To the Mods - please respond

[Cotton's Parrot]

As far as PBs shipping practices, anyone who buys can have the letter shipped ems and gets there in as little as 3-4days; it's free if your buying 500sq or more and only $10 extra if your buying less, even though that service costs him more like $16, if you select that option you get a tracking number that you can track at the postal web-site usps.com or whatever country your in, the only drawback is that you have to sign for it. PB says that all the letters sent this way have arrived w/o incident. But ofcourse many American people as a general rule will not sign for steroids so in those cases he sends normal mail in smaller envelopes-or just tell him how you want it sent, if you want it in one envelope; because a small more flexible envelope is less likley to to be scutinized than a larger one which is less bendable. I don't understand how putting 2 sheets back to back would be a better method of sending but whatever. In the case of sh4dowf4lcon post a SINGLE buyer says that 1 envelope failed to arrive after 3 or 4 weeks, during the holiday season when mail often takes that long to arrive. PB has already told that buyer that he'll replace that one if not arrived by 1st week Jan. just because such a stink has been made about it; BUT I think any international source has to have a policy when it comes to that sort of problem, they can't just re-ship everytime someone says it didn't get there, it's just a normal letter; otherwise reverse-scammers will flock to that source; just about every int. source I know will not do anything for a customer if he can't produce a seizure notice; and we all no that customs will not always send one, or a normal letter or package may get lost in the mail, whatever it's not a perfect game-your not buying a book from Amazon.com.
Anyway I don't think pbs shipping practices are so bad just because he tries to be extra-safe, lets not forget that he has sent hundreds of these normal letters w/o incident and the vast majority of his orders go through w/o any problems; and he answers his emails everyday and does everything reasonably possible to work out any problems that arise; sh4dowf4lcon post that he's a scammer is the low point of this board and he obviously has an agenda; that post was initially taken off and should have been left off, it should be deleted now.

Dude, its SO fucking clear that you are PB. All of your posts are about him and you know so much. Give it a rest.

To the rest of you, its pretty damn stupid to be talking in the open the way you are about shit. Your talking about shipping, where people are located and shit. I can tell you right now, even if these people are overseas you can still get them nailed. Dumb ass shit. Oh and JA, I don't know you but the fact that you say you have met RC is not believable at all, I have to call some bullshit on that.

 

[bicepts101]

Dude, its SO fucking clear that you are PB. All of your posts are about him and you know so much. Give it a rest.

To the rest of you, its pretty damn stupid to be talking in the open the way you are about shit. Your talking about shipping, where people are located and shit. I can tell you right now, even if these people are overseas you can still get them nailed. Dumb ass shit. Oh and JA, I don't know you but the fact that you say you have met RC is not believable at all, I have to call some bullshit on that.

gee, and i wounder who you are?

 

[bicepts101]

bicepts101, explain the fishiness going on...I'm not seeing what you are I guess, but most if not all the mods have helped me at one time or another.....only thing I've noticed as of late is some will not do the source checks.

there are 12 people moderating this forum, correct? well 5 of those 12 post and its usually 4, but we'll say 5. 1 only posts when his products are talked about. another one only posts on the chat forum. so what about the other 7. what im trying to say is, how many of those mods post as other people? even if none of them post as other people, why not elect some other mods?

not that those people shouldnt have lives, but those indivduals are supposed to put some time into their forum. just a few thoughts

 

[DocHoliday]

Bump! I am curious to know which two mods have said this as well?

Gee, Mavy for someone who stated they did not want to "Be dragged In" you seem to want to keep shit going.

JA
Dont you think if the mods were going to speak out they would have before they locked the other thread? I doubt if they decide to answer your BS on this thread either. Run a source check on several boards and you will get alot of negative feed back on PB. Sure, some say good to go, but alot of slow ship, lost orders, and stay away. I know because I emailed 20 various mods from 3 different boards over the past several days. :mixed reviews:

Is talking shit @ sh4dowf4lcon going to change PB reputation?Sh4dowf4lcon helped make a complaint public, and he made public the reputation PB has with the Mods at EF (which is where you are) this is not VIP, he is not an approved source with good reviews here.

On one thread you are asking the therad be locked and deleted then you open a new thread to talk about it some more.

According to the Mods on this and other popular boards he is considered a "stay away". I ran a source check over the last several days and I got mixed reviews. Some say good, some say stay away...based on my own source checks I would stay away.

The mods are not going to get in this in this public forum. let it go or go away.

 

[DocHoliday]

I have offered to test it for him. Its up to him now.

Fonz

bump, test some squares already in
circulation not fresh ones he is making just for you to test hollar @ goldprospector and test some of his Fonz

 

[Juice Authority]

I have offered to test it for him. Its up to him now.

Fonz

I know you did and he really needs to go through with it at this point to shut everyone up if nothing else.

 

[Juice Authority]

Dude, its SO fucking clear that you are PB. All of your posts are about him and you know so much. Give it a rest.

To the rest of you, its pretty damn stupid to be talking in the open the way you are about shit. Your talking about shipping, where people are located and shit. I can tell you right now, even if these people are overseas you can still get them nailed. Dumb ass shit. Oh and JA, I don't know you but the fact that you say you have met RC is not believable at all, I have to call some bullshit on that.

You fucking moron! Go re-read my post you illiterate idiot and stop posting bullshit on my thread. I never said I personally met RC (English 101). I was quoting another senior member of this site - Wrongun. You obviously missed that part. Get lost fool.

 

[Juice Authority]

Gee, Mavy for someone who stated they did not want to "Be dragged In" you seem to want to keep shit going.

JA
Dont you think if the mods were going to speak out they would have before they locked the other thread? I doubt if they decide to answer your BS on this thread either. Run a source check on several boards and you will get alot of negative feed back on PB. Sure, some say good to go, but alot of slow ship, lost orders, and stay away. I know because I emailed 20 various mods from 3 different boards over the past several days. :mixed reviews:

Is talking shit @ sh4dowf4lcon going to change PB reputation?Sh4dowf4lcon helped make a complaint public, and he made public the reputation PB has with the Mods at EF (which is where you are) this is not VIP, he is not an approved source with good reviews here.

On one thread you are asking the therad be locked and deleted then you open a new thread to talk about it some more.

According to the Mods on this and other popular boards he is considered a "stay away". I ran a source check over the last several days and I got mixed reviews. Some say good, some say stay away...based on my own source checks I would stay away.

The mods are not going to get in this in this public forum. let it go or go away.

The reason I posted this thread was to clear a guy's name that was wrongfully labeled a scammer. Are you that stupid that you can't see that or are you just plain slow? I didn't post his email addy or say how one would go about contacting him. I laid out the "facts" as I know them, which is the exact opposite of what has taken place so far. I didn't bring this thread back to life either. One of the Mods obviously did. Now shut up unless you have something factual to contribute.

 

[Wrongun]

Oh and JA, I don't know you but the fact that you say you have met RC is not believable at all, I have to call some bullshit on that.

He did not say he had but i have so not sure what your problem is (if you want to call bull shit then please ask him first to save your embaressment).

To conclude yet another Elite Drama:

The original problem as i understand it is that 100 squares went missing. They may have been seized, lost, eat by the dog who knows! the supplier has said he will resend the 100 (which IMHO is a show of good faith as many will only resend on production of seizure notice or at cost so again not sure what the problem is).

As for RC he is a real gentlemen and excellent businessman that is in my mind without question. What i can also say is he would not partake in the ''rubbishing'' of a competitor to his own gain. This is for two reasons:

1) he is bigger than that
2) he has no need as his business ethics are sound and stable

IMHO misplaced loyalties do however start dramas such as these. Now if anyone can show me evidence this is with the knowledge of RC then my opinion of the man will change but i like to think i am not a bad judge of character.

In the beginning PB went about business in a very naieve way for which he was slated / ridiculed and banned. He has taken a step back and is trying to offer a good service in the right way. He has a mountain to climb in terms of the market he is attacking due to the already excellent service being provided by RC. There is IMHO enough room for two that will bring healthy competition to the benefit of the customer WHICH IS YOU.

Now if PB is not handling business as he should then lets see some evidence as what i have seen so far (and i may be wrong) is that 100 squares are lost and he will resend so wtf is the problem? if there is some real evidence to suggest different then post.

As for the others in this thread stating source checks etc then try asking anyone that has actually used either service and not people who judge from posts like this.

If his product is called into question then you do the same with RC's but if free tests are available from someone as respected as Fonz then i can only advise any supplier copnfident of their product, take him up on the offer as that is the best marketing available.

All i see is a lot of uninformed comments on this thread and all you have managed to do is name names and methods which has not helped customers or suppliers. I am in the UK and have no need of this type of product so on a personal level it does not concern me but considering most of you are in the USA if i were you i would do everything possible to protect these people NOT openly discuss such issues.

I am guilty of stating the above as well but after trying to stay out of it thought it only right i put the record straight for all concerned before we get yet another drama which is way off track

Wrongun!

 

[The Terminator]

there are 12 people moderating this forum, correct? well 5 of those 12 post and its usually 4, but we'll say 5. 1 only posts when his products are talked about. another one only posts on the chat forum. so what about the other 7. what im trying to say is, how many of those mods post as other people? even if none of them post as other people, why not elect some other mods?

not that those people shouldnt have lives, but those indivduals are supposed to put some time into their forum. just a few thoughts

This imo is where Elite has fallen flat on its face...There is noone here to take care of this site (hence alot of misinformed and poorly managed areas )
It could certainly use an overhaul of the staff (its an out with the old and in with the new game....Some changes have to made here to bring this site back to the level it once was...)