distibutors and one from UK to service the market. These are RC, PB and Oxy123.

PB being inexperienced on the boards did go about business the wrong way but took a step back and bided his time. He is now to the best of my knowledge offering a good service level but will always be competing against the famous RC but healthy competition is good IMHO for all suppliers to the customers benefit.

Until i see evidence that i can check i say all three of the above are good. What is annoying looking at that post on Elite is that names are mentioned and the Mods are letting it go without evidence or comment."

 

[Mavy]

Bump! I am curious to know which two mods have said this as well?

 

[Mythicalbeing]

JA, I two have used two of the above, including the one labeled. While I hate to say it, PB's shipping practices, which I believe are the root of this evil do leave something to be desired, BUT he has made right by me, for what it's worth if anything. Bump! As well.

 

[Juice Authority]

JA, I two have used two of the above, including the one labeled. While I hate to say it, PB's shipping practices, which I believe are the root of this evil do leave something to be desired, BUT he has made right by me, for what it's worth if anything. Bump! As well.

He stated why he chooses to break up the shipment into multiple envelopes. Whether people agree with his shipping practices or not is besides the point.

sh4dowf4lcon indicated several times that he had the backing from multiple Mods here to post PB's email addy and label him a scammer yet none of the Mods he mentioned had anything to say about the issue at hand. It is a fact the several Mods here are openly posted as references on Redi Cat's web site. Perhaps that has something to do with why they allowed these threads to be posted without any evidence that PB is a scammer.

 

[KINGKONG69]

bump

 

[centipede]

As far as PBs shipping practices, anyone who buys can have the letter shipped ems and gets there in as little as 3-4days; it's free if your buying 500sq or more and only $10 extra if your buying less, even though that service costs him more like $16, if you select that option you get a tracking number that you can track at the postal web-site usps.com or whatever country your in, the only drawback is that you have to sign for it. PB says that all the letters sent this way have arrived w/o incident. But ofcourse many American people as a general rule will not sign for steroids so in those cases he sends normal mail in smaller envelopes-or just tell him how you want it sent, if you want it in one envelope; because a small more flexible envelope is less likley to to be scutinized than a larger one which is less bendable. I don't understand how putting 2 sheets back to back would be a better method of sending but whatever. In the case of sh4dowf4lcon post a SINGLE buyer says that 1 envelope failed to arrive after 3 or 4 weeks, during the holiday season when mail often takes that long to arrive. PB has already told that buyer that he'll replace that one if not arrived by 1st week Jan. just because such a stink has been made about it; BUT I think any international source has to have a policy when it comes to that sort of problem, they can't just re-ship everytime someone says it didn't get there, it's just a normal letter; otherwise reverse-scammers will flock to that source; just about every int. source I know will not do anything for a customer if he can't produce a seizure notice; and we all no that customs will not always send one, or a normal letter or package may get lost in the mail, whatever it's not a perfect game-your not buying a book from Amazon.com.
Anyway I don't think pbs shipping practices are so bad just because he tries to be extra-safe, lets not forget that he has sent hundreds of these normal letters w/o incident and the vast majority of his orders go through w/o any problems; and he answers his emails everyday and does everything reasonably possible to work out any problems that arise; sh4dowf4lcon post that he's a scammer is the low point of this board and he obviously has an agenda; that post was initially taken off and should have been left off, it should be deleted now.

 

[bicepts101]

As far as PBs shipping practices, anyone who buys can have the letter shipped ems and gets there in as little as 3-4days; it's free if your buying 500sq or more and only $10 extra if your buying less, even though that service costs him more like $16, if you select that option you get a tracking number that you can track at the postal web-site usps.com or whatever country your in, the only drawback is that you have to sign for it. PB says that all the letters sent this way have arrived w/o incident. But ofcourse many American people as a general rule will not sign for steroids so in those cases he sends normal mail in smaller envelopes-or just tell him how you want it sent, if you want it in one envelope; because a small more flexible envelope is less likley to to be scutinized than a larger one which is less bendable. I don't understand how putting 2 sheets back to back would be a better method of sending but whatever. In the case of sh4dowf4lcon post a SINGLE buyer says that 1 envelope failed to arrive after 3 or 4 weeks, during the holiday season when mail often takes that long to arrive. PB has already told that buyer that he'll replace that one if not arrived by 1st week Jan. just because such a stink has been made about it; BUT I think any international source has to have a policy when it comes to that sort of problem, they can't just re-ship everytime someone says it didn't get there, it's just a normal letter; otherwise reverse-scammers will flock to that source; just about every int. source I know will not do anything for a customer if he can't produce a seizure notice; and we all no that customs will not always send one, or a normal letter or package may get lost in the mail, whatever it's not a perfect game-your not buying a book from Amazon.com.
Anyway I don't think pbs shipping practices are so bad just because he tries to be extra-safe, lets not forget that he has sent hundreds of these normal letters w/o incident and the vast majority of his orders go through w/o any problems; and he answers his emails everyday and does everything reasonably possible to work out any problems that arise; sh4dowf4lcon post that he's a scammer is the low point of this board and he obviously has an agenda; that post was initially taken off and should have been left off, it should be deleted now.

i have never delt with PB, but i have been reading the posts regarding him as a scammer.

i think this should answer all of shadows questions and uncertainties.

i dont know why no mod are posting on these threads. Probly cause there is really only 2 accual mods on the anabolic forum. the rest are there other names. this board is just getting fishyer and fishyer. i dont know

 

[Fonz]

He stated why he chooses to break up the shipment into multiple envelopes. Whether people agree with his shipping practices or not is besides the point.

sh4dowf4lcon indicated several times that he had the backing from multiple Mods here to post PB's email addy and label him a scammer yet none of the Mods he mentioned had anything to say about the issue at hand. It is a fact the several Mods here are openly posted as references on Redi Cat's web site. Perhaps that has something to do with why they allowed these threads to be posted without any evidence that PB is a scammer.

I have offered to test it for him. Its up to him now.

Fonz

 

[Mythicalbeing]

bicepts101, explain the fishiness going on...I'm not seeing what you are I guess, but most if not all the mods have helped me at one time or another.....only thing I've noticed as of late is some will not do the source checks.

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Being biased here....but on Kats site I only found c acouple of Mods listed as a reference. Not to say people don't use his stuff exclusively.
1. I just want to be sure the right steps were taken.
2. Don't want to see a scammer labeled if it's not just.
3. I don't want to see Bros against Bros.
4. Do understand that PB marketing stragies were unjust.


Can't we all just get along?