Titan Training

[The_Eviscerator]

Well, I have finished my first week of Leo Costa's Titan Training. All I can say HOLY MOTHERFUCKER!!! I don't know how I got through the muscle rounds but I did. If this doesn't make me grow I don't know what will....(except maybe 50 mg of D-bol per day and a gram of test a week...but I digress.)

Anyway, has anyone else tried the Titan training system? I would like to hear your results and your thoughts.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

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[The_Eviscerator]

WTF? no has tried this yet?

 

[The German]

I´m on the seventh week. Only one week to go, then I switch for the last 3 weeks to a 3 day program.
Now I´m 118 Kg, started with 114 Kg.
Witch exercises do you use ?

 

[Parabellum]

Post a link.

 

[ckeller14]

hey The_Eviscerator or The German, any chance you could post this workout on here?

 

[Drigo]

Hey,

I did the Big Beyond Belief Leo Costa Training.
I thought it was pretty good. I gained about 5lbs of muscle. I was thinking of getting the titan training.(they keep sending me brochures) But I paid 50 bucks for BBB and it was a little 1/2 inch soft cover book!!

So I am hesitant.

Let us know how it works out for you.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I made a spread sheet to track my progress on the routine. If any of you guys want a copy, just e-mail me.

As far as the exercises, I try to use level 7 or 8 NMA (the German will know what I am talking about). Although, this was pretty difficult on some of the days. For instance, I started my muscle rounds with bent over rows with 245 pounds, but after two sets I was spent, so I switched to a seated pull-down (which is lower NMA). I did the same with bench, I started with Bench press at 245 and had to switch to Hammer Strength Bench Press for the last two muscle rounds.

German, a 4 kilogram weight gain is pretty awesome, especially if you are training naturally. I honestly can't imagine not gaining muscle on this work-out. It feels to me that the routine literally forces you to grow. I am only done with my first week, so I will keep you posted.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Here is an attempt to post it:

 

[The_Eviscerator]

OOPS! The file is too large to post. Never mind.

 

[Jon De]

Haven't tried it yet, but here's a link to their site for anyone who's interested.

http://otsdirect.com/titan/manual.htm

 

[MonStar1023]

Whatsup? Is Titan Training similar to Serious Growth because I know that someone on here mentioned Big Beyond Belief and thats supposed to be very similar to the Serious Growth workouts. Well I am training using Serious Growth and supposedly that program is GREAT. Its been good so far I am only through the second week right now and everything seems to be working well.

I am doing Variant II of the Serious Growth series and I was wondering if any of you have tried that out?

 

[doppelganger]

my 2 cents

the only thing i don't like about the Titan Training Program is that you don't get enough direct arm work. while everything else on me got big, my arms actually shrank. i wish the guys at OTS would have come up with alternative routines the way they did in Big Beyond Belief: 4x's week, 6x's week, 12x's week. did everybody else here follow the program to the letter?

and frankly, i think it really was a repackaging decision when they decided to construct a four day only program. because why would they change their stance on 45 minute workouts to 55 minute workouts? the only way they could devise 4 day program was to increase to workout length itself.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

There seems to be more than enough arm work in my opinion, but I really don't think you need to specialize arms if you are doing good compound movements like Bent Over Rows, Pull Ups, Bench etc...

 

[nugg]

please

someone please post this workout.....

 

[nugg]

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anyone

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[The_Eviscerator]

All exercises are generalized. You can use whatever exercises you wish:


DAY 1
Squats (2min) 8 6 5 4 3
Stiff Leg Deads (1min) 10 8 6 5 4
Standing Calf (1min) 10 8 6 5 4

DB Chest Press (1min) SuperSets 3sets/12-15
DB Bent Over Row
Shoulder Fly (1min rest) SS 4 sets/12-15
Abs
DB Curl (1min) SuperSets 3sets/12-15
DB Tri Extension

DAY 2
Pull Ups (1.5 min) 8 6 5 4 3
Incline Bench (1.5 min) 8 6 5 4 3
Shoulder Press (1.5 min) 8 6 5 4 3
Hack Squat (Triple Super Set) 4 sets/12-15 reps
Leg Curls
Calf Press

DAY 3 (Day off)
DAY 4
Muscle Rounds (4*6 10 sec) Coose a weight that you can do normally for ten reps. A muscleround set consists of 6 sets of 4 with a 10 second break between the sets of 4.
Leg Press (4 sets) (1min)
SL Dead Lift (3s) (1:45)
Calf Press (4s) (1:45)
Bench Press (4s) (1min)

DAY 5
Muscle Rounds (4*6 10 sec)
BentOver Rows (4s) (1:00)
CG Bench (3s) (1:45)
Shoulder Press 2s (1:45)
Side laterals 2s (1:45)
Barbell Curls (3s) (1:45)

Days 6-7 OFF

This is basically it. You do this for 8 weeks, change the exercises as you desire (i am just providing the example I am using). At the end of 8 weeks, you can do a 3 week program of your choosing and then take a week off.

 

[Ironfoce]

Is that really all???

There is no change to the workout over that 8 weeks? It's not like OTS' other programs in that they change from overtraining to undertraining every few weeks? What does he say is the reasoning behind the 3 week program at the end of the eight. Should it be of a lower volume? Also could you post the training split chart as in the book w/o any excercises (i.e. instead of squats, legs, etc.). The only reason I ask is because I want to see if there is any specific bodypart recommended like quads-squats or hamstrings- deadlifts? Is there a certain time frame in which he recommends changing the excercises, or just whenever you feel like it? One last thing, can you explain this level stuff "As far as the exercises, I try to use level 7 or 8 NMA (the German will know what I am talking about)" Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[nugg]

some questions

first, thanks for posting the infoo

Can you please explain in a little more detail the "MuscleRounds"

You said 6 sets of 4 and then proceeded to say
3s, 2sts ect.

I also assume that the (1.5 minutes)etc -is rest between sets?

Thanks again bro

 

[nugg]

one last

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[MonStar1023]

Dissapointed...

I was REALLY Dissapointed looking at the basic program... I was expecting something like so incredible just something I had never seen before. Thats a little different with the Muscle Rounds but other then that theres nothing special about that program at all. It looks alright I guess keep posting your results [COLOR=dark blue]The_Eviscerator[/COLOR] I am sure many of us, including myself, are interested to see how it works for you. Good luck with it too bro you seemed jacked as hell about it!

 

[The_Eviscerator]

It really is simple. I was a little disappointed myself, but the work-out is brutal and I definitely feel more jacked after 2 weeks on it. I will know more after a few more weeks, but so far so good.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Re: some questions

first, thanks for posting the infoo

Can you please explain in a little more detail the "MuscleRounds"

You said 6 sets of 4 and then proceeded to say
3s, 2sts ect.

I also assume that the (1.5 minutes)etc -is rest between sets?

Thanks again bro

The minutes is the rest between sets.

The muscleround set is 4 sets of 6 with 10 second breaks. You will do the prescribed number of "muscleround sets" per body part as listed. So you do the 4 reps 10 seconds 4 reps etc... until you reach 6 sets of 4, then you take a minute or 1:45 rest and repeat.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Re: Is that really all???

There is no change to the workout over that 8 weeks? It's not like OTS' other programs in that they change from overtraining to undertraining every few weeks? What does he say is the reasoning behind the 3 week program at the end of the eight.

That is for specialization... For instance, if you think your arms were neglected, then you can hit them hard during this three week period.

Should it be of a lower volume?

Not necessarily, you are pretty free to do whatever you like here.

Is there a certain time frame in which he recommends changing the excercises, or just whenever you feel like it?

I would suggest changing every 2-3 weeks, but that is just my reccommendation.



One last thing, can you explain this level stuff "As far as the exercises, I try to use level 7 or 8 NMA (the German will know what I am talking about)"

Basically, it means that the more your body moves through space, the higher the NMA it is. So Squats are a higher NMA than leg presses... Pull-ups are higher than pull downs.

 

[ckeller14]

Re: Dissapointed...

I was REALLY Dissapointed looking at the basic program... I was expecting something like so incredible just something I had never seen before. Thats a little different with the Muscle Rounds but other then that theres nothing special about that program at all. It looks alright I guess keep posting your results [COLOR=dark blue]The_Eviscerator[/COLOR] I am sure many of us, including myself, are interested to see how it works for you. Good luck with it too bro you seemed jacked as hell about it!

There is no reason to be dissapointed with this program. I've been lifting since my freshman year in high school and i can't remember being sore like this. I did Serious Growth III, the Big Beyond Belief program and this is much more intense than that, for me anyways. The first two days are pretty rough themselves but the muscle rounds are crazy. My lifting partner is walking around like a whipped dog. I am really excited about the program, think it's gonna be a good one.

 

[ckeller14]

Re: Dissapointed...

I was REALLY Dissapointed looking at the basic program... I was expecting something like so incredible just something I had never seen before. Thats a little different with the Muscle Rounds but other then that theres nothing special about that program at all. It looks alright I guess keep posting your results [COLOR=dark blue]The_Eviscerator[/COLOR] I am sure many of us, including myself, are interested to see how it works for you. Good luck with it too bro you seemed jacked as hell about it!

There is no reason to be dissapointed with this program. I've been lifting since my freshman year in high school and i can't remember being sore like this. I did Serious Growth III, the Big Beyond Belief program and this is much more intense than that, for me anyways. The first two days are pretty rough themselves but the muscle rounds are crazy. My lifting partner is walking around like a whipped dog. I am really excited about the program, think it's gonna be a good one.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Ckeller, you said it... It is a simple program, but damn effective! I feel like I got my ass beat after muscle rounds...

Anyway, here is the split:

Day 1
Lower Body Base Training
Thighs (Squats, Leg Press, Hack Squats)

Hamstrings (SL Dead Lift, Leg Curls)

Calves (seated, standing press)

Volume Training Upperbody
Chest and Back 3 compound sets
Shoulders and Abs 4 Compound Sets
Biceps and Triceps 3 compound sets


Day 2
Upper Body Base Training
Upper Back (Chins, Bent Over Rows, Pull Downs)

Chest (Bench, Incline etc..)

Shoulders (Press, Upright Rows)

Lower Body Volume Training

Thighs, Hams and Calves 4 compund sets


Day 3: REST

Day 4 Muscle Rounds

Thighs
Hamstrings
Calves
Chest

Day 5 Muscle Rounds

Back
Triceps
Shoulders
Biceps

Day 6 and 7:REST

 

[nugg]

Thanks Bro



This workout kicked my ass.

I love the Musclerounds

After 2 years of feeling no "doms", finally I feel th epain again


Thanks Again!


P.s

What is the "secret" vascularity trick.

 

[MonStar1023]

ckeller14

There is no reason to be dissapointed with this program. I've been lifting since my freshman year in high school and i can't remember being sore like this. I did Serious Growth III, the Big Beyond Belief program and this is much more intense than that, for me anyways. The first two days are pretty rough themselves but the muscle rounds are crazy. My lifting partner is walking around like a whipped dog. I am really excited about the program, think it's gonna be a good one.

Whatsup ckeller14? Yo man maybe your right the more I check out this program it looks fucking great. I dont know at first I was just like please what crap. But I dont know... What kind of results did you get with Serious Growth? Did it work good or nah or what? What kind of nutrition/supplement regimen did you use while you were on this program? I am finished with Phase 1 today and I wanted to know whether or not to say fuck Serious Growth and start up with Titan Training or stick to Serious Growth through all 18-weeks?

 

[Jeremy21]

Partial Reps with Titan Training

The Titan Training system seems to be on the simplistic side but looks to be extremely effective. I will be starting it this coming monday but substituting heavy, strong-range partials (to develop tendon & ligament strength) instead of full range exercise.

kind regards,
jeremy

 

[MonStar1023]

The_Eviscerator yo I wanted to post my version of the basic program that you posted and wanted to you to tell me if this is basically the way the program is or if I am way off or not?

DAY 1.
Standing Calf 10,8,6,5,4 (1 minute rest between sets)
Seated Calf 10,8,6,5,4 (1 minute rest between sets)

DB Bench Press 3 sets, reps 12-15
(supersetted with)(1 minute rest between supersets)
DB Bent Over Row 3 sets, reps 12-15

Shoulder Fly4 sets, reps 12-15
(supersetted with)(1 minute rest between supersets)
Cable Crunch 4 sets, reps 12-15

What is a 'Shoulder Fly?'

Alt. DB Curl 3 sets, reps 12-15
(supersetted with)(1 minute rest between supersets)
DB Triceps Ext. 3 sets, reps 12-15

DAY 2.
Pull Ups 8,6,5,4,3 (1.5 minutes rest between each set)
Incline Bench 8,6,5,4,3 (1.5 minutes rest between each set)
Shoulder Press 8,6,5,4,3 (1.5 minutes rest between each set)

Standing Calf Raises 4 sets, reps 12-15
(trisetted with)
Seated Calf Raises 4 sets, reps 12-15
(trisetted with)
Leg Press Calf Raises 4 sets, reps 12-15

DAY 3. REST

DAY 4.
Muscle Rounds, choose a weight that you can do normally for ten reps. A muscleround set consists of 6 continuous sets of 4, with a 10 second rest between the sets of 4. In other words, 6 sets of 4 with 10 second rest periods.
Seated Calf Raises (3 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
BentOver Rows (4 muscle rounds)(1 minute rest between each muscle round)
Incline Press (4 muscle rounds)(1 minute rest between each muscle round)

DAY 5.
Muscle Rounds
Shoulder Press (2 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
Side laterals (2 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
Barbell Curls (3 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
Lying EZ-Bar Ext. (3 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)

Days 6-7. REST

 

[ckeller14]

Re: ckeller14

Whatsup ckeller14? Yo man maybe your right the more I check out this program it looks fucking great. I dont know at first I was just like please what crap. But I dont know... What kind of results did you get with Serious Growth? Did it work good or nah or what? What kind of nutrition/supplement regimen did you use while you were on this program? I am finished with Phase 1 today and I wanted to know whether or not to say fuck Serious Growth and start up with Titan Training or stick to Serious Growth through all 18-weeks?

i have only been on the titan training for a week. I can't tell what it's gonna do long term but if it continues the way it is going i think it's gonna work really well. I'd give serious growth it's chance if i were you, i'd say for the first ramp and super growth phase that follows it atleast. that way you can get sort of an idea what kind of gains you might experience on it. On that note however, all the ramps and supergrowth phases that follow are different so ya might want do the whole program. That is what i'd do. That way, as we get further along into titan training, those of us on it can give further insite on how well the program actually works, and if it sounds better than what you are experiencing on serious growth, then you could switch. When i was on ithe serious growth, Big Beyond Belief, i gained 6-8 lbs. taking no suppliments. Didn't really either change my diet either. I really like the serious growth but when i heard about this new program, i had to give it a shot. I was just getting ready to start it again when i got titan training.

 

[Ironfoce]

Re: Re: some questions

The minutes is the rest between sets.

The muscleround set is 4 sets of 6 with 10 second breaks. You will do the prescribed number of "muscleround sets" per body part as listed. So you do the 4 reps 10 seconds 4 reps etc... until you reach 6 sets of 4, then you take a minute or 1:45 rest and repeat.

First thanks for the reply before. I'm still a little confused on these muscle rounds though. Is it 6 set of 4 or 4 sets of six? You said it differently on the earlier post. Tell me if I'm right in what I think you are saying: you do 4 sets for 6 reps with a ten second rest in between each set. This is then conseidered one SET. Then you repeat this for 6 total SETS with a minute or so in between. In other words one SET consists of 24 reps with 10 seconds of rest between every 6 reps, correct? I think this is what you are saying, is this right?

Thanks again for all the info. I just wanted to clarify this a bit though, to make sure I'm in complete understanding.

 

[lynaghgrew]

there nothing new under the sun.

good old fashioned effort, food, sleep and 'supplimentation' most everything else is bullshit

 

[The_Eviscerator]

there nothing new under the sun.

good old fashioned effort, food, sleep and 'supplimentation' most everything else is bullshit

You are right, but there are nice variations of the same theme. Open your mind and I am sure you will make more progress.

As for the muclerounds... They are 6 sets of 4 with 10 seconds break... and then a minute or 1:45 break between them. Do the prescribed 4 or 3 sets.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

The_Eviscerator yo I wanted to post my version of the basic program that you posted and wanted to you to tell me if this is basically the way the program is or if I am way off or not?

DAY 1.

You need a quad and hamstring exercise here... get rid of one of the calf movements.
Standing Calf 10,8,6,5,4 (1 minute rest between sets)
Seated Calf 10,8,6,5,4 (1 minute rest between sets)

DB Bench Press 3 sets, reps 12-15
(supersetted with)(1 minute rest between supersets)
DB Bent Over Row 3 sets, reps 12-15

Shoulder Fly is just a side lateral, sorry for the confusion.
Shoulder Fly4 sets, reps 12-15
(supersetted with)(1 minute rest between supersets)
Cable Crunch 4 sets, reps 12-15

What is a 'Shoulder Fly?'

Alt. DB Curl 3 sets, reps 12-15
(supersetted with)(1 minute rest between supersets)
DB Triceps Ext. 3 sets, reps 12-15

DAY 2.
Pull Ups 8,6,5,4,3 (1.5 minutes rest between each set)
Incline Bench 8,6,5,4,3 (1.5 minutes rest between each set)
Shoulder Press 8,6,5,4,3 (1.5 minutes rest between each set)

Standing Calf Raises 4 sets, reps 12-15
(trisetted with)
Seated Calf Raises 4 sets, reps 12-15
(trisetted with)
Leg Press Calf Raises 4 sets, reps 12-15

DAY 3. REST

DAY 4.
Muscle Rounds, choose a weight that you can do normally for ten reps. A muscleround set consists of 6 continuous sets of 4, with a 10 second rest between the sets of 4. In other words, 6 sets of 4 with 10 second rest periods.

You need more quad movements.
Seated Calf Raises (3 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
BentOver Rows (4 muscle rounds)(1 minute rest between each muscle round)
Incline Press (4 muscle rounds)(1 minute rest between each muscle round)

DAY 5.
Muscle Rounds
Shoulder Press (2 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
Side laterals (2 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
Barbell Curls (3 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)
Lying EZ-Bar Ext. (3 muscle rounds)(1:45 minutes rest between each muscle round)

Days 6-7. REST

Look at the splits that I posted to get a better picture.

 

[Jeremy21]

NMA 6 & 7

Is it best to use all level 6 & 7 movements during the entire Titan Training cycle? The video warned against it but as long as someone doesn't "burn out" wouldn't it be best to use the following exercises for both the base, volume & muscle rounds:

Chest: Bench Press or Dips
Back: Deadlifts
Upper Back: Bent Over Rows or chins
Thighs: Squats
Hamstrings: Stiff legged Deadlifts
Calves: Calf Raises
Shoulders: Military Presses
Triceps: Close Grip Bench Press
Biceps: Barbell Curls

 

[Ironfoce]

Thanks!!!

I understand the muscle rounds now.
Keep us posted on your progress. I'd be interested to hear how it goes for you. Also, if you could, keep let us know when and to what you change the excercises to. That way we can see how that worked as well.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Well just to let you know I was hovering at 216 when I started and after two weeks I am 221... not sure if it is from the routine or the fact that I upped my protein a bit. I am sure it is a little of both. I will keep you posted.

 

[The German]

Titan Video

Which exercises are shown in the video as an example for the routine?
I have bougth the program from amazon an it´s without the video.

Is it better to take lower NMA exercises on the volume parts of the routine?

Maybe somebody can post the routine from in the video.

 

[Jeremy21]

There was no routine in the video

It was basically just a rehash of what was said in the booklet with a few added pointers.

kind regards,
jeremy

 

[Ironfoce]

Well just to let you know I was hovering at 216 when I started and after two weeks I am 221... not sure if it is from the routine or the fact that I upped my protein a bit. I am sure it is a little of both. I will keep you posted.

That's not a bad gain. What was your protein intake before and what is it now? Did you change anything else, like add any other extra calories besides those coming from protein?

I think I'll give this workout a try in a month or so.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I was probably around 270 grams a day. I have been consistent at around 360 for the last two weeks. As far as my caloric intake... The only thing I try to stick to is to eat eat two protein high fat meals (usually Udo's and Whey) and 4 protein carb meals. I try not to mix fat and carbs together.

I think I am going to try to eat 7-8 meals a day and keep them small. Eating 60 grams of protein a meal is tough at times. if you know what I mean.

 

[Ironfoce]

Just out of curiosity, did you get the idea of not mixing carbs and fats together at all from Berardi's massive eating in t-mag?

I really can't wait to try out the routine though. It sounds like it will work well. I won't be doing it for another month or so. So I definitely want to be kept posted on your results.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

As a matter of fact it was Berardi's artice that turned me on to that idea and I swear within two weeks I looked harder and my muscles felt fuller. Give it a shot, it is a great way to eat.

 

[Ironfoce]

Now do you do the whole Massive Eating protocol, which seems like a major PITA? Or do you just try not to mix carbs and fats? I have started to, and was thinking of really trying to do it almost all the time, not take carbs with fat. On weekends that is right now, since I'm on the Anabolic Diet. I'm coming off in about a week and a half and then I'm going to do GVT2K followed by Titan Training. So I'll be eating kind of crappy to gain weight. Hopefully I won't get fat because I plan on doing a Finasol cycle during this time. I will follow some of the Massive Eating guidelines when trying to bulk but I'm more concerned with doing so after my cycle.

 

[PsychoSkitz]

What kind of weight are you supposed to use ?

Start at 60% max and go up, go down, etc ??

Sorry if someone posted but I missed it